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32nd&Wallace
05-18-2004, 01:12 PM
I'm only 26...but I've been thinking about the worst Sox season in my lifetime...This last Twins series has evoked a lot of memories....I'm not necessarily asking for the most dissapointing, because frankly I don't think this website could handle that amount of data.....but just the all-out worst played baseball..
My dad is 56 and tells me two years stand out in his mind..1970 and 1976...
For me, the early part of 2001 combines as the most dissapointing and the worst season of Sox baseball. Anyone remember David Wells flip to the umpire and John Rooney's subsequent meltdown on the air?
THe late 1980s were a dark time. You knew a Sox team was bad when Ozzie was their only rep at the All-Star game. 1988 was pretty awful too considering that was the summer of the Florida fiasco.
**Note: If ANY statue should be erected on the premises of the Cell it should be that of Big Jim Thompson***
Anyone else, young and old alike, please share memories of certain seasons and particular games that typified the sesason

soxtalker
05-18-2004, 01:18 PM
I was away at school for '76, but I do recall '70. I even vaguely remember an article in one of the national news magazines talking about how inept we were. Whenever I see threads expressing the belief that some aspect of a current team is the worst ever, I think back to that 1970 team and wonder what Sox fans who lived through the miserable teams of the 20's, 30's, and 40's might say.

TheBull19
05-18-2004, 01:19 PM
1984

JRIG
05-18-2004, 01:23 PM
For me, it's 1997. But not for the "White Flag" trade.

I was 17, just before my senior year of high school. Went to 24 games at Comiskey that summer and had such high hopes. Albert Belle was signed. Jamie Navarro was signed. Doug Drabek was signed. Frank was still in his prime. It was supposed to be a murderer's row of Thomas, Belle, Ventura, and Baines.

Then Ventura had the freakish leg injury in Spring Training. Tony Phillips went insane. White Flag trade didn't help. Jason Bere got hurt (again). Navarro, Baldwin, and Drabek all had ERAs over 5.00. And boy, looking back at the stats, Belle sucked that year. .274/.332/.491 and grounded into 26 double plays. For all of the problems, IIRC, the Sox were still leading the Wild Card, or were within a game or two, when everything collapsed in September.

A good memory was being at Robin's first game back when he hit an RBI double in his first at bat.

KingXerxes
05-18-2004, 01:27 PM
1979.

Don Kessinger as player-manager.

Never in the race.

And a trade which brought us this man:

:farmer

"Did I play in 1979? Yes I did. Started saving some games, well not saving them in the sense that you put the into the banks, that would make no sense, but it would make cents - as in interest. And speaking of interest, if you are interested in our next homestand......................."

jackbrohamer
05-18-2004, 01:40 PM
1970, hands down. 56-106 record. I was in early grammar school but still remember the Sun Times running an article about how there less than 500 people at an early Sox home game.

Lip Man 1
05-18-2004, 01:54 PM
1970...worst Sox season EVER (although 1968 and 1969 were awful as well.) between garbage on the field, talk of the Sox moving to Milwaukee and Cub Mania it was hard to last the summer.

Thank God for Roland hemond!

Lip

samram
05-18-2004, 02:05 PM
1995

They came up with that goofy strike team and then had to try to get a real major league team assembled when the two sides got a deal done. I remember Mike Deveraux, Chris Sabo, John Kruk, Ysidro Marquez :(: , and others. They finished third or fourth, about eight games under .500 and Cleveland won 105 games. And to think we were a WS contender the year before.

mike squires
05-18-2004, 02:20 PM
I would have to be 1984 for me as well After such an amazing season in 83 you would think that 84 would be just as good. It only brought 7 years of dismal baseball on the Southside.

Hangar18
05-18-2004, 02:21 PM
1995
The SOX "anticipating" the new "luxury" tax rules, began letting players go, and picking up whoever was left by the end of the abbreviated spring training. Awful. who were they kidding.

doublem23
05-18-2004, 02:47 PM
1994.

Ours for the taking.

Baby Fisk
05-18-2004, 03:35 PM
1997 - the organization gives up. It took me 3 years to recover (partially).

DrummerGeorgefan
05-18-2004, 03:38 PM
1994: Burned some my baseball cards the day the strike was announced. Got sick inhaling the odd green smoke coming off the glossy cards.

Brian26
05-18-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by 32nd&Wallace
For me, the early part of 2001 combines as the most dissapointing and the worst season of Sox baseball. Anyone remember David Wells flip to the umpire and John Rooney's subsequent meltdown on the air?

Not sure if I remember exactly what you're talking about. I remember Rooney getting pissed a few times in April and May of 2001 as he said "this isn't the same team that won the division last year". Did Wells give the finger to an umpire? I've totally blocked that out of my memory if it happened.

Brian26
05-18-2004, 03:40 PM
I agree with Hangar 100%. Since 1980, 1995 was absolutely the most disappointing year. Nothing else comes close to matching it. We were buried before Memorial Day.

Frater Perdurabo
05-18-2004, 03:41 PM
Reading this thread is like suffering multiple paper cuts and then being stabbed in the heart.

The stabs in the heart for me are 1994, 1997 and 2003. :(:

batmanZoSo
05-18-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by KingXerxes

:farmer

"Did I play in 1979? Yes I did. Started saving some games, well not saving them in the sense that you put the into the banks, that would make no sense, but it would make cents - as in interest. And speaking of interest, if you are interested in our next homestand......................."

That's awesome :cool:

32nd&Wallace
05-18-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Not sure if I remember exactly what you're talking about. I remember Rooney getting pissed a few times in April and May of 2001 as he said "this isn't the same team that won the division last year". Did Wells give the finger to an umpire? I've totally blocked that out of my memory if it happened.

Yeah, Rooney had a big fit on the air. You know Rooney can get really angry at times. ANyways, David Wells accidentally gave a ball to the umpire after two houts. It was a game in Toronto. So after the ball flipping Rooney went beserk and said "I AM SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING THIS FROM THE WHITE SOX." For a normally mild-mannered guy, it was a shock

32nd&Wallace
05-18-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Baby Fisk
1997 - the organization gives up. It took me 3 years to recover (partially).

You know what I despised about White Flag was how it never really improved the team. The trades that were made didn't really prep us for 2000...The trades that we got were for Lorenzo Barcelo, Foulke and Bobby Howry. Yes, we had Foulke but its not as if he was a difference maker in 2000....Lorenzo Barcelo had potential, but had fallen of the radar map. Anyone remember what the Marlins record was at the break?

Grobber33
05-18-2004, 03:48 PM
Nothing can touch 1970. A Chicago record 106 losses,and they did'nt even draw a half million that season.
Perhaps one can make a argument for 1919,BUT at least they won the AL Pennent before they got revenge on Comiskey being a cheapskate. Among the 1970 team's best hitters was SID O'BRIEN. Nuff said!

JRIG
05-18-2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by 32nd&Wallace
You know what I despised about White Flag was how it never really improved the team. The trades that were made didn't really prep us for 2000...The trades that we got were for Lorenzo Barcelo, Foulke and Bobby Howry. Yes, we had Foulke but its not as if he was a difference maker in 2000....Lorenzo Barcelo had potential, but had fallen of the radar map. Anyone remember what the Marlins record was at the break?

Don't forget Ken Vining and Brian Manning!

Oh! And Spanky Caruso. The man who proved even I could hit .300 batting in front of Frank Thomas.

Dick Allen
05-18-2004, 04:06 PM
1970 was awful, but I was able to get good seats and actually saw some entertaining games. 1976 was rotten too, especially the uniforms.

BigEdWalsh
05-18-2004, 04:53 PM
My vote is for 1970, an absolutely dreadful team. Oddly though, it was one of my favorite years. I was recently out of high school and had little to do but go to games. I probably went to more games that year than ANY other year. I remember a September doubleheader on a rainy day when there were less than 1,000 in the stands. I used to try and figure the attendance by actually counting the people!
1970 should be hands down winner.

ChiWhiteSox1337
05-18-2004, 05:17 PM
Definately 1994 because of the strike that ended the white sox' great season

markp8867
05-18-2004, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by doublem23
1994.

Ours for the taking.

I agree about 1994. I still have two unused tickets from a game I never went to because of the strike. :angry:

batmanZoSo
05-18-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by markp8867
I agree about 1994. I still have two unused tickets from a game I never went to because of the strike. :angry:

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Dan H
05-18-2004, 05:51 PM
As bad as 1970 was, I pick 1968. The Sox actually started the year thinking they had a shot at the World Series. Then they lost the first ten games of the season. Joe Horlen, who won 19 in 1967, started with an 0-5 record. The team never recovered. They only hit 71 homers for the entire season. They were boring, even more boring than the 1970 big time losers. And the country lived through a terrible time with riots, assassinations and war. They tied for 8th in the last year of the one division-ten team league. There was nothing to cheer about, and the future appeared bleak. And the short term future turned out to be really bleak.

LauraJ14
05-18-2004, 06:41 PM
1977 was the first year where I really was into baseball so the 78 and 79 teams were not good although if I remember correctly we had an all lefty starting rotation at one point.

SoxOnTop
05-18-2004, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by 32nd&Wallace
You know what I despised about White Flag was how it never really improved the team. The trades that were made didn't really prep us for 2000...The trades that we got were for Lorenzo Barcelo, Foulke and Bobby Howry. Yes, we had Foulke but its not as if he was a difference maker in 2000....Lorenzo Barcelo had potential, but had fallen of the radar map. Anyone remember what the Marlins record was at the break?

You are right on point. And the look on Ventura's face nearly made me cry. '01 as well. Seeing the Frank and Pitching staff all go down was absolutely heartbreaking.

Welcome aboard, Walleye!!!!

misty60481
05-18-2004, 10:12 PM
When I was 11 years old in 1948 the Sox won 51 lost 101 I got to go to doubleheader with my dad & grandfather --big Sox fans--- I saw Feller beat Sox in 1st game and Satchel Paige pitched in relief in 2nd game Sox lost both Indians were great that year. Pat Seerey hit 4 homers in game that year. Sox best player was Luke Appling and he was over 40 there best pitcher was Bill Wight record was 9-20, talk about a bad season

TommyJohn
05-18-2004, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Grobber33
Nothing can touch 1970. A Chicago record 106 losses,and they did'nt even draw a half million that season.
Perhaps one can make a argument for 1919,BUT at least they won the AL Pennent before they got revenge on Comiskey being a cheapskate. Among the 1970 team's best hitters was SID O'BRIEN. Nuff said!

Revenge on Comiskey? How about they were just plain greedy
and got tossed from baseball like they deserved? I like that one
better.