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PaleHoseRon
07-07-2004, 10:02 AM
Last night while entertaining clients at the Brewers/Cubs game I had a couple of interesting observations of Cub "fans".

First of all Miller Park basically turned into the Urinal "Way North". It was embarrassing as a Brewer/Sox fan to have such an overwhelmingly out of town invasion into the park. The same thing happens when the Twins come to town. Anyway, the Brew Crew jumped out to an early lead against "The Messiah" which quieted the crowd pretty quickly. However, after the Cubs scored a couple of runs the chants of "Lets go Cubs" began to reign. It was met by a much quieter "Lets go Brewers" chant which only made the situation become more hostile. It was then that a few rows down I spotted a Cub "fan" begin to yell at a Brewer fan. The wife/girlfriend tried to stand between the Cub guy and her man when the Cub "fan" pushed the woman aside to throw his beer at the Brewer fan and follow that with a punch which squarely landed on the woman's head. This is when security finally arrived which quickly broke things up and began to escort this guy out. It didn't end there, however. On his way out the Cub "fan" was getting the typical razzing from the crowd around him, saying good-bye, etc. when the Cub "fan" broke away from the clutch of the security guards to take another swing at a different Brewer fan. This guy was obviously drunk and probably had been road tripping on his way up to the game, but this all happened in the THIRD inning! And no, we were not in the bleachers. I was in a luxury suite and this guy was sitting in the club section immediately below me. Of course everyone in the box with me immediately heard me say something to the effect of "typical Cub "fan"", and I think 90% of them were probably were there either for the Cubs, or not a baseball fan, which is probably one in the same.:D:

On a lighter note, there are two quick observations that made me laugh out loud. First, I was sitting on the right field side of the field behind the dugout, obviously in foul territory. Directly below me in the club seats there was a Cub "fan" who held up a sign every time Shammy came to the plate. The sign said..."Hit it to me Sammy".

Finally, the last time Shammy came to the plate he hit a ball to the warning track which was caught by Ben Grieve. As soon as the ball was hit, the Cub "fans" around me were giving high fives and cheering for a good minute before the realized that the ball was caught. They saw the ball carrying and immediately thought it was a home run. That was priceless.

All in all, it was pretty entertaining. Best of all, the Crew won 4-2.

Jerko
07-07-2004, 10:17 AM
My question is, WHERE DO ALL THESE MORONS COME FROM!?!?! It's not like they have this long history of winning. I can see the tools that don't have a mind of their own flocking to the pisspot on Clark and Addison because "they're supposed to", but what excuse do they have to travel around making every city in which they play unbearable for those 3-4 days? Must be nice to have so much money and not work.

cheeses_h_rice
07-07-2004, 10:43 AM
My question is, WHERE DO ALL THESE MORONS COME FROM!?!?! It's not like they have this long history of winning. I can see the tools that don't have a mind of their own flocking to the pisspot on Clark and Addison because "they're supposed to", but what excuse do they have to travel around making every city in which they play unbearable for those 3-4 days? Must be nice to have so much money and not work.
See also: fans, New York Yankees, 1996-present
fans, Los Angeles Lakers, 2001-present
fans, bandwagon
fans, fairweather
fans, jockriders

Jerko
07-07-2004, 11:27 AM
See also: fans, New York Yankees, 1996-present
fans, Los Angeles Lakers, 2001-present
fans, bandwagon
fans, fairweather
fans, jockriders
That's the part I don't understand. Those teams (Yankees, Lakers) all WIN!! Bandwagon and fairweather fans usually jump on the bandwagon of TEAMS THAT WIN!!! Why the fascination with THESE losers? I don't see Clipper or Warrior fans (teams that perpetually suck) invading every arena in the NBA proclaiming how much better they are than the rest of the world after sucking for decades like these morons do.

chuckn98229
07-07-2004, 12:08 PM
That's the part I don't understand. Those teams (Yankees, Lakers) all WIN!! Bandwagon and fairweather fans usually jump on the bandwagon of TEAMS THAT WIN!!! Why the fascination with THESE losers? I don't see Clipper or Warrior fans (teams that perpetually suck) invading every arena in the NBA proclaiming how much better they are than the rest of the world after sucking for decades like these morons do.
It's obvious that the cubfan is a different breed of vermin - unlike any other.

Jerko
07-07-2004, 12:13 PM
It's obvious that the cubfan is a different breed of vermin - unlike any other.
Sad, just sad.

PaleHoseRon
07-07-2004, 12:19 PM
That's the part I don't understand. Those teams (Yankees, Lakers) all WIN!! Bandwagon and fairweather fans usually jump on the bandwagon of TEAMS THAT WIN!!! Why the fascination with THESE losers? I don't see Clipper or Warrior fans (teams that perpetually suck) invading every arena in the NBA proclaiming how much better they are than the rest of the world after sucking for decades like these morons do.
After the Brewers sweep the Cubs today they are only one game behind them in the standings!

Kogs35
07-07-2004, 12:30 PM
even yankee and redsox fans hate the cub fans. cub fans think that the redsox fans want them to get to the world series with them. while the red sox fans think other wise.

Uncle_Patrick
07-07-2004, 12:34 PM
It's obvious that the cubfan is a different breed of vermin - unlike any other.
I was in Wisconsin this weekend, talking to some Brewers fans about the upcoming Brewers/Cubs series. The Brewers fans (at least the ones I talked to) absolutely HATE when the Cubs come to town because of all the yokels that come up to see the Cubbies play. A lot of them refuse to go to the games because they can't stand the Cubs fans.

Baby Fisk
07-07-2004, 12:44 PM
My question is, WHERE DO ALL THESE MORONS COME FROM!?!?! It's not like they have this long history of winning. I can see the tools that don't have a mind of their own flocking to the pisspot on Clark and Addison because "they're supposed to", but what excuse do they have to travel around making every city in which they play unbearable for those 3-4 days? Must be nice to have so much money and not work.Before Sunday night's ESPN broadcast of the Sox-Cubs game, they did a quickie piece comparing the two clubs. They had clips of fans talking about why they supported their respective team. The comments from Cub fans said it all:

Lady Cub fan: "It's about Wrigley Field, it's about the ivy."
Guy Cub fan: "It's hip to be a Cubs fan."

In that case:

:thankgod

These people are the worst sort of bandwagoners. Cubs ownership has transformed its product into just one element of a perpetial keg party. To these folks it's all about partying, not baseball. I'd love to travel from park to park getting tanked and making a scene. Too bad I'm a grown up.

samram
07-07-2004, 02:14 PM
Before Sunday night's ESPN broadcast of the Sox-Cubs game, they did a quickie piece comparing the two clubs. They had clips of fans talking about why they supported their respective team. The comments from Cub fans said it all:

Lady Cub fan: "It's about Wrigley Field, it's about the ivy."
Guy Cub fan: "It's hip to be a Cubs fan."

In that case:

:thankgod

These people are the worst sort of bandwagoners. Cubs ownership has transformed its product into just one element of a perpetial keg party. To these folks it's all about partying, not baseball. I'd love to travel from park to park getting tanked and making a scene. Too bad I'm a grown up.It's all true. When I was in Chicago a couple of weeks ago, I was talking to a buddy of mine who is a casual Cubs fan (but not annoying about it because he admits his baseball knowledge is not great and doesn't go to games just to drink, etc), and he said that the Tribune Co. made a bad business decision this year to actually spend on the team. Why have a good, expensive product when a bad, cheap one makes you just as much money? Hopefully, the Trib will see the error of its ways and go back to throwing nine guys on the field without regard to talent level starting next year.

Baby Fisk
07-07-2004, 02:48 PM
It's all true. When I was in Chicago a couple of weeks ago, I was talking to a buddy of mine who is a casual Cubs fan (but not annoying about it because he admits his baseball knowledge is not great and doesn't go to games just to drink, etc), and he said that the Tribune Co. made a bad business decision this year to actually spend on the team. Why have a good, expensive product when a bad, cheap one makes you just as much money? Hopefully, the Trib will see the error of its ways and go back to throwing nine guys on the field without regard to talent level starting next year.No kidding. All the Cubune needs to do is throw some money at this team every 5 years or so to make them a "contender" for one year, then sell off the money players and revel in the profits while the goodwill of the ignorant bandwagoners lingers for years. Sox fans could never be bought off so easily. Um...could we? :unsure:

Viva Magglio
07-07-2004, 07:45 PM
My question is, WHERE DO ALL THESE MORONS COME FROM!?!?! It's not like they have this long history of winning. I can see the tools that don't have a mind of their own flocking to the pisspot on Clark and Addison because "they're supposed to", but what excuse do they have to travel around making every city in which they play unbearable for those 3-4 days? Must be nice to have so much money and not work.
Cub fans have become baseball's answer to Greatful Dead fans, following the Cubs where they go. We saw how many of them infested USCF when they came here. The first night they were in St. Louis, Cardinal announcer Mike Shannon noted on KMOX that he has never seen so many Cub fans at Busch Stadium. Anywhere the Cubs go, their fans invade the visiting ballpark and crap the place.

LongLiveFisk
07-07-2004, 09:56 PM
That's the part I don't understand. Those teams (Yankees, Lakers) all WIN!! Bandwagon and fairweather fans usually jump on the bandwagon of TEAMS THAT WIN!!! Why the fascination with THESE losers? I don't see Clipper or Warrior fans (teams that perpetually suck) invading every arena in the NBA proclaiming how much better they are than the rest of the world after sucking for decades like these morons do.
This is what I've wondered forever. I think Cubbie-obsession is truly the 9th Wonder of the World. Even the world's most brilliant psychiatrists are clueless to explain this one.

hsnterprize
07-08-2004, 08:33 AM
Before Sunday night's ESPN broadcast of the Sox-Cubs game, they did a quickie piece comparing the two clubs. They had clips of fans talking about why they supported their respective team. The comments from Cub fans said it all:

Lady Cub fan: "It's about Wrigley Field, it's about the ivy."
Guy Cub fan: "It's hip to be a Cubs fan."

In that case:

:thankgod

These people are the worst sort of bandwagoners. Cubs ownership has transformed its product into just one element of a perpetial keg party. To these folks it's all about partying, not baseball. I'd love to travel from park to park getting tanked and making a scene. Too bad I'm a grown up. I talked to a couple of Cubs fans while I was covering the Cubs/Sox at the Cell a couple of weekends ago. One guy was actually a "baseball fan who happens to be a Cub fan" according to his dad, and his younger brother all in love with Wrigley Field. I didn't say this then, but I should've...because when this kid was going on and on about loving Wrigley, I should've said, "You're not a Cubs fan, you're a Wrigley Field fan." because as we all know (even Cubs President and CEO Andy MacPhail admitted this) that if it weren't for Wrigley Field, many people wouldn't be attending Cubs games since Wrigley is such a hot tourist attraction.

The national bandwagon, plus all the negative news about the Cell, legit or not, is also making it more of the "in-thing" to do in going to the alleged "shrine". All I have to say is when the Sox go into the playoffs and the Cubs don't people will flock to the Cell and totally forget about all the crap they've heard about how bad the place is. Folks like us can then ask them, "Why are you here? I thought you didn't want to come here because this place isn't Wrigley Field?"

BigEdWalsh
07-08-2004, 09:53 AM
OK, I unfortunately live in Wisconsin these days and the vast majority of my co-workers are Brewer fans. Most of them attended the Brewer/Cub games. All I've heard the last couple of days is how startled they were at how many Cub fans were at those games. Lemme tell ya, they hate Cub fans almost as much as we do. Well, probably not even close to as much as us, but they hate 'em. And that's cool.

TornLabrum
07-08-2004, 11:01 AM
At last night's game three people, led by a female Cubs fan, complete with cap and jersey, poached in the seats directly in front of me starting in the seventh inning. While two male companions remained quiet, she was actively rooting against the Sox. After one of the Angels homers, she was up on her feet cheering when someone a few rows behind me shouted, "Sit down, idiot!"

Now what I would like to know is why would anybody go to the other team's ball park when your team is playing, dress in your Cubs gear, and cheer? Attention? Low self-esteem? Stupidity?

Jerko
07-08-2004, 11:07 AM
At last night's game three people, led by a female Cubs fan, complete with cap and jersey, poached in the seats directly in front of me starting in the seventh inning. While two male companions remained quiet, she was actively rooting against the Sox. After one of the Angels homers, she was up on her feet cheering when someone a few rows behind me shouted, "Sit down, idiot!"

Now what I would like to know is why would anybody go to the other team's ball park when your team is playing, dress in your Cubs gear, and cheer? Attention? Low self-esteem? Stupidity?
The girl went for attention, definitely. The 2 dorks with her went to "protect" or "impress" the little darling. Gee, I'd miss a Sox game on TV to go to wrigley and cheer against the Cubs. Did she even notice her team lost too and are now 6 games out AND behind in the wild card race for the first time in a while? I guess not.

BigEdWalsh
07-08-2004, 11:11 AM
At last night's game three people, led by a female Cubs fan, complete with cap and jersey, poached in the seats directly in front of me starting in the seventh inning. While two male companions remained quiet, she was actively rooting against the Sox. After one of the Angels homers, she was up on her feet cheering when someone a few rows behind me shouted, "Sit down, idiot!"

Now what I would like to know is why would anybody go to the other team's ball park when your team is playing, dress in your Cubs gear, and cheer? Attention? Low self-esteem? Stupidity?
I was at Tuesdays game with my kid and my son saw a guy in a Cubs shirt. He asked me, "Dad, why is that guy even here?". I didn't know what to say other than, "He's a Cub fan. He's an idiot."

A guy at work, a Brewer fan went to Tuesdays Cub-Brewer game. He was telling me about this jerk who kept going, "Woo! Woo! Woo!". Gee, do ya think? :woo-woo

TornLabrum
07-08-2004, 11:47 AM
The girl went for attention, definitely. The 2 dorks with her went to "protect" or "impress" the little darling. Gee, I'd miss a Sox game on TV to go to wrigley and cheer against the Cubs. Did she even notice her team lost too and are now 6 games out AND behind in the wild card race for the first time in a while? I guess not.
Yes, she did, at least the first part....about the top of the ninth she said, "The only thing not making this a perfect day is that the Cubbies are losing." Of course we all know that Sox fans care more about the Cubs than Cubs fans care about the Sox.

Baby Fisk
07-08-2004, 12:12 PM
I was at Tuesdays game with my kid and my son saw a guy in a Cubs shirt. He asked me, "Dad, why is that guy even here?". I didn't know what to say other than, "He's a Cub fan. He's an idiot."

A guy at work, a Brewer fan went to Tuesdays Cub-Brewer game. He was telling me about this jerk who kept going, "Woo! Woo! Woo!". Gee, do ya think? :woo-woo
Yep, it was him. They showed him on TV, parked a few rows behind home plate, going Woo Woo endlessly. Actually, it's quite an act of physical endurance to keep yelling Woo for 10 minutes straight. Is this guy an asylum runaway or something? People in the vicinity were pretty pissed off, looking like they wanted to perform acts of violence on him. So much for loveable. People are starting to genuinely hate the Cubs and their annoying fans.

Uncle_Patrick
07-08-2004, 12:59 PM
At last night's game three people, led by a female Cubs fan, complete with cap and jersey, poached in the seats directly in front of me starting in the seventh inning. While two male companions remained quiet, she was actively rooting against the Sox. After one of the Angels homers, she was up on her feet cheering when someone a few rows behind me shouted, "Sit down, idiot!"

Now what I would like to know is why would anybody go to the other team's ball park when your team is playing, dress in your Cubs gear, and cheer? Attention? Low self-esteem? Stupidity?
Isn't "stupidity" and "Cubs Fan" redundant? I've notice a lot more Cubs fans at games this year with their "Sox Suck" shirts or their Sosa jerseys and they are making big scenes when the Sox are on the downside of a play. It seems like Cubs fans are getting a little bolder this year. I'm sure there are Sox fans who do the same thing at the Urinal. It just seems like you are looking for trouble doing that.

Also, to pay for a ticket, plus parking, plus food and drink to watch a game where you hate one team and probably have no interest in the other (I say this since these people are out there supporting a team that's not on the playing field) seems rather stupid.

TornLabrum
07-08-2004, 01:24 PM
Isn't "stupidity" and "Cubs Fan" redundant? I've notice a lot more Cubs fans at games this year with their "Sox Suck" shirts or their Sosa jerseys and they are making big scenes when the Sox are on the downside of a play. It seems like Cubs fans are getting a little bolder this year. I'm sure there are Sox fans who do the same thing at the Urinal. It just seems like you are looking for trouble doing that.

Also, to pay for a ticket, plus parking, plus food and drink to watch a game where you hate one team and probably have no interest in the other (I say this since these people are out there supporting a team that's not on the playing field) seems rather stupid.
So that could be the answer! Stupidity + too much disposable income = Cubs fans at Sox games

Palehose13
07-08-2004, 01:34 PM
I moved here (Milwaukee) in 1998, the same year the Brewers switched to the NL. A good friend of mine is a die-hard Brewer fan (yes, they do exist) and when we met and she found out I was a Sox fan, she had a few words for me because of the way Sox fans would come to County Stadium. She was perplexed as to why I hated the cub because according to her, "They're harmless. They're the lovable losers."

Fast-forward a year or two and she was saying to me, "Cub fans are such ***holes. Now I know what you meant! I want the Sox fans back!" And this is before the cubs were good...I can't type what she says about them now. :redneck

steff
07-08-2004, 01:55 PM
We went last night.. thankfully sitting in a suite. But the morons were out in full force. After the game we were entertained by an idiot blowing off a roman candle... while holding it in his hand. One thing that worries me about that place.. no cops whatsoever in the parking lots. It's a free for all up there. Not good.

Uncle_Patrick
07-08-2004, 02:02 PM
We went last night.. thankfully sitting in a suite. But the morons were out in full force. After the game we were entertained by an idiot blowing off a roman candle... while holding it in his hand. One thing that worries me about that place.. no cops whatsoever in the parking lots. It's a free for all up there. Not good.
There are no cops in that parking lot? That's amazing considering the amount of tailgating and drinking going on out there. I've only been there once and I don't remember anything about the security, but I do remember that there were tons of tailgaters there.

Palehose13
07-08-2004, 04:06 PM
There are cops in the Sox lots? Only cops I have seen (that I can recall) are the ones directing traffic and letting people cross the street.

steff
07-08-2004, 04:44 PM
There are cops in the Sox lots? Only cops I have seen (that I can recall) are the ones directing traffic and letting people cross the street.

Sox security in the lots are off duty cops.

Palehose13
07-08-2004, 04:49 PM
Sox security in the lots are off duty cops.

No, I know that (my dad is retired CPD), but I don't ever remember them circulating the lots. I could be mistaken cause I don't really hang out in the lot excpet to walk to my car.

C-Dawg
07-08-2004, 08:47 PM
But what excuse do they have to travel around making every city in which they play unbearable for those 3-4 days? Must be nice to have so much money and not work.

Yeah you can say that again. I work hard for a living and am happy when I can go to 2 or 3 games at the Cell a month, let alone the games in other cities. Last year I caught the Sox at Detroit, and in 2002 I followed them to KC, but that's about all I can afford per year (although I hope to go to Detroit this year too). I just don't have the funds or the free time to follow them all over like the Cub fans do.

I think many of these travelling Cub fans who go to Milwaukee, St. Louis, etc, are just college kids using their parents credit cards to buy tickets, gas, lodging, beer, etc. No one else has that kind of free time and spending money on their hands. Either that, or I'm in the wrong line of work.

Palehose13
07-08-2004, 08:54 PM
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I think many of these travelling Cub fans who go to Milwaukee, St. Louis, etc, are just college kids using their parents credit cards to buy tickets, gas, lodging, beer, etc. No one else has that kind of free time and spending money on their hands. Either that, or I'm in the wrong line of work.

I mostly saw families and couples in their late 20's and thirties. Not as many college kids as I would have expected, and I figure that they (families and such) come to Milwaukee because:
1. Can't get tickets for wrigley.
2. Milwaukee isn't far (especially from the north side).
3. Families don't have to deal with the "Wrigleyville environment" around the ball park.

C-Dawg
07-08-2004, 08:56 PM
Now what I would like to know is why would anybody go to the other team's ball park when your team is playing, dress in your Cubs gear, and cheer? Attention? Low self-esteem? Stupidity?

I went to a game back on April 25, and there were 3 Cub fans in my section, all wearing their Woods or Prior jerseys, all cheering VERY loudly for the D-Rays and booing for the Sox throughout the whole game. This was the game where the Sox came from behind in the bottom of the 9th, scoring 4 or 5 runs to tie the game, and then Uribe drew a walk with the bases loaded to win the game. These morons were suddenly quiet! (actually I think they snuck out while the Sox were mounting their rally)

The Cubs were also at home the same weekend; I guess these guys couldn't get tickets, and thought it would be fun to come down to our park and stir up trouble.

C-Dawg
07-08-2004, 08:59 PM
I mostly saw families and couples in their late 20's and thirties. Not as many college kids as I would have expected, and I figure that they (families and such) come to Milwaukee because:
1. Can't get tickets for wrigley.
2. Milwaukee isn't far (especially from the north side).
3. Families don't have to deal with the "Wrigleyville environment" around the ball park.

I actually find this encouraging. Baseball is a family game, and the Wrigley bleacher-party atmosphere probably scares families away. Miller Park would probably be my choice too, especially if I lived up that way.

WhiteSox = Life
07-08-2004, 11:56 PM
This is what I've wondered forever. I think Cubbie-obsession is truly the 9th Wonder of the World. Even the world's most brilliant psychiatrists are clueless to explain this one.
The eighth being Gomer Pyle's heavenly singing voice!