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the_valenstache
07-01-2004, 07:50 PM
On BBTN, Gammons - with his ear ever to the street - says he heard a rumor coming out of Chicago that the Cubs would trade Matt Clement to Boston for Nomar Garciaparra.

Probably a load of BS, but does it seem like a fair trade?





Does anybody care?

HomeFish
07-01-2004, 08:05 PM
Oh my ghawd!!!

samram
07-01-2004, 08:10 PM
On BBTN, Gammons - with his ear ever to the street - says he heard a rumor coming out of Chicago that the Cubs would trade Matt Clement to Boston for Nomar Garciaparra.

Probably a load of BS, but does it seem like a fair trade?





Does anybody care?
Down here, when the sports talk shows took a minute away from talking about frickin' NASCAR, they had a guy from Boston on who said the Red Sox were quietly, but proactively, shopping Nomar. So consider that for whatever you feel it's worth. When I was trying to think of places he could end up, the Cubs didn't enter my mind, but I guess it would make sense, although I think the Cubs would have to add something to that deal.

SoxxoS
07-01-2004, 08:34 PM
Down here, when the sports talk shows took a minute away from talking about frickin' NASCAR, they had a guy from Boston on who said the Red Sox were quietly, but proactively, shopping Nomar. So consider that for whatever you feel it's worth. When I was trying to think of places he could end up, the Cubs didn't enter my mind, but I guess it would make sense, although I think the Cubs would have to add something to that deal.
That deal would be an absolute DISASTER for the Flubs. Look at Nomar's splits away from Fenway...therein lies your answer. Clement has arguably been their #2 guy for the past 2 seasons. They would have to be brain damaged to make that trade.

I don't want to face Matt Clement possibly in the playoffs, either.

SomebodyToldMe
07-01-2004, 08:46 PM
no...nomar must not go to those northside punks...

he belongs on the southside, IMO.

i wouldn't mind seeing him in a sox jersey.

doublem23
07-01-2004, 08:48 PM
i wouldn't mind seeing him in a sox jersey.
Bleh... I would. The only benefit to getting a Nomar Garciaparra is adding a bonafide star attraction on your roster. That and the 3 or 6 games a year we play at Fenway.

Flight #24
07-01-2004, 09:04 PM
FWIW - isn't the word on Nomar that he's REALLY interested in heading to the WC? So even if the Chubs get him, it would only be a rental. But I guess giving up Clement wouldn't really hurt them since he's an FA at the end of the year anyway.

But me no like face him in playoffs. And no like Cubs adding to their team.

HomeFish
07-01-2004, 09:08 PM
Could you imagine the media orgy that would happen with that?

samram
07-01-2004, 09:36 PM
FWIW - isn't the word on Nomar that he's REALLY interested in heading to the WC? So even if the Chubs get him, it would only be a rental.
That's what I thought. I remember when he was rumored to be coming to the Sox that he was supposedly not happy about the possibility. The Angels will probably be the front-runners since Izturis seems to finally be coming around for the Dodgers, and Khalil Greene looks like a decent player for the Padres. Although, I guess the Dodgers may decide to go after him anyway. I just think they will be bigger players in the the Ordonez or Beltran sweepstakes.

viagracat
07-01-2004, 09:56 PM
On BBTN, Gammons - with his ear ever to the street - says he heard a rumor coming out of Chicago that the Cubs would trade Matt Clement to Boston for Nomar Garciaparra.

Probably a load of BS, but does it seem like a fair trade?





Does anybody care?
Geez, if I'm the Cubs I make that move right now.

MetalliSox
07-01-2004, 11:37 PM
Watched the 14 inning classic tonight between Yanks and Boston.
Nomar was the only non pitcher to NOT play in the game. The reported he had words with Francona about not being in the line up.
Nomar wants out of Boston it seems and a trade like this makes sense for both teams if you ask me.

DSpivack
07-02-2004, 01:09 AM
Is it just me or is Nomar one of the most overrated players in MLB? Not as much as Jeter but it seems he is overrated.

pissonthecubs
07-02-2004, 01:29 AM
kinda funny how in a 13 inning game where all but one position player was used (that one being Nomar), he was the one sat out. don't teams that are looking to trade a guy real soon, wanna have the manager sit him just in case of a fluke injury were to happen? i think looking at Nomar's numbers out of Fenway, do Flubs fans have anything to look forward to with him at short?

HomeFish
07-02-2004, 01:31 AM
do Flubs fans have anything to look forward to with him at short?

Fielding errors?

pissonthecubs
07-02-2004, 01:33 AM
Is it just me or is Nomar one of the most overrated players in MLB? Not as much as Jeter but it seems he is overrated.
there are nights on BBTN, that Nomar bumps Jeter off the top of the list of most overrated, but overall, Jeter takes the cake night in and night out.

Fungo
07-02-2004, 09:21 AM
Bleh... I would. The only benefit to getting a Nomar Garciaparra is adding a bonafide star attraction on your roster. That and the 3 or 6 games a year we play at Fenway.
& having Mia Hamm at the games wouldn't be a bad thing.

bobj4400
07-02-2004, 09:54 AM
Is it just me or is Nomar one of the most overrated players in MLB? Not as much as Jeter but it seems he is overrated.
Jeter is better than No-mah. I hope the Chubs get him. He is hitting .242 and Clement is having a great year. Hendry make this trade!

SOXSINCE'70
07-02-2004, 11:55 AM
no...nomar must not go to those northside punks...

he belongs on the southside, IMO.

i wouldn't mind seeing him in a sox jersey.
I'd rather see his wife in a Sox jersey.:D: :D:

VenturaSoxFan23
07-02-2004, 12:26 PM
This proposed deal is so one-sided. If I was Boston, I'd do it without a second thought. :D:

eshunn2001
07-02-2004, 02:08 PM
I'd rather see his wife in a Sox jersey.:D: :D:
I would rather see his wife as i took OFF her jersey :o:

VenturaSoxFan23
07-03-2004, 11:52 AM
I'm too mature for such thoughts. :tongue:

BreakiNewz
07-03-2004, 05:25 PM
This proposed deal is so one-sided. If I was Boston, I'd do it without a second thought. :D:
Even though Clement is due a decent payday at the end of the year, I would much rather go after someone like Orlando Cabrera from Montreal or even Furcal from Atlanta (although that would be far less likely) before entertaining the notion of Nomar. Even someone like Omar Vizquel would be an upgrade, allowing the Cubs to go after someone like Renteria, Garciaparra and the like in the offseason.

The Cubs need Clement more than they need another hitter right now. It would be ludicris to do a straight up 1-1 deal.

FightingBillini
07-03-2004, 05:55 PM
Jeter is by far the most overrated player in the game today. You guys are forgetting, not only did Nomar win a batting title, but he is a .322 career hitter. HE is a bonafide star, and he is much better defensively than Jeter. Jeter looks good becuase he has a strong arm, but he has NO range at all.

Also, Jeter is a hot dog. The next time I see him go to his left and make that leaping across body throw, rather than planting and throwing, just to look "cool", I will snap. He is a good baserunner, and a better than average hitter at SS. If he didnt play for the Yankees, he would be making $2 mil a year. Funny how playing for a certain team makes a player so much "better"

If Damaso Marte played for the Yankees, he would be hailed as the next Rollie Fingers.

JRIG
07-03-2004, 06:01 PM
Jeter is by far the most overrated player in the game today. You guys are forgetting, not only did Nomar win a batting title, but he is a .322 career hitter. HE is a bonafide star, and he is much better defensively than Jeter. Jeter looks good becuase he has a strong arm, but he has NO range at all.

Also, Jeter is a hot dog. The next time I see him go to his left and make that leaping across body throw, rather than planting and throwing, just to look "cool", I will snap. He is a good baserunner, and a better than average hitter at SS. If he didnt play for the Yankees, he would be making $2 mil a year. Funny how playing for a certain team makes a player so much "better"

If Damaso Marte played for the Yankees, he would be hailed as the next Rollie Fingers.
Great post.

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