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soxwon
04-17-2004, 09:17 PM
who in your stellar opinions are

baseballs greatest leadoff men?

and

the best white sox leadoff man- ever

JRIG
04-17-2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by soxwon
who in your stellar opinions are

baseballs greatest leadoff men?

and

the best white sox leadoff man- ever

Rickey Henderson, no doubt.

And the greatest leadoff hitter to play for the Sox is Tim Raines.

Nick@Nite
04-17-2004, 09:27 PM
Of all time? Rickey Henderson.

Saracen
04-17-2004, 09:28 PM
Rickey Henderson/Tim Raines

lowesox
04-17-2004, 09:39 PM
I think most would agree on Henderson. A good question would be, the best in baseball now.

Nick@Nite
04-17-2004, 09:41 PM
... but if he did, then I'd say Eddie Collins.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/stats_historical/cws_individual_stats_player.jsp?playerID=112506

batmanZoSo
04-17-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by soxwon
who in your stellar opinions are

baseballs greatest leadoff men?

and

the best white sox leadoff man- ever

Tim Raines. Screw Henderson.

.294 hitter, .385 on-base, 808 steals

1987: .330 18 68 .429 obp 50 steals.

Railsplitter
04-17-2004, 10:52 PM
Was Nellie Fox a lead off man? If so, he deserves consiuderation for the Sox.

idseer
04-17-2004, 10:55 PM
ok ... i'll say it. aparicio was the best leadoff hitter the sox ever had. pitchers were scared to death he'd get on, and when he did he shook up opposing pitchers as much as any runner i've ever seen.

Randar68
04-17-2004, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by idseer
ok ... i'll say it. aparicio was the best leadoff hitter the sox ever had. pitchers were scared to death he'd get on, and when he did he shook up opposing pitchers as much as any runner i've ever seen.

Did Ty Cobb bat first most of the time???

TornLabrum
04-17-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Did Ty Cobb bat first most of the time???

Cobb hit cleanup.

ChiSoxFann
04-17-2004, 11:27 PM
how did Boggs hit when he was batting leadoff?

WinningUgly!
04-17-2004, 11:46 PM
Pete Rose.

Rudy Law gets my Sox vote.

voodoochile
04-17-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!
Pete Rose.

Rudy Law gets my Sox vote.

Shocking.... :D:

I have no idea how a guy with a screen name like WinningUgly! would pick Rudy Law.

BTW, I concur. :)

But not with the Rose choice. Henderson is the man...

WinningUgly!
04-18-2004, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Shocking.... :D:

I have no idea how a guy with a screen name like WinningUgly! would pick Rudy Law.

Yeah, go figure. :D:


BTW, I concur. :)

But not with the Rose choice. Henderson is the man...

Henderson is the obvious #1 leadoff hitter of all time, followed by Rose, Raines & Bobby Dernier.

Paulwny
04-18-2004, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Did Ty Cobb bat first most of the time???


From articles I've read, similar to the link, Cobb led off enough times that many consider him the greatest lead off hitter.

From the baseball library:
Ty Cobb was the greatest lead-off hitter in baseball history. It must be granted that Cobb did not always lead off, but he did so enough in his 24-year career that he qualifies as a leadoff hitter.

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/submit/Friend_Harold5.stm

Cubbiesuck13
04-18-2004, 12:57 PM
i dont know about players before I was born, but within my life time of being a thinking sox fan, I am going to say my favorite was one dog! lanch johnson.

Wsoxmike59
04-18-2004, 06:41 PM
I too would go with Rickey Henderson for all time best lead off hitter.

For the Sox I'd go with Luis Aparicio. Just rounding off some stats here because I don't feel like going to look them up.

Aparicio amassed 2600 hits in his career, led the league in stolen bases 11 times. That's getting the job done in an era dominated by pitching.

soxnut
04-19-2004, 12:15 AM
Rickey Henderson--no doubt about it.

hempsox
04-19-2004, 02:35 AM
"Rickey knows that you foolin' when you talk 'bout others bein' tha greatest leadoff man. 'Cause Rickey got it all...Rickey hit the most HR by a leadoff man...Rickey have the most SB ever...Rickey have the most walks and during Rickey time, Rickey was the most disruptive part of the game. Most of all nobody talk about Rickey like Rickey."

During my life as a Sox fan...Tim Raines

bennyw41
04-19-2004, 09:54 AM
Bottom line. If you have to ask "did this person bat first?" then they are not the best leadoff hitter in baseball history. Many of you started your posts that way, and I think its telling.

doublem23
04-19-2004, 02:21 PM
Willie Mays Hayes