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CaptUSN
07-04-2004, 10:59 AM
A paper in Trenton, New Jersey is reporting the BOSOX are thinking about moving Nomar and a trade for Mags is appealing to them. Also noted that papers on the west coast and Minnesota are reporting that the Sox are looking to get Jason Kendall from the Priates to be the #1 catcher...

gosox41
07-04-2004, 11:06 AM
A paper in Trenton, New Jersey is reporting the BOSOX are thinking about moving Nomar and a trade for Mags is appealing to them. Also noted that papers on the west coast and Minnesota are reporting that the Sox are looking to get Jason Kendall from the Priates to be the #1 catcher...
SInce Nomar doesn't pitch this would be stupid unless 1. it's some how made a 3 team deal or 2. Derke Lowe is thrown in on the deal (Boston isn't moving Pedro or Schilling).


Jose has a .920 OPS. The Sox don't need a SS. They need a pitcher. And after they get one of those, they need another pitcher.


Bob

eurotrash35
07-04-2004, 11:20 AM
How about we set up a 3-way trade that would get us Beltran after the Astros fall out of the race?

soxtalker
07-04-2004, 11:41 AM
Well, as KW said (IIRC), there are lots of conversations going on among the GM's, so it is hard to tell how close any of these rumors are to being realized. I would assume that anything with Nomar would be part of a multi-team trade, since Valentin has been playing rather well lately.

OEO Magglio
07-04-2004, 11:47 AM
No to nomar. If the white sox want to trade with the bosox, I'd hope to go after derek lowe, nixon, and williamson. If the bosox were going after maggs you'd think they'd have to move trot. I'd love to get jason kendall but the pirates would have to eat a chunk of his salary.

Kogs35
07-04-2004, 11:52 AM
No to nomar. If the white sox want to trade with the bosox, I'd hope to go after derek lowe, nixon, and williamson. If the bosox were going after maggs you'd think they'd have to move trot. I'd love to get jason kendall but the pirates would have to eat a chunk of his salary.
derek lowe is terrible this season i wouldnt want him. i do have a feeling that the pirates would eat some of jason kendall's salary.

JB98
07-04-2004, 12:22 PM
derek lowe is terrible this season i wouldnt want him. i do have a feeling that the pirates would eat some of jason kendall's salary.
Garciaparra is an oft-injured sissy who is overrated by the East Coast media. Valentin may not have as much talent, but he's a gamer and a clutch performer. I'm glad the Ordonez-for-Garciaparra thing never happened. Lowe has lost it all at once this year. I don't see any trade with Boston that will make sense from a White Sox perspective.

As for Kendall, he has never impressed me defensively. I know he can hit, but we don't need offense from the catcher position. We need someone who can call a game and throw runners out. We need to see whether Burke or Davis can do the job. Neither has played enough yet for me to have a strong opinion. We have until July 31 to make a move. I'd wait and see how the next few weeks play out before making a decision about the catcher's spot.

viagracat
07-04-2004, 12:29 PM
Sounds like Maggs has had it with the Sox and is gone at the end of the season via free agency. Not sure why that's so, but if that is the case, you have to move him now in order to get somebody in return, because if he leaves as a FA, you get NOTHING in return. I think Garciaparra might like a change of scenery too. This deal might work.

tweek57
07-04-2004, 12:34 PM
KW would never trade for a guy like nomar he's not a character guy. He was sitting on the bench during the yankee game when everone else was on the railing. Ozzie wouldn't want nomar on his team they would never get along

Kendall's not bad though, I like him he's relatively young, pretty good defensively, fast and is a good contact high BA hitter. We wouldn't have to give up much and pitt would pick up most of the contract just to be rid of him.

Kogs35
07-04-2004, 12:39 PM
Sounds like Maggs has had it with the Sox and is gone at the end of the season via free agency. Not sure why that's so, but if that is the case, you have to move him now in order to get somebody in return, because if he leaves as a FA, you get NOTHING in return. I think Garciaparra might like a change of scenery too. This deal might work.
i dont think maggs has had it with the sox. agents do the talking and half the time they screw up. boras screwed sheffield, and now boras is in a leagal battle with sheffield for the money boras wants from him. i know maggs agent isnt boras but this is a prime example of how agents screw up. half the time when players sign big contracts a certain amount goes to the agent and the player actually looses money on the deal

viagracat
07-04-2004, 01:23 PM
i dont think maggs has had it with the sox. agents do the talking and half the time they screw up. boras screwed sheffield, and now boras is in a leagal battle with sheffield for the money boras wants from him. i know maggs agent isnt boras but this is a prime example of how agents screw up. half the time when players sign big contracts a certain amount goes to the agent and the player actually looses money on the deal
I hope you're right, because I'd take Maggs over Garciaparra or anyone else available out there right now. I'm just saying it's a shame if he's going to walk, and it's better to get someone in place of him if that's the case.

WSox8404
07-04-2004, 02:02 PM
No to Nomar, yes to Kendall.

JB98
07-04-2004, 03:55 PM
Sounds like Maggs has had it with the Sox and is gone at the end of the season via free agency. Not sure why that's so, but if that is the case, you have to move him now in order to get somebody in return, because if he leaves as a FA, you get NOTHING in return. I think Garciaparra might like a change of scenery too. This deal might work.
Disagree here. We're worried about 2004 right now, and if this is going to be our year, Maggs has to be a part of it, IMO.

Garciaparra = Selfish clubhouse cancer
Valentin = Team leader, clutch player

I don't want a new shortstop. I want our rightfielder back, so we can platoon Rowand and Perez in CF and make our bench stronger.

HomerCoach
07-04-2004, 04:03 PM
Where does the "Normar is selfish and a clubhouse cancer" stuff come from?
Kendall...yes, ASAP.