View Full Version : The last good debut

05-13-2004, 05:14 PM
When was the last time a White Sox starter had an impressive debut? It seems our guys always get killed while other rookies always dominate us.

05-13-2004, 05:14 PM
Kip Wells

05-13-2004, 05:15 PM
I seem to remember Wilson Alvarez tossing a no-no in is debut...

05-13-2004, 05:20 PM
I remember the last five years any sox rookie who made their debut got hammered I remember Garland,Biddle,Wright,Cotts getting tatooed in their first few weeks in the majors. The only one I remember doing good was Mark Buerhle.

05-13-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by chisox1388
Kip Wells

Didn't Kip Wells pitch well his second time out, but got hit pretty well his first time out? Or maybe that was Garland.

05-13-2004, 05:43 PM
well what about the other way? What is the Sox record when they face a pitcher making his debut? It can't be good at all. I'm willing to bet it is a winning percentage lower than Royce Clayton's batting average

05-13-2004, 05:43 PM
Didn't Josh Stewart have a strong outing in his first start last year?

05-13-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Didn't Josh Stewart have a strong outing in his first start last year?

You know what, I think he did. Something like 7 innings with only a run given up. In fact, if I remember correctly, he had two or three good starts before he started struggling.

05-13-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by mantis1212
I seem to remember Wilson Alvarez tossing a no-no in is debut...

And I believe Roberto Hernandez threw 7 innings of no hit ball.

SD Scott 7
05-13-2004, 07:14 PM
Ken Hill? :)

05-13-2004, 07:15 PM
i think wells pitched so-so. he looked pretty good at times, had a little bad luck, and only pitched part way into the 5th. it wasn't glaring success of a start, but he actually looked pretty good. that was against detroit, right?

garland's first start sucked. I think that was on the 4th of july. I remember listening to the first few batters in the car on the way to a friend's house, and then an hour later, when we left to go downtown to watch fireworks, the sox were getting hammered.

pat daneker had a pretty good first start with the sox, and then he never did anything. john snyder had a good first start, except that he had gotten absolutely bombed a few days before that in a really short relief outing (against houston maybe? at the astrodome? i can't quite remember).

who was wright's first start against? It wasn't the start at Tampa where he had a no-hitter into the sixth inning but had like 6 walks, was it?

what'd parque do in his debut?

05-13-2004, 07:18 PM
Ricky Vaughn

Lip Man 1
05-13-2004, 07:19 PM
Garland made his first start in July 2000 at KC and got ripped apart.