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Realist
05-28-2004, 08:04 AM
I was on the fence as to where this should be posted. I know it doesn't directly relate to the on-field antics of the White Sox, and in a sense it does.

Whenever the Sox hit a home run, these kind folks open their checkbooks to charity. Someone in chat (I'm sorry, I forgot which of us did this. I was too busy drooling over the 9-0 victory) posted this link in chat during the game Thursday nite and I thought it would be great to hear the background story.

Chicago Couple Claim $64 Million Jackpot
Wednesday December 31, 1969 [huh? - Realist]
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS Sept. 19, 2000 As reported by The Chicago Sun-Times : "Alex Snelius wants a fully loaded, black Lincoln. His wife, Ursula, wants the honeymoon the couple never had. With the $64 million that the Lithuanian immigrants, who live in Burbank, won in the lottery's Big Game, they can afford both.

http://www.casino-associates.com/gambling-news/2000/9/19/a-16185.php

It's been said that you're either part of the solution or part of the problem. These people are definitely part of the solution. You can put in on the board... yes. :D:

jabrch
05-28-2004, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Realist
I was on the fence as to where this should be posted. I know it doesn't directly relate to the on-field antics of the White Sox, and in a sense it does.

Whenever the Sox hit a home run, these kind folks open their checkbooks to charity. Someone in chat (I'm sorry, I forgot which of us did this. I was too busy drooling over the 9-0 victory) posted this link in chat during the game Thursday nite and I thought it would be great to hear the background story.




http://www.casino-associates.com/gambling-news/2000/9/19/a-16185.php

It's been said that you're either part of the solution or part of the problem. These people are definitely part of the solution. You can put in on the board... yes. :D:

Yeah - that was me. I try to remind everyone about this every time we hit a HR - if I am around the Chat room. But these are some cool folks I imagine. Life-long sox fans who won 64mm and wanted to do something good and tie it into their favorite team. As the story goes, Alex was watching the Sox get pounded to death in 2000 when Ursula told him they just won the lottery. Thus - the idea to give money for each Sox HR. I don't know the Sneliae (is Senliae plural for Snelius or is it Sneliuses?) but I imagine Alex has a pretty cool bigscreen TV to watch his Sox on now!


Alex and Ursula Snelius.....YES!!!!!!

MarqSox
05-28-2004, 09:01 AM
Let me preface this by saying, I'll never criticize anybody for donating money to charity, and I'm certainly not doing that now. What the Sneliuses do is highly commendable.

That said, it sure seems like they get a whole lot of bang for their charitable buck. That is, they get mentioned probably 2 or 3 times during every Sox broadcast ... yet if the Sox hit 200 home runs this season, they'll only end up paying out $20,000. Not to diminish the value of a $20,000 donation, but when you figure the average 30-second commercial costs, what, $10,000?

I'm amazed that no company has offered to donate twice what the Sneliuses do. It's a ton of relatively cheap, positive publicity. Even if you were paying like $400 per home run, you'd still get more on-air mentions than you would for the same amount by advertsing, AND you'd get the tax writeoff.

jabrch
05-28-2004, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by MarqSox
Let me preface this by saying, I'll never criticize anybody for donating money to charity, and I'm certainly not doing that now. What the Sneliuses do is highly commendable.

That said, it sure seems like they get a whole lot of bang for their charitable buck. That is, they get mentioned probably 2 or 3 times during every Sox broadcast ... yet if the Sox hit 200 home runs this season, they'll only end up paying out $20,000. Not to diminish the value of a $20,000 donation, but when you figure the average 30-second commercial costs, what, $10,000?

I'm amazed that no company has offered to donate twice what the Sneliuses do. It's a ton of relatively cheap, positive publicity. Even if you were paying like $400 per home run, you'd still get more on-air mentions than you would for the same amount by advertsing, AND you'd get the tax writeoff.

I hope the Sox wouldn't screw Mr. and Mrs. Snelius by selling that to a corporation when the Sneliuses have been doing it for 3 years. That said - I wouldn't be surprised.

Dadawg_77
05-28-2004, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by jabrch
I hope the Sox wouldn't screw Mr. and Mrs. Snelius by selling that to a corporation when the Sneliuses have been doing it for 3 years. That said - I wouldn't be surprised.

But what is Sox could get triple or quadruple the money for charity? Are they screwing over the Snelius' or charities?

jabrch
05-28-2004, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Dadawg_77
But what is Sox could get triple or quadruple the money for charity? Are they screwing over the Snelius' or charities?

There is plenty of action to go around. Doubles, Triples, Double Plays, the play of the game, the drive of the game, etc. etc. etc. Companies with money to spend on charitable donations will find places to spend it. In this case, Mr. and Mrs Snelius are doing an awesome thing and I hope they continue to be permitted and given credit for doing it. BTW - i am sure that if McDonalds, for example, offered to give $1000 for each HR, that the Sneliuses would be thrilled to have a joint announcement, or to have it alternate between them and McDs.

bennyw41
05-28-2004, 09:51 AM
Not only are there opportunities for other sponsors, they only announce the snelius folks on TV, that means, that private donors, or radio sponsors, could donate for every White Sox home run. Just cause its vocal, doesn't make it exclusionary.

MarqSox
05-28-2004, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by jabrch
BTW - i am sure that if McDonalds, for example, offered to give $1000 for each HR, that the Sneliuses would be thrilled to have a joint announcement, or to have it alternate between them and McDs.
But what if McD's doesn't want to share the announcement? What if their $1,000 is contingent on it being just theirs? For the Sox or the Sneliuses to say no to that would be an affront to the very charities they attempt to serve. It shouldn't be about where the money is coming from (assuming, of course, it was legally obtained) but about where the money is going. If the charity has to choose between $100 and $1,000, I would hope they'd choose the latter.

Kilroy
05-28-2004, 10:03 AM
It's quite obvious that the Sneliuses are donating simply because they are good people. And while they get a mention on every Sox HR, I'm certain that if McDonald's or some other corp went after it, making 10 times the donation for the on air-pub, they wouldn't give it a second thought, and would work out something else.

LongLiveFisk
05-28-2004, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Realist
http://www.casino-associates.com/gambling-news/2000/9/19/a-16185.php

Wow, these people live in Burbank, just like me....maybe they can donate some $$ to a Sox fan neighbor? :D:

Over By There
05-28-2004, 11:36 AM
In terms of the corporate sponsorship of these types of things, I think it can backfire. IIRC, NECA/IBEW donates a whopping $25 to charity when the Sox win by 5 or more runs. Any money to charity is good, but that is laughable. How many times a year do the Sox win by more than 5 runs? Even if they win 80 games by more than 5 runs, that's still only $2,000. I guess it's good advertising bang for the buck, but to me it's an embarassingly low amount to donate and make a big deal out of.

Kadafi311
05-28-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by jabrch
There is plenty of action to go around. Doubles, Triples, Double Plays, the play of the game, the drive of the game, etc. etc. etc. Companies with money to spend on charitable donations will find places to spend it. In this case, Mr. and Mrs Snelius are doing an awesome thing and I hope they continue to be permitted and given credit for doing it. BTW - i am sure that if McDonalds, for example, offered to give $1000 for each HR, that the Sneliuses would be thrilled to have a joint announcement, or to have it alternate between them and McDs.

Not a big fan of this idea, can you imagine it...

"And the pitch, low and away... and with that ball the Nissan Motor Corporation will donate $10 dollars to charity. And the pitch, single to right... and with that single Chase Corp. will donate $50 dollars to the Give Me a Friggin Break Fund."

:gulp:

tromcoe
05-28-2004, 11:51 AM
The White Sox would never let a corporation donate to a for something like this. It would be a something more like ' That was the McDonalsd home run' But if you think about it they already have the 'Hyundi Home Run Replay'

CubKilla
05-28-2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by jabrch
I hope the Sox wouldn't screw Mr. and Mrs. Snelius by selling that to a corporation when the Sneliuses have been doing it for 3 years. That said - I wouldn't be surprised.

:reinsy

"I never met a dollar bill I didn't like. Come to think of it, I like 200 dollar bills more than I like 100 dollar bills..... even if it IS for charity."

TDog
05-28-2004, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by tromcoe
The White Sox would never let a corporation donate to a for something like this. It would be a something more like ' That was the McDonalsd home run' But if you think about it they already have the 'Hyundi Home Run Replay'

As Phoenix was gearing up for its first season of Major League Baseball in Bank One Ballpark, the word in the Arizona Republic was that the announcers were going to be incorporating "Bank One blast" into every Diamonbacks home run call. There was public outroar, and the idea went away. Or maybe the Diamondbacks simply didn't hit any home runs that year. Every time I went to see them play that first year, they got shut out.

I always liked the Alex and Ursula Snelius donation announcements, though.

Meixner007
05-28-2004, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox


That said, it sure seems like they get a whole lot of bang for their charitable buck. That is, they get mentioned probably 2 or 3 times during every Sox broadcast ... yet if the Sox hit 200 home runs this season, they'll only end up paying out $20,000. Not to diminish the value of a $20,000 donation, but when you figure the average 30-second commercial costs, what, $10,000?



The difference here is Alex and Ursula aren't advertising anything. Who cares if they get exposure, they have nothing to sell. All they get is a tax write off...and I don't think they're doing it for that reason.

HK Chicago
05-28-2004, 04:12 PM
average 30-second commercial costs, what, $10,000?

^ I'm only familiar with BloombergTV cable rates, but I bet a Sox 30s commercial is only 200-400 dollars, probably less considering the # of games and limited region.

MikeKreevich
05-28-2004, 04:35 PM
How about a new "Hawkism". "Big Frank has faced him 20 times with six hits and the Snelius's have donated three hundred."

MarqSox
05-28-2004, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Meixner007
The difference here is Alex and Ursula aren't advertising anything. Who cares if they get exposure, they have nothing to sell. All they get is a tax write off...and I don't think they're doing it for that reason.
Thing is (and again, I don't mean this as criticism), if they weren't interested in getting their names mentioned 300 times per season, they would just donate $20,000 anonymously at the end of the year. They aren't advertising anything, but they obviously like the attention.

steff
05-28-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox
Thing is (and again, I don't mean this as criticism), if they weren't interested in getting their names mentioned 300 times per season, they would just donate $20,000 anonymously at the end of the year. They aren't advertising anything, but they obviously like the attention.



I don't think they control that it's said.

MarqSox
05-28-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by steff
I don't think they control that it's said.
I'm sure that if they requested it not be said, it wouldn't be a problem.

steff
05-28-2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox
I'm sure that if they requested it not be said, it wouldn't be a problem.


Perhaps once they see their act of kindness being **** on here.. they will.

SEALgep
05-28-2004, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by steff
Perhaps once they see their act of kindness being **** on here.. they will. Anyone who ****s on their act of kindness should rethink what they're doing.

MarqSox
05-28-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by SEALgep
Anyone who ****s on their act of kindness should rethink what they're doing.
Nobody in this thread has **** on their act of kindness.

StillMissOzzie
05-29-2004, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Over By There
In terms of the corporate sponsorship of these types of things, I think it can backfire. IIRC, NECA/IBEW donates a whopping $25 to charity when the Sox win by 5 or more runs. Any money to charity is good, but that is laughable. How many times a year do the Sox win by more than 5 runs? Even if they win 80 games by more than 5 runs, that's still only $2,000. I guess it's good advertising bang for the buck, but to me it's an embarassingly low amount to donate and make a big deal out of.

Over By There, I've been waiting for an opportunity to rip the IBEW/NECA Chicago "sponsorship", and you went and beat me to the punch. I was doing some more number crunching in my idle time. I figure the Sox to win maybe 90 games this year, and I'd have guessed less than 1/4 of them by the magic 5 run margin. THAT would make a whopping $550-600 donation. As you say, any money to charity is good, and it's $550-600 more than I'll be giving to White Sox Chariities, but from the whole freakin' UNION? And yes, the fact that they get any air time at all for this pittance is embarrassing.

SMO

Bucktown
05-29-2004, 02:51 AM
People. don't be so naive here. All of these folks (including Ursula) pay the Sox a pretty penny to mention their names and donations. Do you think I could call up the Sox and tell them I am going to donate $50 for every balk and then they would mention it religiously (without fail) after every balk?

Duh, they pay for that.

I still think that Ursula and her Sox loving husband are cool people. They are clearly making lots of donations to charity. They also bought themselves some fame among their Sox brethren. I would do the exact same thing.

dillio
05-29-2004, 05:57 AM
I use to go to school with there grandson back in junior high. But once they won the money they moeved right away.

Whitesox029
05-29-2004, 09:24 AM
The fact that they're doing this for the White Sox as opposed to any other team shows that they're not afraid to pony up--the Sox now lead the AL in HR as you probably well know.