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SOXSINCE'70
06-27-2004, 07:56 AM
"He Gone" is one thing.When he starts calling the team "Our Sox,"a save is
"Shingotime",and Manos is "the meister of the 3 run homer"(does that make him the "Hamburglar" of strikeouts in McDonald's land),Sox fans are witnessing an on air meltdown a la Jimmy Piersall,IMHO.:?: :?:

RedPinStripes
06-27-2004, 08:54 AM
Hawk lost it when he traded Bobby Bonillia for Jose Deleon. :D:

vegyrex
06-27-2004, 08:57 AM
Hawk lost it when he traded Bobby Bonillia for Jose Deleon. :D:
:smile::D::tongue:

vegyrex
06-27-2004, 09:01 AM
"He Gone" is one thing.When he starts calling the team "Our Sox,"a save is
"Shingotime",and Manos is "the meister of the 3 run homer"(does that make him the "Hamburglar" of strikeouts in McDonald's land),Sox fans are witnessing an on air meltdown a la Jimmy Piersall,IMHO.:?: :?:
I don't see a problem. Besides didn't all have a good time seeing Jimmy meltdown?? Also, look at the crowd reaction when Shingo came out of the bullpen. They went nuts!!!!

At that moment it really was Shingotime. :wink:

SoxFan76
06-27-2004, 11:04 AM
I think Hawk is having a lot more fun this year. He is seeing the team bunt (ok, they aren't very good at it, but they are atleast trying), hit and runs, stealing bases, just playing baseball. The JM era was a time of very boring baseball, and I think Hawk is just enjoying watching this team and seriously thinks they can do something in the playoffs. (If they make it)

He's a little weird, but hey, would you rather have Chip Caray and Ron Santo in the booth?

:hawk
MERCY

jabrch
06-27-2004, 11:07 AM
Hawk lost it when he traded Bobby Bonillia for Jose Deleon. :D:
And when he tried to move Fisk to play OF or IF.

(Thank the lord that Hawk realized he is a better play by play guy than a GM.)

viagracat
06-27-2004, 12:19 PM
I think Hawk is having a lot more fun this year. He is seeing the team bunt (ok, they aren't very good at it, but they are atleast trying), hit and runs, stealing bases, just playing baseball. The JM era was a time of very boring baseball, and I think Hawk is just enjoying watching this team and seriously thinks they can do something in the playoffs. (If they make it)

He's a little weird, but hey, would you rather have Chip Caray and Ron Santo in the booth?

:hawk
MERCY
:angry: :angry: :angry: Gee thanks, I just lost my breakfast :angry: :angry: :angry:

WSox8404
06-27-2004, 12:36 PM
He's a little weird, but hey, would you rather have Chip Caray and Ron Santo in the booth?


GOD NO!!! PLEASE GOD NO!!!

The Critic
06-27-2004, 02:56 PM
I'm enjoying Hawk quite a bit this year.
"ShingoTime" is all right by me. I hope it catches on.
And he just trotted out a "He Gawn" on Olivo's EXCELLENT throw to 2nd to nail Patterson trying to steal.

Brian26
06-27-2004, 03:36 PM
Longtime fans and viewers can probably notice that Hawk has lost a half of a step in the past couple of years. He's not quite as quick on bang-bang plays as he used to be. Sometimes he calls a guy by the wrong name, reads the wrong score, or just fumbles his words ever so slightly. Sometimes there's a slight pause as he figures out if a ball is caught or if a homer cleared the fence. It's probably not even noticed by people who have been casual fans.

Still, he's light-years better than Santo is now and what Harry became in his last few years. Hawk is doing just fine and will be fine for quite awhile.

With that said, the "Shingotime" comment was just pure emotion. It was a cool moment.

ChiWhiteSox1337
06-27-2004, 03:39 PM
I like Hawk because he loves the white sox. But not in a way like Chimp on the otherside of the town, he seems to have an orgasm when he talks about Mark Prior's legs.

Iguana775
06-27-2004, 03:39 PM
Longtime fans and viewers can probably notice that Hawk has lost a half of a step in the past couple of years. He's not quite as quick on bang-bang plays as he used to be. Sometimes he calls a guy by the wrong name, reads the wrong score, or just fumbles his words ever so slightly. Sometimes there's a slight pause as he figures out if a ball is caught or if a homer cleared the fence. It's probably not even noticed by people who have been casual fans.

Still, he's light-years better than Santo is now and what Harry became in his last few years. Hawk is doing just fine and will be fine for quite awhile.

With that said, the "Shingotime" comment was just pure emotion. It was a cool moment.
he needs to just start doing what Harry Carry did...get sloshed! lol. that would be an interesting game.

DrummerGeorgefan
06-27-2004, 03:57 PM
Did anyone else just notice him say Diaz "showed huge stones" in yesterday's performance. WGN brass must be frightful of what will happen next.

ChiWhiteSox1337
06-27-2004, 04:09 PM
Did anyone else just notice him say Diaz "showed huge stones" in yesterday's performance. WGN brass must be frightful of what will happen next. Yeah, I've heard it two times today. At the beginning of the game and a few minutes ago.

inta
06-27-2004, 04:18 PM
I can't understand how anyone can hate on Hawk...
he just has a classic announcer feel to him.

most announcers today are too sterile, too whitewashed.
when i hear a chip carey or a joe buck i feel like i'm listening to a presentation on corporate fiscal year earnings.

BKozi
06-27-2004, 05:10 PM
Personally, I'm not a big Hawk and DJ fan. I realize that it could be worse, but it could be a lot, lot better. Everything that they say is either a cliche or it sounds rehearsed. Good announcers make you feel like you're at the game, not bombard you with 9 innings worth of sayings and inside jokes that they invented. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the "You can put it on the board..YES!" schtick. That is getting really old, especially as Hawk and DJ chime in together on the "YES" (which if I remember correctly began with Wimpy).

Looking in from the outside (of Chicago that is), it's kind of making the Sox a laughing stock IMHO. If you ever listen to Sportscenter or the Dan Patrick Show (which I know many people don't think that they give the Sox enough respect but that's besides the point), they basically make Hawk look foolish whenever they include any of his soundbytes or mimic him. This may not seem like a big deal in Chicago, but it has a big effect on national perception.

Guys like Joe Buck and Jon Miller can make a game exciting that you normally wouldn't care about. I've often found myself hitting the mute button when I'm watching a Sox game with Hawk and DJ announcing.

VA_GoGoSox
06-27-2004, 05:55 PM
I love listening to Hawk announce. I don't understand why people don't like him. The guy loves the Sox, he knows the game and his catch-phrases are awesome.

I have the MLB package on TV and I can tell you that most announcers for other teams are pretty darn boring. I'll take Hawk any day. D.J. on the other hand...

the_valenstache
06-27-2004, 06:48 PM
(does that make him the "Hamburglar" of strikeouts in McDonald's land)
Mayor McWhiff.

scottyl
06-27-2004, 06:57 PM
Did anyone else just notice him say Diaz "showed huge stones" in yesterday's performance.

Hawk....YEEES!

CJLove23
06-27-2004, 07:41 PM
I think Hawk is having a lot more fun this year. He is seeing the team bunt (ok, they aren't very good at it, but they are atleast trying), hit and runs, stealing bases, just playing baseball. The JM era was a time of very boring baseball, and I think Hawk is just enjoying watching this team and seriously thinks they can do something in the playoffs. (If they make it)

He's a little weird, but hey, would you rather have Chip Caray and Ron Santo in the booth?

:hawk
MERCY
Ron Santo/Chip Caray acts like every base hit is a grand slam that just won the World Series!! "OH MY GOD!! HIT TO RIGHT FIELD!! Sammy runs to first!! Throw...NOT IN TIME! Sosa on first!!" :rolleyes: or...:as Soso is casually walking slowly to catch a fly ball..."Sammy RUNNING TO CATCH! OH MY GOD!! HE CAUGHT IT!! AMAZING PLAY BY SOSA!!"

Hawk is just fine!

SOXSINCE'70
06-27-2004, 10:14 PM
Mayor McWhiff.
Thank you.:D: :D: :D:

Baby Fisk
06-28-2004, 11:00 AM
I love listening to Hawk announce. I don't understand why people don't like him. The guy loves the Sox, he knows the game and his catch-phrases are awesome.

I have the MLB package on TV and I can tell you that most announcers for other teams are pretty darn boring. I'll take Hawk any day. D.J. on the other hand...
I was going to post the same message about the MLB package, but VA_GoGo beat me to it. I challenge any Hawk detractors to spend an evening listening to the crew of a Milwaukee/Cleveland/Minnesota/Seattle/Toronto/etc etc etc game. You will then realize how AWESOME the Hawk is.

Ken Harrelson...YES! :cool:

itsnotrequired
06-28-2004, 11:08 AM
Ron Santo/Chip Caray acts like every base hit is a grand slam that just won the World Series!! "OH MY GOD!! HIT TO RIGHT FIELD!! Sammy runs to first!! Throw...NOT IN TIME! Sosa on first!!" :rolleyes: or...:as Soso is casually walking slowly to catch a fly ball..."Sammy RUNNING TO CATCH! OH MY GOD!! HE CAUGHT IT!! AMAZING PLAY BY SOSA!!"

Hawk is just fine!
Agreed. Pop flys are the worst with Santo/Caray. Not every fly is a homer. guys.

Hawk and DJ get a little too excited from time to time (what announcer doesn't) but far less than Santo and Chip. I like Hawk's "layed back" approach to announcing.

iwcup
06-28-2004, 11:15 AM
I dont mind hawk, but its the lack of or forced chemistry that he and DJ have that gets to me.. it sounds as if they force stuff....

not that I dont like hawk, but give me rooney and farmer anyday.

34 Inch Stick
06-28-2004, 12:38 PM
The one saying I don't like is "Stretch". Hey he's at the game and can see the flight of the ball. He should have a good idea what is going to make the seats. Don't pull my crank about a conclusion that you already know.

Tekijawa
06-28-2004, 12:47 PM
he needs to just start doing what Harry Carry did...get sloshed! lol. that would be an interesting game.
Yeah then they would have to send security up to the booth when He and DJ would get in a fistfight half way through each game!

GoSox2K3
06-28-2004, 01:22 PM
Looking in from the outside (of Chicago that is), it's kind of making the Sox a laughing stock IMHO. If you ever listen to Sportscenter or the Dan Patrick Show (which I know many people don't think that they give the Sox enough respect but that's besides the point), they basically make Hawk look foolish whenever they include any of his soundbytes or mimic him. This may not seem like a big deal in Chicago, but it has a big effect on national perception.
I remember a few decades ago, the Sox had another announcer that got no respect from outside the Sox fanbase and was derided by some as foolish, lowbrow, unprofessional and an embarassment that made the Sox the laughingstock of baseball. Then, HOLY COW! Harry Caray goes over to the Cubs and overnight he becomes a beloved national institution and the cornerstone of the rise of Cub Mania.

I know this joke has been said on WSI before, but if we hate Hawk so much, this is what the Sox fans should hope for:

- Sox Fire Hawk Harrelson
- Cubs turn around and hire him to replace Chimp
- Hawk becomes a national institution and Cub fans act like he's always been the Cubs announcer.
- Hawk becomes incoherent, but his popularity soars. Millions more consume Cubbie Kool-Aid.
- Sox fans bombarded with nonstop comparisons between the Cubs' legendary announcer and the Sox generic nobody replacement for Hawk. Newcomers to Chicago say they don't like the Sox because they don't have Hawk Harrelson.
- "You Can Put It on the Board---YES!!" and "He Gone!" Become household phrases and become synonymous with the unrelenting Cub Mania.
- After Hawk retires, Cubs erect a statue of him next to Harry's.

Jerko
06-28-2004, 01:31 PM
Saturday was hilarious, then it got bad. DJ was going on and on about giving the Sox offense a "six" because when they face good pitchers they cover the plate and don't look for one pitch to hit, blah blah. He went on for about a minute or 2 and then asked Hawk what # he would give the Sox offense (1 to 10) and Hawk paused for about 10 seconds and said; Sorry, I was listening to something else! :rolling:


Then, sadly, instead of taking the hint and shutting up, DJ REPEATED THE ENTIRE rant. That MAY have been the most painful inning I've sat thru Sox-wise.

soxnut
06-28-2004, 01:39 PM
Ron Santo/Chip Caray acts like every base hit is a grand slam that just won the World Series!! "OH MY GOD!! HIT TO RIGHT FIELD!! Sammy runs to first!! Throw...NOT IN TIME! Sosa on first!!" :rolleyes: or...:as Soso is casually walking slowly to catch a fly ball..."Sammy RUNNING TO CATCH! OH MY GOD!! HE CAUGHT IT!! AMAZING PLAY BY SOSA!!"

Hawk is just fine!

I feel the same way about Chip. He drives me crazy!

As for Hawk and the some of the new phrases he's had this year. It's great. When Hawk first came back as an announcer with the Sox in the early 90's( a time when the Sox were fun and competive), he had alot of nicknames and such. So here we are in 2004, where the team is fun and competitive again and Hawk is having fun again as well.

For those of you who complain about Hawk, I don't get it. He is a breath of fresh air in an era of bland style announcers. Almost all of them sound exactly the same. Why do announcers have to sound like that?

And as for other local-yocal announcers, when radio/tv plays a clip of one of their calls when something great happens, they sound ridiculous. And so many of then try to have their "Giants win the pennant" moment and they sound awful. How about that guy in Seattle? He's terrible.

Speaking of terrible. Bob Ryan on ESPN--Could he sound any more generic? Dan Shulman on ESPN--Can he ever stop making every other letter sound like a "d"?(He really drives me nuts) I don't know whose worse Dan Shulman or Chip...........:(: :whiner: :mad: :smile:

Dan Gelo
06-28-2004, 02:12 PM
Is the Seattle guy the "bye bye baseball guy?"If so, he's terrible.

PaulC327
06-28-2004, 04:43 PM
You gotta love Hawk, I don't care what people say about him he's just a die hard true Sox fan enjoying the game like the rest of us do. He just happens to be the play by play guy at the same time. I mean did you hear him call that Timo homer Sunday, he sounded like a little kid. Its like hes sitting right there with you. I also like DJ because he hives a little more recent point of view on things and they just work off each other really well.

Ken
06-28-2004, 05:16 PM
Still...ANYBODY is better than the bad commedy skit that we are forced to listen to on the Sox radio broadcasts. I am sick of their idiotic inside jokes. At least Hawk's comments are funny!!!

fusillirob1983
06-28-2004, 10:13 PM
Going back to DJ's ranking of Sox hitting from 1-10 a few posts ago, I remember that too, and I have to say it was very painful to sit through for me as well. I'm not really sure if Hawk seriously listening to something else or if he just has learned to space out when DJ says something like that.

Later in the game DJ was giving his hitting philosophy that he has about facing a good pitcher. Then Hawk said his differed from DJ's. After Hawk said his piece, which was the opposite of what DJ said, DJ completely agreed with him. Sometimes I'm embarassed to listen to DJ, but it's funny when he says something dumb and Hawk shuts him down.

Petch
06-28-2004, 10:52 PM
I'm not the biggest fan of any of our broadcasters, whether that be TV or radio (Radio especially). I think that by comparison though, Hawk is just fine. I would sure as hell rather listen to him than DJ. What we need is a Steve Stone. A guy who can predict exactly what will happen and then explain why he was able to predict that. I hate the Cubs, but Stone is one guy in that organization that deserves some credit.

soxwon
06-28-2004, 11:21 PM
i love the hawk n dj, they are as much part of the sox as kw and oz.

whtsx1959
06-29-2004, 01:32 PM
some of hawk's phrases dont bother me

but he crossed the line when he started saying 'stretch' for every deep flyball
hes turning into ron santo