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patbooyah
04-16-2004, 04:59 PM
the one thing that i miss about day games are that they helped me kill time at work- i knew when i saw the "official" thread it was almost time to go....


so heres to some wishful thinking.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 05:48 PM
2B- Harris
CF- Perez
RF- Ordonez
DH- Thomas
LF- Lee
1B- Konerko
3B- Crede
SS- Uribe
C- Olivo

ukigdog
04-16-2004, 05:52 PM
where is the easiest place to find out the starting lineups for a game, like how did you find out so early the lineup. For my fantasy teams i would like to know. Thanks

Saracen
04-16-2004, 05:55 PM
I like playing Uribe & Harris and giving Manos the day off. I guess this is the speed lineup.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by ukigdog
where is the easiest place to find out the starting lineups for a game, like how did you find out so early the lineup. For my fantasy teams i would like to know. Thanks

Go to Yahoo! Sports. They usually have the lineups posted well before the game starts.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 05:58 PM
Anyone else really excited to possibly see Danny Baez today?

fquaye149
04-16-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
2B- Harris
CF- Perez
RF- Ordonez
DH- Thomas
LF- Lee
1B- Konerko
3B- Crede
SS- Uribe
C- Olivo


is it just me, or should this lineup or a reasonable fascimile of it (rowand at CF and Valentin at SS most days) be our everyday lineup?

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Anyone else really excited to possibly see Danny Baez today?

I don't know. I haven't thought about it, yet.

chisoxmike
04-16-2004, 06:06 PM
I'm going to be at work at 6:45. I am very interested to see how the Sox handle the D-Rays, and if S.S. will be able to have a good outing.

GO SOX!!!!!

chisoxmike
04-16-2004, 06:08 PM
Oops! Dan Wright is on the bump. Still, would like to see how he does in his outing.

SoxBoy14
04-16-2004, 06:10 PM
When's Shceonweis's next start?

chisoxmike
04-16-2004, 06:11 PM
When's Shceonweis's next start?

Tomorrow. :(:

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:24 PM
I really don't like the idea of no Jose vs righties. Jose has been in a nice little groove.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:26 PM
The Sox threaten but do not score in the first.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by balboner
I really don't like the idea of no Jose vs righties. Jose has been in a nice little groove.

I agree with that. Sit him against a lefty, although he has been hitting them well too...

Cal Ripken played in over 2,500 straight games, and Jose needs a rest after 10... :?:

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:28 PM
Danny Wrong sucks. Oh my God.

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:28 PM
Ugh, I hate Danny Wright. He's not a winner, and never will be.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:28 PM
Danny Wrong...

HR Crawford - 1-0 Tampa Bay.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:29 PM
1-0 Carl Crawford...AKA SoxKilla...Solo shot...

I see it. All of WSI sees it. The media sees it.

DANNY WRIGHT IS NOT A STARTER!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:30 PM
I always feel like we're gonna lose when Danny Wrong pitches....

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:30 PM
Robert Fick... :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:33 PM
1-0 D-Rays after one. Wright is worthless.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:34 PM
I was just looking over some of my old posts about Danny Wrong, and here is my favorite-

Danny Wright should not start another game in a White Sox uniform.

Everyone says his stuff is "nasty" but I have yet to see that. I see no control, a decent fastball that isnt that great, and a decent knuckle curve that he never gets over. He sucks.

That is from the Sept. 25th thread against the Royals.

soxtalker
04-16-2004, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
1-0 D-Rays after one. Wright is worthless.

Wasn't it 1-0 KC after Buerhle's first inning yesterday?

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:36 PM
We've never been able to hit Paul Abbott. He gave us hell when he was with Seattle.

hempsox
04-16-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
Robert Fick... :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

This is the same way that I feel about this guy everytime I hear his name. I won't even take him on my fantasy teams

Fick rhymes with BEEP

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:38 PM
Is Joe Crede going to get a hit this season or...

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:39 PM
Abbott has pretty much thrown nothing but breaking balls.

I don't like this at all...

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:40 PM
1-2-3 go the Sox in the second.

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:41 PM
I fear that Ozzie is going to fall in love with playing Uribe too much. Against lefties is one thing, but I don't like him facing a righty like he is tonight. This is an important game, cause I dont like our chances tomorrow.

Daver
04-16-2004, 06:42 PM
:takeittochat

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Daver
:takeittochat

Not this again...

hempsox
04-16-2004, 06:45 PM
chat doesn't work here behind the Deere firewall...sorry daver.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:46 PM
Wrong can't throw strikes, as usual.

Oh man I'm tired of this idiot.

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:46 PM
For the love of god, will the Sox please realize that Wright is not a MLB starter! He's one of the worst starters in baseball.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:47 PM
Get Wright off the damn team! NOW!

Saracen
04-16-2004, 06:47 PM
Good Lord, this guy sucks.

South Side
04-16-2004, 06:48 PM
This is not sounding good at all... I can't watch it today. Is he throwing any strikes?

Daver
04-16-2004, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
Not this again...

What?

Again?

chisox06
04-16-2004, 06:48 PM
Ive seen guys suck before, but Dan Wright SUCKS!!

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:48 PM
Will the Sox win any game this year that's not started by Buehrle, Loaiza, or Garland?

hempsox
04-16-2004, 06:49 PM
3-0 count and he took it deep????

Wow! I never would have guessed that Danny would grove something over a strike after walking one...

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:50 PM
Send Wright to AAA.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:50 PM
3-0 Tampa after two.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:51 PM
Rauch has made 2 quality starts in AAA...one more and he better get on the bus up here...

Or start Cotts. Either or. I have had enough.

South Side
04-16-2004, 06:52 PM
Ok so it's established our pitching sucks today. They better start hitting.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:53 PM
I think every hitter has been down in the count except Willie.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 06:55 PM
I like Willie's approach...he is thinking opposite way every AB...

Good job, Willie.

hempsox
04-16-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
I think every hitter has been down in the count except Willie.

Thomas walked. Was he behind in the count before doing this?

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:56 PM
Anytime the Sox want to try to get singles is fine with me. The guys have the worst uppercut swings I've seen outside of the other team in Chicago.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:57 PM
Willie Harris with our only 2 hits after 3? Hmmmmmm....

Cy Abbott anyone?

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:57 PM
The Sox do nothing in the third. Moving on...

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:58 PM
Maggs needs to stop swinging for the fences. Steinbrenner might not want him if he keeps popping up.

balboner
04-16-2004, 06:58 PM
Show some freaking heart Danny!!

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 06:58 PM
Danny Wrong bobbles an easy bunt right back to him.

Wrong is the best player on the D-Rays.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 06:59 PM
Wright sucks. He just sucks. That's all there is to say about him.

eurotrash35
04-16-2004, 07:00 PM
he gone!

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:00 PM
I hope Wright gets sent down after this game. He doesn't deserve to play for a Major League team.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:02 PM
On second thought, Wright doesn't even deserve to be in Triple-A. I know of a few Little League teams that use a right-handed pitcher.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
I hope Wright gets sent down after this game. He doesn't deserve to play for a Major League team.

And the problem is that he eventually is going to have a good start, then people think that he has "broken through" even though he just got lucky that particular day.

Either long relief, or AAA.

eurotrash35
04-16-2004, 07:05 PM
Is Abbot's curve really that hard to hit? It doesn't look like it's dropping THAT much.

Daver
04-16-2004, 07:05 PM
I repeat.


:takeittochat

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:06 PM
Frank and Willie are the only ones who seem to know what's going on. Everyone else looks lost up there.

eurotrash35
04-16-2004, 07:06 PM
Looks like Carlos' at-bat answered my question.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:07 PM
Abbott gets every curve over for a strike. We are in trouble if that continues.

inta
04-16-2004, 07:08 PM
man, aside from willie harris this team's playing a little corpsey tonight, no?

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by A.T. Money
Abbott gets every curve over for a strike. We are in trouble if that continues.

DJ said before the game that he usually dominates early, then we get to him b/c he starts getting balls up.

We need to hold them at 3 runs, though.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:08 PM
We are the Chicago Pop Ups!

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:09 PM
:corpseball

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:09 PM
I was just wondering when we are going to stop swinging for the fences...

cough...CREDE...cough.

My gosh, it's so damn obvious.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by inta
man, aside from willie harris this team's playing a little corpsey tonight, no?

It could be....

It might be...

IT IS!!!!!!

:corpseball

eurotrash35
04-16-2004, 07:11 PM
rofl @ corpseball

eurotrash35
04-16-2004, 07:13 PM
I'm guessing this isn't considered a quality start by Wright?

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:13 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOO!

JGarlandrules20
04-16-2004, 07:17 PM
No...not Shingo...

He's warming up. :(:

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:17 PM
That was PERFECT!!!

That ball should have been lined down the line, instead right into Konerko's glove. The ball was still killed.

Get Cotts in there.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:18 PM
Instead of Cotts, they are warming up Shingo. In a 3 run game.

Are you kidding?

And Carlos Lee just saves a run with a webgem.

ndgt10
04-16-2004, 07:21 PM
Hey Soxxos, a question...

What does that "2-1 in the 40 games that matter to hawk" mean?

mantis1212
04-16-2004, 07:21 PM
Yeah I don't get the Shingo thing- is he stretched out for long relief, and no one knows it? doesn't make any sense

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:23 PM
For those of you interested, the Red Sox are killing the Yankees in Boston. It's 3-0 in the first. Bill Mueller and Manny Ramirez have homered off of Vasquez.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by ndgt10
Hey Soxxos, a question...

What does that "2-1 in the 40 games that matter to hawk" mean?

Hawk said that every team wins 60 and loses 60. In other words, if Loiaza is going against Jimmy Gobble, that is a game we should win. If Wright is going against my Grandma, that is a game we are going to lose. It's what happens in the remaining 40 that count...the "big games"

Opening day was a "loss" on the count. Coming back 2 days ago when Koch blew it, that was a "win." The other one was against the Yanks, I believe.

ndgt10
04-16-2004, 07:26 PM
Thanks SoxxoS...In other words, tonights game won't count in the "40".

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:26 PM
I never thought I would say this...but I miss Jose Valentin.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:27 PM
Vasquez has NOTHING on Cy Abbott.

This is pathetic.

Our offensive approach is hosed for this game. Ozzie needs to call a team meeting here, we only have 12 outs to work with now.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by ndgt10
Thanks SoxxoS...In other words, tonights game won't count in the "40".

Correct. This game was a loss coming in, in my book. If we come back from a big deficit, it could be part of the 40 b/c "big comebacks" and some one run games qualify as well.

It doesn't look like any comebacks are happening, as we are facing the reincarnation of Cy Young, apparently.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:29 PM
This is pathetic.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:29 PM
BTW, it's 4-0 Boston. Jeter just committed an error.

Brian26
04-16-2004, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Hawk said that every team wins 60 and loses 60.

Just for the record, as much as I love him, Hawkeroo didn't invent this little axiom.

I heard Lasorda say this to Coppock 17 years ago, and I'm fairly certain Lasorda didn't create it either.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:30 PM
On a good note, Cleveland is beating Detroit 3-1. I want to stay in 1st for as long as possible, I don't care if it means rooting against Detroit.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Honestly, if a pitcher has trouble getting Rey Sanchez out, then he needs to go.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:33 PM
:corpseball

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:33 PM
Best defensive effort...EVER

Danny Wright better take the team out to dinner after the game.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:36 PM
Not for anything, but Baldelli isn't an easy walk...He walked 30 times last year in 637 at-bats.

voodoochile
04-16-2004, 07:39 PM
Is there some particlular reason you guys don't like the chat room? Just curious. We are trying to push people that way and it has been much livelier this year.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:39 PM
Cotts is in, but he can't throw a strike.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:39 PM
I can't get in on this computer I rarely use...

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:40 PM
Come on Cotts, I have confidence in you...trust your stuff.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:40 PM
The bases are loaded. This is awful.

Brian26
04-16-2004, 07:40 PM
DJ says Cotts doesn't like pitching to lefthanders.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
DJ says Cotts doesn't like pitching to lefthanders.

Good thing Ozzie brought him in to face 2 lefties in a row.

Brian26
04-16-2004, 07:42 PM
Nice job Cotts.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:42 PM
No worries.

Can we score, now? Please.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:45 PM
Maggs not very patient today....

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:45 PM
Frank's on base again.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 07:46 PM
Carlos Lee is due, I am calling a homer here.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:48 PM
We're thinking too much about homers. This was the Manuel philosophy.

It's time to start racking up hits with some singles...

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Carlos Lee is due, I am calling a homer here.

Carlos has cooled off considerably since the first few games of the season. I hope he can get it going again.

A.T. Money
04-16-2004, 07:50 PM
We're seeing last year's results with all these long swings....

I don't care to see this kind of play. I thought we were going to get past this.

Isn't it amazing how much our hitting changes away from Chicago?

MRKARNO
04-16-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by A.T. Money
We're seeing last year's results with all these long swings....

I don't care to see this kind of play. I thought we were going to get past this.

Isn't it amazing how much our hitting changes away from Chicago?

We hit 10 homers in the bronx and in KC. I dont know what it is, but maybe this dome is depressing as hell to play in.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:55 PM
AHHHHHHH!

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:55 PM
Johnny Damon looks like Al Borland.

Saracen
04-16-2004, 07:55 PM
I think this crappy stadium and lackadaisical crowd suck the lifeforce out of the Sox every time they visit.

patbooyah
04-16-2004, 07:57 PM
today is the day my signature earns the respect it deserves.

nice strike out, shingo!

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 07:57 PM
He gone!

soxtalker
04-16-2004, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by A.T. Money
We're seeing last year's results with all these long swings....

I don't care to see this kind of play. I thought we were going to get past this.

Isn't it amazing how much our hitting changes away from Chicago?

It could just be that we are facing a pitcher who is having a very good night. However, I wonder if it indicates problems with off-speed pitching, which we did have last year.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:00 PM
If the Sox can at least get into the Tampa bullpen, they might have a chance.

patbooyah
04-16-2004, 08:02 PM
sox pitchers have thrown 105 pitches.

abbott just threw his 82.

take some time up there, guys!

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:02 PM
Crede is getting on my nerves. I thought he'd moved past this.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:03 PM
Uribe at least has been fouling off pitches, making Abbott work. Why can't the other guys do that?

HawkDJ
04-16-2004, 08:04 PM
Ok who replaced Ozzie Guillen with Jerry Manuel?

delben91
04-16-2004, 08:05 PM
Man, just got back guys and this game looks pretty brutal. Is it the Sox playing badly, or could it just be Abbot having a great night?

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:05 PM
Six outs left.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:06 PM
:jerry

"I'm back! Now, we're going to swing for the fences and play station-to-station baseball. And I'm going to tinker with the lineup every single day."

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:08 PM
Where is Lord Vader? Someone needs to be held responsible for this mess.

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/daver/darth.jpg

"What is thy bidding?"

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:09 PM
He gone!

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 08:10 PM
Shingo looks good.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:11 PM
Abbott out; Trever Miller in.

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
Abbott out; Trever Miller in.

And the heavens opened...

patbooyah
04-16-2004, 08:12 PM
i take it nobody is going to be joining the shingo fan club....

Nard
04-16-2004, 08:16 PM
Send Shingo to the minors!!

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 08:18 PM
Outstanding AB by Rowand. Jeremy Reed my foot!

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 08:20 PM
No fear guys. Danny Baez is coming in the 9th. I say the chances of us coming back are about 20%, so all is not lost.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:21 PM
Oh, no! Koch...

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 08:22 PM
Not that Koch is in, our chances of coming back went from 20 to .5%.

patbooyah
04-16-2004, 08:23 PM
you heard it from hawk: "good job by shingo."

i'm telling you people!

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 08:23 PM
We got Show against Zambrano...Im not looking forward to that.

Frankfan4life
04-16-2004, 08:26 PM
LET'S GO SOX!!

SCORE SOME F-IN RUNS!!!!!!!

Get some basehits, homeruns, SOMETHING!

PUHLEEZE!!

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:27 PM
Carlos walks. Konerko up.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:29 PM
Let's go Sox! Let's go Sox! Let's go Sox! Let's go Sox! Let's go Sox!

patbooyah
04-16-2004, 08:30 PM
lets hope ozzie does a better job of "energizing" this team tomorrow.

RKMeibalane
04-16-2004, 08:30 PM
:walnuts

"I'm a lean, mean, double-play-hitting machine."

Blueprint1
04-16-2004, 08:35 PM
LETS BLAME THE HITTING FOR THIS LOSS. maybe tomorrow we can put in our best lineup. If ozzy plays this lineup get really for more of the same tomorrow.

Frankfan4life
04-16-2004, 08:36 PM
I really hate losing! :whiner:

HawkDJ
04-16-2004, 08:36 PM
:corpseball

It's back!

patbooyah
04-16-2004, 08:45 PM
one things for sure- at least the shingo fan club has reason to celebrate tonight.

Corlose 15
04-16-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by patbooyah
one things for sure- at least the shingo fan club has reason to celebrate tonight.

His era went from 18.00 to 6.10 tonight.

Anyone else notice that Koch can get a 1-2-3 inning when he's down 3 runs, but not when he's up by that many?

SoxxoS
04-16-2004, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Corlose 15
His era went from 18.00 to 6.10 tonight.

Anyone else notice that Koch can get a 1-2-3 inning when he's down 3 runs, but not when he's up by that many?

I think we found a role for him...

Lip Man 1
04-16-2004, 09:52 PM
Things we found out tonight....

The Sox can't beat Paul (Hey!) Abbott even with a rebuilt arm. Haven't won a game against him since 2000.

Danny is still 'I Can't Pitch' Wright.

Tampa Bay gave the Sox fits last year and that's holding true to form so far.

Sox are 0-2 in games started by the 5th starter. I'll keep a running total this season. Hope it's better then last year I think Phil Rogers said the Sox were 5-11 in 5th starter games in 2003.

Lip