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Win1ForMe
06-02-2004, 01:42 AM
This question is more to our resident minor league scouts. I thought Neal was voted as having the best change in the minors? Why haven't we seen this with the Sox?

batmanZoSo
06-02-2004, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Win1ForMe
This question is more to our resident minor league scouts. I thought Neal was voted as having the best change in the minors? Why haven't we seen this with the Sox?

We did once in Toronto.

"And there it goees! Way back!"

WhiteSox = Life
06-02-2004, 01:48 AM
If you're not throwing strikes and you leave a changeup high, it's going to go a long way. Not much more than that, the way I see it.

DMarte708
06-02-2004, 03:21 AM
I don't have any tapes available to review my belief, but it could be possible he's tipping his pitches. Maybe Cotts performs some unintentional movement (hesitating, double clutching) which other teams are told to look for. Whether thats the case or not, Cooper must teach him to work on this pitch. A one pitch pitcher doesn't work out of the bullpen, and it sure as hell won't sit well in the fifth starters spot.

I'm tired of Hawk scolding Cotts not to throw the changeup because it "speeds up their bats." I don't care how "sneaky" his fastball is, it won't be as effective without several setup pitches. Odd how countless pitchers throw changeups (without a huge deferential in speed) without problems.............but not Neal.

voodoochile
06-02-2004, 09:05 AM
Cotts is a lefty specialist and to be honest this is probably a problem for the Sox right now. Except for Marte they don't appear to have many BP pitchers who can go more than an inning and get both RH and LH hitters out.

The starters have just been so good that it isn't a major issue.

Politte and Koch both have the potential to do this, but Koch clearly isn't trusted by Ozzie and is being used only in save situations and Politte is having a bad year.

Mohoney
06-02-2004, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Cotts is a lefty specialist and to be honest this is probably a problem for the Sox right now. Except for Marte they don't appear to have many BP pitchers who can go more than an inning and get both RH and LH hitters out.

The starters have just been so good that it isn't a major issue.

Politte and Koch both have the potential to do this, but Koch clearly isn't trusted by Ozzie and is being used only in save situations and Politte is having a bad year.

Naybe it's time to see if Shingo can? He's looked great so far.

sas1974
06-02-2004, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
...but Koch clearly isn't trusted by Ozzie and is being used only in save situations...

This is a bit contradictory, no?

SEALgep
06-02-2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by sas1974
This is a bit contradictory, no? I'd say.

Iguana775
06-02-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by sas1974
This is a bit contradictory, no?

LOL....yea.

HomeFish
06-02-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Win1ForMe
Why haven't we seen this with the Sox?

They got him one of those electric collars. It shocks him everytime he throws one.

He's learned quickly.

OEO Magglio
06-02-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by sas1974
This is a bit contradictory, no?
No, because ozzie won't put koch in during a tie ball game. He's only using him to close games out.