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Hangar18
06-05-2004, 04:36 PM
Day 1 of the The Messiahs return wasnt anything short of a giant
Propoganda Laced, Infomercial. The White Sox win a Big Game on the Road, against a Team theyve had trouble with the last few years, and are in 1st Place, yet struggle to get recognition today. Whats most INFURIATING, is the fact that The Messiah, who is quickly becoming known in national media circles as being Quick-Tempered and a Jerk, is AGAIN given a free pass by the CHICAGO MEDIA, who were NOT quick to write articles LAMBASTING him for leaving early. Unbelievable. Had Thomas done the same thing, Mariotti wouldve written another one of his "big blurt at it again" stories. Mariotti Tries to write an article slamming The Great One, but like the Rest of the Chicago Media, cant separate himself from his work. Whats the Matter Jay? dont want the fake Messiah mad at you?
Numerous articles couldve been written on the SOX yesterday.....yet just arent being done. And to this day..........
STILL NO MAGGS WATCH. I hate the biased media here :angry: However, before the broadcast of the game today, FOX had some Very Glowing things to say about the White SOX, and how theyre starting to get the Attention
in the baseball community (heh heh just not in Chicago)

Cubune:
6 Messiah Stories
3 sox stories
Cub-Times:
6 Messiah Stories
2 sox stories

Standings since Spring Training ................
CUBS 834
SOX 566

SOXintheBURGH
06-05-2004, 05:51 PM
Best part about the MESSIAH return was watching Josh Fogg pitch just as well... and the Buccos won, great game.

nasox
06-05-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by SOXintheBURGH
Best part about the MESSIAH return was watching Josh Fogg pitch just as well... and the Buccos won, great game.

Problem is, whenever Fogg pitches well, I get real pissed at KW. But no use crying over spilled milk, eh?

pearso66
06-05-2004, 09:48 PM
Why do you get pissed when Fogg pitches well? that is few and far between. I don't want him on the Sox.

kittle42
06-05-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by nasox
Problem is, whenever Fogg pitches well, I get real pissed at KW. But no use crying over spilled milk, eh?

Get over it. Fogg sucks ***.

ChiSoxFann
06-05-2004, 10:50 PM
everyone keeps talking about fogg and kip wells when they say KW is a bad GM but common Kip got his chances with this team and blew his fair share of them and Fogg is 500 pitcher with a 4 era at best

kittle42
06-06-2004, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by ChiSoxFann
everyone keeps talking about fogg and kip wells when they say KW is a bad GM but common Kip got his chances with this team and blew his fair share of them and Fogg is 500 pitcher with a 4 era at best

Common? I belive you meant "come on."

Nevertheless, you are 100% correct. I hated Kip Wells with a passion when he was here.

1951Campbell
06-06-2004, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by kittle42
Common? I belive you meant "come on."

Nevertheless, you are 100% correct. I hated Kip Wells with a passion when he was here.

There seemed to be a lot of angst here when Kip was traded away, but I think history has proven KW right on that one.

JRIG
06-06-2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by 1951Campbell
There seemed to be a lot of angst here when Kip was traded away, but I think history has proven KW right on that one.

On what planet? Wells has been outstanding the past two seasons, arguably better than anyone the White Sox have had in that span, outside of Loaiza last year. He's got ERAs the past two season of 3.58 and 3.28 with WHIPs of 1.35 and 1.25. This year his walks are up a bit, but the rest of the numbers are steady. If we still had Wells, there'd be no need to talk about acquiring another starter.

TornLabrum
06-06-2004, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by JRIG
On what planet? Wells has been outstanding the past two seasons, arguably better than anyone the White Sox have had in that span, outside of Loaiza last year. He's got ERAs the past two season of 3.58 and 3.28 with WHIPs of 1.35 and 1.25. This year his walks are up a bit, but the rest of the numbers are steady. If we still had Wells, there'd be no need to talk about acquiring another starter.

What? You don't appreciate that pennant that Todd Ritchie brought us?

voodoochile
06-06-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by JRIG
On what planet? Wells has been outstanding the past two seasons, arguably better than anyone the White Sox have had in that span, outside of Loaiza last year. He's got ERAs the past two season of 3.58 and 3.28 with WHIPs of 1.35 and 1.25. This year his walks are up a bit, but the rest of the numbers are steady. If we still had Wells, there'd be no need to talk about acquiring another starter.

add .5 ERA and .2 WHIP to convert from NL to AL.

Hangar18
06-06-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by JRIG
Wells has been outstanding the past two seasons, arguably better than anyone the White Sox have had in that span, outside of Loaiza last year. He's got ERAs the past two season of 3.58 and 3.28 with WHIPs of 1.35 and 1.25.

YES, but this was done in the National League. Bring him
back to the AL and watch those numbers SOAR like a ROCKET.
Its what happened to Todd Ritchie when he got here.....
Rule of Thumb. Never trade for a .500 pitcher in the NL.

MRKARNO
06-06-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
add .5 ERA and .2 WHIP to convert from NL to AL.

Well maybe it has something to do with style for some pitchers that they like the NL so much, but the actually "conversion" at this moment is .39 ERA and .065 WHIP, for anyone who wants to be exact

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/lg_averages2004.html?PHPSESSID=ad758899ee21e9ea304 b667e2b078b19


2004 League pitching averages

LG ERA RA H/9 BB/9 SO/9 HR/9 WHIP G/F
AL 4.58 4.99 9.45 3.50 6.23 1.09 1.439 1.655
NL 4.19 4.57 8.95 3.41 6.57 1.07 1.374 1.906

voodoochile
06-06-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by MRKARNO
Well maybe it has something to do with style for some pitchers that they like the NL so much, but the actually "conversion" at this moment is .39 ERA and .065 WHIP, for anyone who wants to be exact

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/lg_averages2004.html?PHPSESSID=ad758899ee21e9ea304 b667e2b078b19

Thanks for clarifying the numbers. I was making an estimate off of the top of my head.

Some pitchers fare better when not being forced to face a DH 5 times a game instead of a pitcher 2-3 times a game and then some bench scrub as a PH the rest of the time...