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jabrch
05-10-2004, 04:24 PM
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Hondo
05-10-2004, 04:30 PM
Keep us updated

ChiWhiteSox1337
05-10-2004, 04:31 PM
I hope he elaborates on this "big announcement" :D:

ChiWhiteSox1337
05-10-2004, 04:41 PM
There will be some half price family nights. I forgot the actual dates, but one of them is vs the toons and one is vs the twins. I think there are more than that, but those were the only 2 that Brooks specifically mentioned.

Edit: I checked and I realized that the games he was mentioning were monday night games. D'oh! Sorry for the mess up

jabrch
05-10-2004, 04:44 PM
Faxes in

North - lower ticket prices for families
BB - we have family days

North - half price food and drink
BB -1$ dogs

North - get rid of parking lots make restaurants and bars
BB - can't create sustainable foottraffic to make it work - not a Sox issue - but a city of Chicago and an Alderman issue. But as the neighborhood keeps developing, retail will soon follow in the near term that will drive people to the neighborhiood

BROOKS TAKING CALLS

North - Get the players to sign balls to be used in the game. Game fielded foul balls with autographs would be cool
BB - sure - that's cool. I don't know if MLB would let us do it, because it is "doctoring ball" but its a good idea - I'll look at it.

North - Family upgrade night - randomly selected families of 4 get their seats at random upgraded to near dugout seats
BB - I did that same promotion with the Bulls and caldwell bankers "upgrade your realestate" and moved people from the rafters to the floor. We will look into this and find a partner.

North - 77 Hitman Reunion and other hitman reunion days
BB - We did the 25th reunion for 77 in 92 at soxfest. I'd like to do a 30th reunion for them in 2007.

jabrch
05-10-2004, 04:47 PM
Buffone - teach people how to take the train.
BB - I need your help to do it! The media can help this. great park, easy to get to from anywhere. Safe, lit, easy, great way to see the Sox.

Hondo
05-10-2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
Buffone - teach people how to take the train.
BB - I need your help to do it! The media can help this. great park, easy to get to from anywhere. Safe, lit, easy, great way to see the Sox.


Brooksy. I think that's asking too much

DMarte708
05-10-2004, 05:00 PM
(Missed Question 1)

Question 2 : Why isn't marketing concentrated more on Chicagoans, and not suburbs?

Brooks: He's attempting to reach out to more Chicago communities: including Chinatown.

Question 3 : Why not create a red throwback paying homage to the teams during the 70's?

Brooks: Not a concern this year, he plans on exploring the issue in the following years.

Question 4 : Why can't I move down to the lower level concourse when I'm in the UD?

Brooks: UD will become more fan friendly, but the policy will not change.

Question 5 : Create train stop at 35th on Rock Island

Brooks: He has no answer to why there isnt one, but he intends to look into the issue.

HomeFish
05-10-2004, 05:03 PM
Any specifics on how the UD will become more "fan friendly"? I saw that they put a speed-pitch booth in, but I'm not sure if there's all that much they can do to that end.

daveeym
05-10-2004, 05:03 PM
Signing the balls will be bad, will screw with hitters eyes and change how they pick up the spin on the ball (actually possibly in the hitter favor). SO it's still a pretty neat idea, but they sign the balls with some sorta invisable ink and then the kids can pick up a pen at the memorabilia store and have to search for the signature. However the sox would probably charge $10 for the pen.

SoxFan76
05-10-2004, 05:05 PM
I like this guys style. He didn't know a few questions, but the questions asked by North, he made him look stupid.

DMarte708
05-10-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by HomeFish
Any specifics on how the UD will become more "fan friendly"? I saw that they put a speed-pitch booth in, but I'm not sure if there's all that much they can do to that end.

Not really, he only made general statements about the UD becoming more friendly. Brooks devoted most of his answer to talking about "bad apples spoling the bunch" (of course relating to the fans running on the field), and said something about "respecting those who pay money for lower deck seats."

ChiWhiteSox1337
05-10-2004, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by HomeFish
Any specifics on how the UD will become more "fan friendly"? I saw that they put a speed-pitch booth in, but I'm not sure if there's all that much they can do to that end. They'll put a new fan deck on the roof or better yet, have a water slide from the UD to the lower deck! Honestly, I have no clue how they would make it just as fun as the LD. The fan deck is awesome and you can't put that up there in the UD. I do like how the Sox put up the historical stuff on the UD walls, but it doesn't make it better than the concourse experience in the LD.

pearso66
05-10-2004, 05:31 PM
They should allow people from the UD on the LD at least before the game, I love going through the Sox museum, and there is much more stuff available to buy in that store also, than the one in the UD. If not that, have another Sox museum in the UD. That's fun to go through at least once a year, I usually walk through it every time i go to a game.

ChiWhiteSox1337
05-10-2004, 05:40 PM
That's a pretty good idea, pearso. You should e-mail that one. I know if you REALLY convince the people in the UD, they'll send an escort to take you down to the HOF shop.

CubKilla
05-10-2004, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by daveeym
Signing the balls will be bad, will screw with hitters eyes and change how they pick up the spin on the ball (actually possibly in the hitter favor).

Agree 100%. Don't pre-sign balls. However.....

How about ushers or security give the lucky fans a card with the players name on it that hit the HR/foul ball and, after the game, the player who hit the HR/foul ball signs it. Sox players only unless the opposing players aren't remiss to cooperating for White Sox management. This would NOT apply to games where the White Sox leave town for a road trip immediately after the game ends.

That's doable I think.

SSN721
05-11-2004, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by pearso66
They should allow people from the UD on the LD at least before the game, I love going through the Sox museum, and there is much more stuff available to buy in that store also, than the one in the UD. If not that, have another Sox museum in the UD. That's fun to go through at least once a year, I usually walk through it every time i go to a game.

They would probably just say that there is no way they could make sure everyone with an UD ticket is out of the LD concourse by the time the game starts. This is the one policy I hate the most at the park. I somewhat understand the logic but only to a degree. The draconian nature of the rule I think is quite extreme.

Jerko
05-11-2004, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by SSN721
They would probably just say that there is no way they could make sure everyone with an UD ticket is out of the LD concourse by the time the game starts. This is the one policy I hate the most at the park. I somewhat understand the logic but only to a degree. The draconian nature of the rule I think is quite extreme.

Don't forget, when the park first opened, you could not even GET to the outfield concourse unless you had a ticket in an outfield section. They had big blue gates in the concourse at each foul line and they checked your stub right there, on the spot, every time you went in or out. That was 1000 times worse than the UD policy and I really wish everyone would quit whining about the UD policy before the locked gate policy starts again. If you want to go to the hall of fame ONCE a year, or the fan deck, pick a half price night and buy a lower deck seat. I had season tickets in the UD and to watch the game, it's not really that bad! Now my tix are in 158 and it DOES SUCK down there when there are 3000 more people standing around who don't "belong" there. Sorry but that's how it is.

LongLiveFisk
05-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by Jerko
Don't forget, when the park first opened, you could not even GET to the outfield concourse unless you had a ticket in an outfield section. They had big blue gates in the concourse at each foul line and they checked your stub right there, on the spot, every time you went in or out. That was 1000 times worse than the UD policy and I really wish everyone would quit whining about the UD policy before the locked gate policy starts again. If you want to go to the hall of fame ONCE a year, or the fan deck, pick a half price night and buy a lower deck seat. I had season tickets in the UD and to watch the game, it's not really that bad! Now my tix are in 158 and it DOES SUCK down there when there are 3000 more people standing around who don't "belong" there. Sorry but that's how it is.

Actually, the way it was set up was that you could get to the outfield section from the rest of the park but people who had bleacher seats (which were outfield seats, right and left field at the time) could NOT walk around the rest of the park. As you were attempting to leave the bleacher section they checked your ticket stub. Walking back into the bleacher section, ticket stubs were not checked. I remember this vividly because I bought a $6 bleacher seat (wish they still cost that!) and was mad that I could not see the rest of the park. I can't remember when they finally got rid of that system--maybe a year or two later?

Jerko
05-11-2004, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by LongLiveFisk
Actually, the way it was set up was that you could get to the outfield section from the rest of the park but people who had bleacher seats (which were outfield seats, right and left field at the time) could NOT walk around the rest of the park. As you were attempting to leave the bleacher section they checked your ticket stub. Walking back into the bleacher section, ticket stubs were not checked. I remember this vividly because I bought a $6 bleacher seat (wish they still cost that!) and was mad that I could not see the rest of the park. I can't remember when they finally got rid of that system--maybe a year or two later?

Well, I remember not being able to get IN to that area too, maybe it was a year later. Either way, the UD policy is nowhere near as restrictive or annoying as those days were and I just hope it doesn't get back to that with all the UD policy backlash going on.

pinwheels3530
05-11-2004, 12:15 PM
I have no problem with the ud policy I have season tickets up there and I can walk the main concourse down stairs, go to the hall of fame gift shop, and the fan deck, that's a benefit given to season ticket holders. All sox fans are doing by complaining about this policy is making it seem like the ud is bad place to watch the game, WHICH IT IS NOT! They fixed the roof it feels more intimate up there like a real ballpark so sit up there. If you want lower deck then by a ticket for the lower deck, The perception sox fans help give the ud is wrong (" I won't sit up there cause blah, blah, blah blah, blah" ) Then we wonder why people won't go to games.

KingXerxes
05-11-2004, 12:20 PM
I heard some of this guy on the radio and I have to tell you that I really think he's going down the right path.

The biggest thing that struck me was the fact that he wants to create a sort of neighborhood identity about the White Sox.

HALLEJULAH!!!!!!!!!!

Finally, and I mean finally, they have someone who has noticed that this team has totally squandered its identity from years past. I have said it before, and I'll say it again, we have become known more as the "anti-Cubs" than we have the White Sox.

Build an identity, and quit looking over your shoulder all the time. My hope is that Reinsdorf (quite the shoulder looker over) let's this guy try it.

NonetheLoaiza
05-11-2004, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by daveeym
Signing the balls will be bad, will screw with hitters eyes and change how they pick up the spin on the ball (actually possibly in the hitter favor). SO it's still a pretty neat idea, but they sign the balls with some sorta invisable ink and then the kids can pick up a pen at the memorabilia store and have to search for the signature. However the sox would probably charge $10 for the pen.

they could just do it to the batting practice balls. i dont know if that is a problem or not, but it seems like a cool idea.

maurice
05-11-2004, 01:33 PM
I agree with a lot of what he said, but this part is just plain wrong:

North - get rid of parking lots make restaurants and bars
BB - can't create sustainable foottraffic to make it work - not a Sox issue - but a city of Chicago and an Alderman issue.

It IS a Sox issue and NOT a Chicago issue. It's literally impossible to open a business within two blocks of 35th / Shields, because all the real estate is question is the property of Sox ownership or the State. JR intentionally made the surrounding area barren to wipe out potential competition, and he's taking a beating at the gate as a result. He's convinced the State to make numerous "improvements" to the park while ignoring the major issue.

More "sustainable foottraffic" is inevitable, as more condo residents move into the area and take the Red Line to work. This is particularly true if the proposed "restaurants and bars" were contained in new, mixed-use buildings.

The Sox need to wake up, stop copping out ("can't create"), and fix their mistake.

hose
05-11-2004, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by maurice
I agree with a lot of what he said, but this part is just plain wrong:



It IS a Sox issue and NOT a Chicago issue. It's literally impossible to open a business within two blocks of 35th / Shields, because all the real estate is question is the property of Sox ownership or the State. JR intentionally made the surrounding area barren to wipe out potential competition, and he's taking a beating at the gate as a result. He's convinced the State to make numerous "improvements" to the park while ignoring the major issue.

More "sustainable foottraffic" is inevitable, as more condo residents move into the area and take the Red Line to work. This is particularly true if the proposed "restaurants and bars" were contained in new, mixed-use buildings.

The Sox need to wake up, stop copping out ("can't create"), and fix their mistake.



Maurice did you happen to read about La Grou Cold Storage at 2101 W. Pershing ?

A possible 440 condos and 92 townhomes could go up. This would only help Bridgeport's housing value.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-storage11.html

joecrede
05-11-2004, 05:05 PM
Check the following out to get an idea of the development that's going on in Bridgeport and what is planned. It's quite impressive.

Link (http://www.bridgeportvillage.com/)

batmanZoSo
05-11-2004, 05:19 PM
That looks very nice. Hopefully this stuff keeps spreading towards the park.

hose
05-11-2004, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by joecrede
Check the following out to get an idea of the development that's going on in Bridgeport and what is planned. It's quite impressive.

Link (http://www.bridgeportvillage.com/)


WOW!!!!

maurice
05-11-2004, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by batmanZoSo
Hopefully this stuff keeps spreading towards the park.

Actually, with the possible exception of Bridgeport Village, the highest property values are nearest the park (particularly the big, new houses along Parnell and Normal) and spreading outwards. The Sun-Times article explains that the proposed McKinley Park condo development and other projects along Pershing were conceived because rising property values have pushed people out of Bridgeport and into neighboring communities.

hose
05-11-2004, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by maurice
Actually, with the possible exception of Bridgeport Village, the highest property values are nearest the park (particularly the big, new houses along Parnell and Normal) and spreading outwards. The Sun-Times article explains that the proposed McKinley Park condo development and other projects along Pershing were conceived because rising property values have pushed people out of Bridgeport and into neighboring communities.


hmmmm...... Not sure of the name , but that housing project just south of the Cell, with the old 2 story units ....what do you think the chances of the land being redeveloped?

batmanZoSo
05-11-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by maurice
Actually, with the possible exception of Bridgeport Village, the highest property values are nearest the park (particularly the big, new houses along Parnell and Normal) and spreading outwards. The Sun-Times article explains that the proposed McKinley Park condo development and other projects along Pershing were conceived because rising property values have pushed people out of Bridgeport and into neighboring communities.

Well I don't live there like you, but coming from the West on 35th it wasn't too nice. We would get great crowds if the area was more like the BV. I hope it keeps improving, it will be huge for the Sox. It doesn't seem like too many in the neighb walk to games like they used to.

maurice
05-11-2004, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by hose
Not sure of the name , but that housing project just south of the Cell, with the old 2 story units ....what do you think the chances of the land being redeveloped?

Wentworth Gardens is not likely to be "redeveloped" any time soon. It's low-rise, low-crime property with only about 300 residents. The CHA is focusing on fixing up this type of property while demolishing the more dangerous high-rises (e.g., Stateway Gardens, Robert Taylor, etc.):

Mixed-Income Redevelopment

In replacing the high-rises, the CHA is rebuilding on the same land. In every other way, we’re charting new ground. We are creating new mixed-income communities with contemporary town homes and low-rise buildings, where public housing residents will live in the same neighborhood as people who purchase market rate and affordable homes. Generally, these developments will consist of one-third public housing, one-third affordable housing and one-third market rate homes.

Rehabbed Family Properties

The CHA’s housing inventory also includes several other family properties that are scheduled for a comprehensive rehabilitation under the Plan for Transformation. Both the exterior and interior of these units will be renovated at these locations.

Linky (http://www.thecha.org/transformplan/plan_summary.html)

maurice
05-11-2004, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by batmanZoSo
coming from the West on 35th it wasn't too nice.

The Pershing and 35th St. corridors are mostly comprised of old, decayed industrial buildings, most of which still need to be rehabbed or replaced. (31st St. is more commercial.) From 35th St., walk North or South on the side streets (especially Parnell and Normal), and you'll see the heart of the residential redevelopment which typically precedes commercial redevelopment.