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lowesox
05-13-2004, 05:14 PM
When was the last time a White Sox starter had an impressive debut? It seems our guys always get killed while other rookies always dominate us.

chisox1388
05-13-2004, 05:14 PM
Kip Wells

mantis1212
05-13-2004, 05:15 PM
I seem to remember Wilson Alvarez tossing a no-no in is debut...

chisoxfan79
05-13-2004, 05:20 PM
I remember the last five years any sox rookie who made their debut got hammered I remember Garland,Biddle,Wright,Cotts getting tatooed in their first few weeks in the majors. The only one I remember doing good was Mark Buerhle.

lowesox
05-13-2004, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by chisox1388
Kip Wells

Didn't Kip Wells pitch well his second time out, but got hit pretty well his first time out? Or maybe that was Garland.

illinibk
05-13-2004, 05:43 PM
well what about the other way? What is the Sox record when they face a pitcher making his debut? It can't be good at all. I'm willing to bet it is a winning percentage lower than Royce Clayton's batting average

hold2dibber
05-13-2004, 05:43 PM
Didn't Josh Stewart have a strong outing in his first start last year?

lowesox
05-13-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Didn't Josh Stewart have a strong outing in his first start last year?

You know what, I think he did. Something like 7 innings with only a run given up. In fact, if I remember correctly, he had two or three good starts before he started struggling.

Dub25
05-13-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by mantis1212
I seem to remember Wilson Alvarez tossing a no-no in is debut...

And I believe Roberto Hernandez threw 7 innings of no hit ball.

SD Scott 7
05-13-2004, 07:14 PM
Ken Hill? :)

Huisj
05-13-2004, 07:15 PM
i think wells pitched so-so. he looked pretty good at times, had a little bad luck, and only pitched part way into the 5th. it wasn't glaring success of a start, but he actually looked pretty good. that was against detroit, right?

garland's first start sucked. I think that was on the 4th of july. I remember listening to the first few batters in the car on the way to a friend's house, and then an hour later, when we left to go downtown to watch fireworks, the sox were getting hammered.

pat daneker had a pretty good first start with the sox, and then he never did anything. john snyder had a good first start, except that he had gotten absolutely bombed a few days before that in a really short relief outing (against houston maybe? at the astrodome? i can't quite remember).

who was wright's first start against? It wasn't the start at Tampa where he had a no-hitter into the sixth inning but had like 6 walks, was it?

what'd parque do in his debut?

SoxxoS
05-13-2004, 07:18 PM
Ricky Vaughn

Lip Man 1
05-13-2004, 07:19 PM
Garland made his first start in July 2000 at KC and got ripped apart.

Lip