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ma_deuce
04-07-2004, 09:22 AM
Weather Update

From Yahoo Weather:

Cloudy with a few showers. High 74F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 30%.

From Weather Channel:

Few showers early in the day, but it should let up by 2 or 3 pm. (http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USMO0460)

Any early predictions on possible "picks to click?"

Deuce

DrummerGeorgefan
04-07-2004, 09:43 AM
I'd have to go with those rain showers about in the 6th inning with a sox lead as my pick to click...i dont want the game to go the pen again

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by DrummerGeorgefan
I'd have to go with those rain showers about in the 6th inning with a sox lead as my pick to click...i dont want the game to go the pen again Lol, not a bad strategy.

batmanZoSo
04-07-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by ma_deuce
Weather Update

From Yahoo Weather:

Cloudy with a few showers. High 74F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 30%.

From Weather Channel:

Few showers early in the day, but it should let up by 2 or 3 pm. (http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USMO0460)

Any early predictions on possible "picks to click?"

Deuce

That can't be Chicago's forecast. I had all the winders open from last night and I woke up and had to reattach my fingers. Well, it's not that cold, but it's colder.

Carlos Lee's gonna hit a bomb off May today.

kittle42
04-07-2004, 11:10 AM
My pick to click is whoever on the Royals that has fewer career home runs than Mendy Lopez.

ma_deuce
04-07-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by batmanZoSo
That can't be Chicago's forecast.

Its not. Its the game day forecast for the KC/Sox game in KC.

By the way, my pick to click is the Carlos Lee.

Deuce

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by ma_deuce
Its not. Its the game day forecast for the KC/Sox game in KC.

By the way, my pick to click is the Carlos Lee.

Deuce I'm not sure how it works, but you may want to put that in the Picks to Click thread. I don't know if you need to in order to get credit or not?

Fisk72
04-07-2004, 11:33 AM
The pitching will be back on track, along with the hitting again. The Sox will win and the scrubs will lose - it will be a perfect day!

chisoxmike
04-07-2004, 12:52 PM
The pitching will be back on track, along with the hitting again. The Sox will win and the scrubs will lose - it will be a perfect day!

Very bold... but I like it! :D:

IlliniSox
04-07-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Fisk72
The pitching will be back on track, along with the hitting again. The Sox will win and the scrubs will lose - it will be a perfect day!

I love it too, Maddux gets rocked a la last April and the Hurt starts it with a 3-run BAWB.

ChiSoxJay
04-07-2004, 01:03 PM
I'm predicting a White Sox win coupled with a Maddux beatdown. :D:

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 01:18 PM
Let's go fellas -- nail down a win so everybody can relax. :cool:

fhqwhgads
04-07-2004, 01:28 PM
:D: Go Sox! :D:

MRKARNO
04-07-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by fhqwhgads
:D: Go Sox! :D:

As they say, the enemy of my enemy is my enemy. :)

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 01:45 PM
Rowand owns this guy Mays.

SSN721
04-07-2004, 01:45 PM
GO E-Lo

Brian26
04-07-2004, 01:48 PM
Levine and Wills wish Ozzie would have taken Cliff out after the 8th and let Koch start the 9th. Levine challenges anyone to find a World Series champion over the past 15 years who didn't have a bullpen with a true closer.

SoxxoS
04-07-2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Levine and Wills wish Ozzie would have taken Cliff out after the 8th and let Koch start the 9th. Levine challenges anyone to find a World Series champion over the past 15 years who didn't have a bullpen with a true closer.

That is why we are going to be trading for one in July. :D:

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:10 PM
Sox Starting Line-up

Uribe 2B
Valenine SS
Ordonez RF
Thomas DH
Lee LF
Konerko 1B
Crede 3B
Rownad CF
Olive C

Loiza SP

Mickster
04-07-2004, 02:11 PM
So much for Lee batting 2 against lefties.....

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 02:12 PM
Good to see our lead off hitter go after the first pitch...gotta love that!

SoxxoS
04-07-2004, 02:12 PM
Valentin doesn't look very comfortable. 0-4 with 4 K's against lefties.

Dadawg_77
04-07-2004, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Levine and Wills wish Ozzie would have taken Cliff out after the 8th and let Koch start the 9th. Levine challenges anyone to find a World Series champion over the past 15 years who didn't have a bullpen with a true closer.

Last year's Marlins. Plus it doesn't mean you need a true closer, just every team has copied the closer, because everyone was doing it.

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 02:13 PM
Uribe grounds out to begin the mayhem.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:14 PM
Way to help us out Graffy, E-5. Maggs on first.

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 02:14 PM
Take that Tony G.

cheeses_h_rice
04-07-2004, 02:14 PM
Is Jose paying homage to Sham-ME* this season? That's his 4th K in 2 games!

fhqwhgads
04-07-2004, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Way to help us out Graffy, E-5. Maggs on first.

If I were a Royals fan, I'd be insulted by his defense

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 02:16 PM
Tony "Da Beak" Graffinino with the error, I am glad we didn't keep that guy.

Hurt better hurt this ball!

JRIG
04-07-2004, 02:17 PM
I said it Monday, I'll say it again today -- I love watching Frank Thomas at bats.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:18 PM
Frank just missed a homer by a foot (foul ball), damn!

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 02:18 PM
Well he hurt it...it was gone!!! But foul, so here comes an out now

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:20 PM
Frank is seriously working Mayes. He's probably made him throw 12 pitches thus far.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Frank is seriously working Mayes. He's probably made him throw 12 pitches thus far.

Exactly! So far.

fhqwhgads
04-07-2004, 02:21 PM
9 straight fouls...who does he think he is, A.J. Pierzynski?

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Frank is seriously working Mayes. He's probably made him throw 12 pitches thus far.

It is up to 13, the next will be 14...but DJ and Hawk are calling for an out now because Pena made a trip to the mound.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:22 PM
Pena is going out to talk with Mayes. That's a first - Scoreless inning with two outs and the manager goes out to the mound :?:

bc2k
04-07-2004, 02:22 PM
Frank Thomas puts on the best at bats.
Sweeney sucks at foul balls. busher

Brian26
04-07-2004, 02:23 PM
Mercy, this is shades of Frank-Guardado from last July 3.

Brian26
04-07-2004, 02:23 PM
Another foul ball!

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:23 PM
May is lucky it's early and Frank's not tuned up yet, or it would 2-0 Good guys by now!

Over By There
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
12 straight fouls and counting! :o:

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Top 1

Uribe grounds out to SS.
Valentin strikes out looking.
Ordonez safe at first on Graffanino´s fielding error.
Frank walks on 18 pitches!

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Base on Balls for Frank. 2 On, 2 Outs, Carlos up.

fhqwhgads
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Now THAT'S a hell of an AB.

JRIG
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
A walk after an 18 pitch at bat. Frank is awesome. Wanna bet Carlos swings at the first pitch?

FJA
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Haha ... I've never pitched, but I imagine there aren't many things worse for the pitcher than throwing 18 pitches to walk the guy.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:24 PM
:hawk
"18 pitches! Mercy!"

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 02:25 PM
GREAT Abat!! 18 pitches, got a walk...ate up some pitches to get May tired...

Frank should bat lead off!

npdempse
04-07-2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Rocky Soprano

Frank walks on 18 pitches!

That's got to have lightened things up in the dugout!
What was that, 8, 10 minutes at bat?

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by JRIG
A walk after an 18 pitch at bat. Frank is awesome. Wanna bet Carlos swings at the first pitch?

TOO FUNNY! Good idea though because you know he wants to throw a strike after all of that.

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by JRIG
Wanna bet Carlos swings at the first pitch?


psychic?

bc2k
04-07-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Mercy, this is shades of Frank-Guardado from last July 3.

And the Frank-Pedro duel that I was honored to see live.

JRIG
04-07-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by bc2k
And the Frank-Pedro duel that I was honored to see live.

That was probably the best pitcher vs. batter match up I've ever seen. Pedro just aced him on the last pitch.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:27 PM
Lee lines it right to our ex-Sox Graf.

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 02:27 PM
Carlos Lee lines out to Graff.

Brian26
04-07-2004, 02:28 PM
35 pitch inning. Nice job wearing this guy down even though we didn't score any runs.

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 02:28 PM
Nothing produced, but that was a good 2 out inning. We should touch this guy this game.

nodiggity59
04-07-2004, 02:29 PM
Still, this guy threw at least 35 pitches in one inning. He gone by the third. Then we open a can on the bullpen.

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by sas1974
TOO FUNNY! Good idea though because you know he wants to throw a strike after all of that. It was a good pitch to hack at, he just got fooled a little bit. You could tell he wanted it back.

SSN721
04-07-2004, 02:31 PM
Little dissapointed that we couldnt do anything after a great at-bat by Frank, but hopefully we can tag this guy before he is out by the 4th or 5th inning.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:33 PM
Farmer's Analysis regarding a ball that popped out of Olivo's mit:

:farmer

"John, you either catch the ball, or drop the ball. It's just that simple"

:hawk

"I love it when you analyize." :D:

Rocklive99
04-07-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by bc2k
And the Frank-Pedro duel that I was honored to see live.

I was there to see that too, that was awesome. Pedro won that, but it ended up knocking him out of the game, Sox come back against the bullpen (I think it was Crede's HR), and that win recharged the division run.

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 02:35 PM
Loaiza's perfect game is gone!

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 02:38 PM
Bottom 1

A. Berroa grounds out to Valentin
C. Beltran walked
M. Sweeney flys out to right.
J. Gonzalez strikes out

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 02:38 PM
Juan Gone is Gone.

Brian26
04-07-2004, 02:38 PM
Rooney says, "He's gone, Mercy, with some giddy-up, pards".

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:38 PM
:hawk

"Jaun-Gone, He Gone!"

0-0 Heading to the Top of the Second.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 02:39 PM
Alright Loaiza!

Brilliant! Smashing!

Go Sox!

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Rooney says, "He's gone, Mercy, with some giddy-up, pards".

I heard that, too. Maybe Rooney and Hawk played some golf together yesterday.

dpbyron
04-07-2004, 02:40 PM
Nasty sequence to Juan-Gone....

Last three pitches: Cutter away, cutter away and then high heat. No one can hit that!

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:44 PM
Ken Griffey who? Attaboy Aaron!

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 02:45 PM
Rowand with a single to right.

Rally Turtle!!!

nodiggity59
04-07-2004, 02:45 PM
Paulie with a ground out to short. I guess he thought there was a guy ont 1st.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:45 PM
2 Run shot by Olivo! Straight away Center.

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 02:46 PM
Ummmm..... Hell ya Miguel.

Eddie Gaedel
04-07-2004, 02:46 PM
ding dong olivo!!!

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 02:46 PM
Top 2

Konerko grounds out
Crede flys out to center
Rowand singles to deep right
Olivo HOMERS!

2-0

woodenleg
04-07-2004, 02:47 PM
Oh my god.

White_Sock
04-07-2004, 02:47 PM
It's officially HR-week for our catchers.

nodiggity59
04-07-2004, 02:47 PM
O - li - vo!

Oooo - li - vo!

Mohoney
04-07-2004, 02:47 PM
Miguel Olivo, 2 run shot!

Will our catchers provide some quality offense this year?

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:47 PM
Uribe strikes out to end the inning. However, 2-0 WHITE SOX :)

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 02:48 PM
Uribe strikes out.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 02:48 PM
Holy cow. What's got into our catchers? Maybe we should bring up Burke.

IlliniSox
04-07-2004, 02:49 PM
Miguel, He's my PTC for 2004. Get rollin' E'LO.

owensmouth
04-07-2004, 02:49 PM
Maybe our catchers cud also play 2d

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:49 PM
53 pitchs through 2. It's a shame they are getting up there. I don't want to see him leave.

npdempse
04-07-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by nodiggity59
O - li - vo!

Oooo - li - vo!

You beat me to it. If Maggs ever leaves, at least Gene Honda (izzat his name?) can recycle.

skottyj242
04-07-2004, 02:50 PM
Matt Stairs: He Gone

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:50 PM
Ut oh! It's the dreaded Matt Stairs!

skottyj242
04-07-2004, 02:51 PM
Billy could have struck him out on Monday.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:52 PM
1-2-3 go the Royals. Heading to the third.

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 02:52 PM
Bottom 2

M. Stairs strikes out
J. Randa grounds out to second
B. Santiago flys out.

Fungo
04-07-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by skottyj242
Matt Stairs: He Gone
Did Ozzie leave in Loaiza or did he bring in Marte to set up the lefty/lefty match-up?

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 02:53 PM
BALCO flies out to right.

1-2-3.

2-0 Sox after 2.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:55 PM
I heard the boys talking on the radio that Tuesday half price nights can now be purchased online, the day before the game with a valid UPC Code. Pretty cool.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:56 PM
Guess what - Valentin struck out. :whiner:

jabrch
04-07-2004, 02:57 PM
For all we complained about Valentin as a switch hitter, I don't like him much as a pure lefty either

small sample size, early in the season, etc. etc. I know. I just hope he breaks out of this. He can't even TOUCH a lefty.

nodiggity59
04-07-2004, 02:57 PM
Another K for Valentin

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:57 PM
Maggs doubles to center with 1 Out and Big Frank coming to bat. Gimme a Ribbie Frank.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
He can't even TOUCH a lefty.

But Maggs can! :D:

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 02:58 PM
Oh-ee-oh with a two bagger.

Encouragement Simian!!!

skottyj242
04-07-2004, 02:58 PM
Is that Ozzie's son the bat boy?

cheeses_h_rice
04-07-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by nodiggity59
Another K for Valentin

Unreal. That's 5 now, in something like 7 or 8 ABs.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 02:59 PM
Maggs tagged to third on Franks flyout to Center. 2 Outs with C-Lee up to bat with a 3-1 count.

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:01 PM
We sure are making May work for his outs. That Frank AB before was awesome. Lee has had two very good ABs. I luv working pitchers deep into an AB.

69 pitches through 3 IP - we gonna see that bullpen for KC real soon!!!

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 03:01 PM
Top 3

Valentin strikes out again. (0-5 with 5 K's in the season)
Ordonez doubles to center.
Thomas flys out to center, Maggs goes to third.
Lee strikes out.

May 69 pitches already!

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 03:02 PM
Carlos can grab some bench...

Well, we stranded a guy on 2nd with less than 2 outs. Ah crap!

But E Lo is dealing!

nodiggity59
04-07-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Rocky Soprano
Top 3

Valentin strikes out again. (0-5 with 5 K's in the season)
Ordonez doubles to center.
Thomas flys out to center, Maggs goes to third.
Lee strikes out.

May 69 pitches already!

Valentin had a double on Monday. It was off a righty reliever I presume.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:04 PM
Man, I can't wait to get to Chicago so I don't have to deal with these choppy internet feeds anymore. Just turn ont he radio and there's the game.

Or hop the red line, of course...

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 03:06 PM
I'm beinging to get this overwhelming feeling of panic, I think we're going ot blow it before the ninth today!

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Tekijawa
I'm beinging to get this overwhelming feeling of panic, I think we're going ot blow it before the ninth today!


lol

You ran out of teal, I presume?

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Tekijawa
I'm beinging to get this overwhelming feeling of panic, I think we're going ot blow it before the ninth today!

Silence you fool! You will upset the spirit of ninth inning closers!

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
lol

You ran out of teal, I presume?

Yeah, Suprisingly enough the teal ran out about 5pm on monday, right before I almost threw my computer threw the wall at work... :D:

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by The_Floridian
Silence you fool! You will upset the spirit of ninth inning closers!

Is their spirit that good that it shouldn't be upset a bit?

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:10 PM
Valentin with a diving stop to take away a single and gets Graf at second.

According to Rooney and Farmer, the ump blew the double play call.

2 outs.

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:11 PM
Loaiza walks Beltran. Probably not a bad idea. I wouldn't want to throw strikes to this guy. (not that Sweeney or the Joker at easy outs but...)

MarqSox
04-07-2004, 03:12 PM
E-Lo's gettin squeezed bad.

skottyj242
04-07-2004, 03:12 PM
What the heck was that? Ugly rundown.

JRIG
04-07-2004, 03:13 PM
I thought Ozzie was supposed to teach these guys how to operate a run-down? Or are they just supposed to have fun while doing it?

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:13 PM
Botched rundown? Not the kind of play I want to see. Beltran and Sweeney both were way off the bags and messed it up. We should be out of the inning instead of throwing to BALCOBOY.

Ozzie should really light into whomever was out of position.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:14 PM
NO!!!!!!!

BAse hit by Sweeney, and the Sox blow the run-down on Beltran to end the inning!

BAD FUNDAMENTALS!!!

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 03:14 PM
Bottom 3

A. Guiel walked.
T. Graffanino reaches on fielders choice.
A. Berroa reaches on fielders choice.
C. Beltran walked.
M. Sweeney singles, Berroa scores.
J. Gonzalez grounds out.

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by The_Floridian
Valentin with a diving stop to take away a single and gets Graf at second.

According to Rooney and Farmer, the ump blew the double play call.

2 outs.

Good thing the ump blew the call, because he just scored.

Also, just gotta love the fundamentals I just saw...I mean I think my 13 years olds I coach could have covered better than Uribe...and where the Hell was Konerko...he has got to be backing up the runner so he should always be behind the first hitter, thus at first base and the runner is out...not to mention that Uribe should have been at 2nd (but not his original position)

Good thing Crede just ended the inning.

A.T. Money
04-07-2004, 03:14 PM
So let me get this straight....

Berroa, who was out on the DP turn scores, and then Beltran, who walks on a pitch right on the corner, ends up on second?

This should still be a 2-0 game kiddies.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:14 PM
Seems like we were lucky to escape w/ only 1 in.

Brian26
04-07-2004, 03:16 PM
In regards to the botched rundown: Farmer just basically said if you're not running on that play (on defense), you're a spectator. And if you're a spectator, you should be sitting down. (Was he talking about PK?)

carusochop
04-07-2004, 03:17 PM
It is nice to see PK looking like he can hit again

bennyw41
04-07-2004, 03:18 PM
The gamecast off Whitesox.com is really good this year. Anyone else got any good ones? The others seem slow, but i like the whitesox.com, lots of info.

Over By There
04-07-2004, 03:18 PM
Konerko draws the leadoff walk.

Maybe Paul "Speedy" Konerko can steal like he did yesterday! Small ball, people! :smile:

carusochop
04-07-2004, 03:18 PM
using CBS SPortsline, it goes

hold2dibber
04-07-2004, 03:20 PM
Was the botched run down after the run scored or before? In other words, did it cost the Sox the run?

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Over By There
Maybe Paul "Speedy" Konerko can steal like he did yesterday! Small ball, people! :smile:

I'd give him the GREEN LIGHT ! :D:

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:20 PM
I missed the play, but Rooney just stated 2-1 White Sox, so obviously the run crossed.

JRIG
04-07-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Was the botched run down after the run scored or before? In other words, did it cost the Sox the run?

After the run scored.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by bennyw41
The gamecast off Whitesox.com is really good this year. Anyone else got any good ones? The others seem slow, but i like the whitesox.com, lots of info.

I am using it too. I dig it. It's much improved over last year.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:21 PM
Pick off attempt? Are you kidding me?

davenicholson
04-07-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Was the botched run down after the run scored or before? In other words, did it cost the Sox the run?
Dibs,
Seeing your handle and the word "rundown" together just ruined my day! Nasty flashback. :(:

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:25 PM
Base hit Olivo (2 for 2), Konerko on second. Uribe up to bat.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:26 PM
Olivo with another hit. Woo hoo!

hold2dibber
04-07-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by davenicholson
Dibs,
Seeing your handle and the word "rundown" together just ruined my day! Nasty flashback. :(:

Nasty indeed. Yuck. Makes Monday's debacle seem trivial.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Nasty indeed. Yuck. Makes Monday's debacle seem trivial.

I remember specifically watching Ozzie yelling at the Sox during ST regarding messy rundowns. Obviously they were paying attention...

Rocky Soprano
04-07-2004, 03:30 PM
Top 4

Konerko gets walked.
Crede pops out to second.
Rowand pops out to ss.
Olivo singles.
Uribe out.

balboner
04-07-2004, 03:31 PM
White Sox: owners of the worst 1-2 hitters in MLB. Against lefties, Rowand should lead off, and Lee hit 2nd.

A.T. Money
04-07-2004, 03:35 PM
Man are we squeezed!

Marte on Monday, and now Steve today...

Brian26
04-07-2004, 03:36 PM
Anyone else having a hard time hearing Tony G's name on the other team? Just hard to get used to.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by A.T. Money
Man are we squeezed!

Marte on Monday, and now Steve today...

I haven't been able to see a game. Has it been the same for both sides? Maybe the umpires are just trying to call it tight this year.

Over By There
04-07-2004, 03:38 PM
Just thinking... any other ESPN 1000 morning listeners dreading tomorrow morning and hearing Bob Picosi saying "es-TAY-bon" for the first time this year? I am.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Anyone else having a hard time hearing Tony G's name on the other team? Just hard to get used to.

I don't mind hearing it if it's followed by:

...grounds out to short.
...throws the ball in the dirt for an error.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:39 PM
Mags with a sliding catch to end the inning.

2-1 Sox after 4.

IlliniSox
04-07-2004, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Anyone else having a hard time hearing Tony G's name on the other team? Just hard to get used to.

Yeah, my ex-favorite. Wow are we cheap.

bennyw41
04-07-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Over By There
Just thinking... any other ESPN 1000 morning listeners dreading tomorrow morning and hearing Bob Picosi saying "es-TAY-bon" for the first time this year? I am.

Not if its followed by "picks up his first win of the year"

IlliniSox
04-07-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by The_Floridian
Mags with a sliding catch to end the inning.

2-1 Sox after 4.

Maggs has all five tools, I'll argue any critic to the grave.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by sas1974
I haven't been able to see a game. Has it been the same for both sides? Maybe the umpires are just trying to call it tight this year.

It's always like that towards the beginning of the year.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:41 PM
Valentin has a hat trick :angry:

34 Inch Stick
04-07-2004, 03:41 PM
Loiza looking good through 4. I wonder how much he has to prove before Kenny at least begins discussion on a contract extension.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Valentin has a hat trick :angry:

Make that, :angry: :angry: :angry:


Nevermind, Maggs just homered! 3-1 SOX

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Another K? NOW this is getting ridiculous!

Randar68
04-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by IlliniSox
Maggs has all five tools, I'll argue any critic to the grave.

Everyone has all five tools, it's how they rate in each of the 5 that makes one a 5-tool player. Maggs has an accurate arm, but he's not in the top 3rd in terms of strength and his speed is only average.

StillMissOzzie
04-07-2004, 03:42 PM
Maggs goes deep to left!! 3-1 Sox!!!

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Valentin has a hat trick :angry:

Glad he only cost us $5 Million!

santo=dorf
04-07-2004, 03:43 PM
Alright Maggs!!!

I changed my sig for Jose.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Nevermind, Maggs just homered! 3-1 SOX

Gee, it would be nice if our "alleged table setters" could get on base.

Jerko
04-07-2004, 03:44 PM
I really hope all of Mags' homers this year aren't solo shots.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:44 PM
C-Lee Homered! 4-1 SOX!!!!

Brian26
04-07-2004, 03:44 PM
Caballo with a dinger.

4-1 Sox.

StillMissOzzie
04-07-2004, 03:44 PM
C Lee homers too!!! MY PICK TO CLICK!! 4-2 Sox!

santo=dorf
04-07-2004, 03:44 PM
CARLOS!!!!

2004 Southside Hitmen

KingXerxes
04-07-2004, 03:45 PM
Don't get me wrong - I'm obviously glad the White Sox are winning, but I have to laugh that last year KW said the team was too dependant on HR's to score, and today all four have come in via home runs.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:45 PM
El Caballo goes yard!

4-1 Sox!!!

JRIG
04-07-2004, 03:45 PM
What happened to small ball? You can't win by just hitting home runs!

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:45 PM
I can't believe he's leaving May in....not that I am complaining mind you.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:46 PM
I'm going to start an official thread of putting Rowand and C-Lee in front of Maggs if this tread doesn't end!

End of Inning, 4-1 White Sox

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 03:46 PM
These HRs are great, but is this a good thing or a bad thing?! :?:

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Baby Fisk
These HRs are great, but is this a good thing or a bad thing?! :?:

The Homers are great, no men on base when they are being belted is a bad thing.

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 03:47 PM
I think it is toally sweet that E Lo is getting no calls and May is getting every single corner.

This has to change for Loiaza to be effective this year!

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:50 PM
Royals are warming up.

Solo shot to lead off the inning and Tony G. follows with a single.

balboner
04-07-2004, 03:50 PM
Someone might want to tell Loaiza that he made his living last year throwing cutters to lefties w/two strikes.

koch44
04-07-2004, 03:51 PM
On the commercial they just showed they said everything's changed, but we're still getting most of our runs from home runs. :?:

ode to veeck
04-07-2004, 03:51 PM
great catch maggs!! lets re-sign him!

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:51 PM
Loaiza's leaving pitches out over the plate. Maybe that's the only way he can get a called strike.

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 03:51 PM
He got range...I like the 5 tool call earlier. Remember MAgs did steal over 20 bases in the past.

StillMissOzzie
04-07-2004, 03:52 PM
Maggs with a fine running catch to the wall, robbing Berroa of exta bases. I think Loaiza has had enough.

SMO

Brian26
04-07-2004, 03:52 PM
Farmer just explained what a five-tool guy is. Beltran can throw, field, run, hit, and hit for power. Does that mean Jose Valentin is a one-tool guy?

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:53 PM
Beltran blooped a single passed Uribe and before Rowand could get there.

2 on with one out and Sweeney coming to bat.

KingXerxes
04-07-2004, 03:53 PM
How many pitches has he thrown?

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by koch44
On the commercial they just showed they said everything's changed, but we're still getting most of our runs from home runs. :?:

It's like this whole franchise is stuck in some weird recurring cycle (and not a good one).

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 03:54 PM
Beltran reaches on a Texas Leaguer.

1st and 3rd, one out. Sweeney's up.

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by bennyw41
The gamecast off Whitesox.com is really good this year. Anyone else got any good ones? The others seem slow, but i like the whitesox.com, lots of info.

I haven't seen the Whitesox.com one, but the MLB.com is awesome.

Clembasbal
04-07-2004, 03:55 PM
Wasn't it Rowand that flew all over the place and crashed into walls to catch balls? All he had to do there was a Magglio slide catch and we double up "The Beak"

Or Was that Jeff Abbott?

KingXerxes
04-07-2004, 03:55 PM
Guillen says in the pre-game that he plan using Jackson in the late innings, but guess who's warming up right now. That's right - Jackson.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
I haven't seen the Whitesox.com one, but the MLB.com is awesome.

I think it's the same thing actually.

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
I haven't seen the Whitesox.com one, but the MLB.com is awesome.

ESPN webcast = GARBAGGIO!

white sox bill
04-07-2004, 03:56 PM
Is E LO starting to worry anyone yet?

bennyw41
04-07-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
I haven't seen the Whitesox.com one, but the MLB.com is awesome.

Same one. It can get slow sometimes, but pretty good none-the-less

Brian26
04-07-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by KingXerxes
Guillen says in the pre-game that he plan using Jackson in the late innings, but guess who's warming up right now. That's right - Jackson.

LOL. You actually understood a word he said in that pre-game interview?

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by bennyw41
Same one. It can get slow sometimes, but pretty good none-the-less

OK - the amount of data is fantastic. Blows the old Yahoo clunker away!

kraut83
04-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Farmer just explained what a five-tool guy is. Beltran can throw, field, run, hit, and hit for power. Does that mean Jose Valentin is a one-tool guy?

I think KW is the tool for signing Jose. What a waste of $

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Farmer just explained what a five-tool guy is. Beltran can throw, field, run, hit, and hit for power. Does that mean Jose Valentin is a one-tool guy?

Not if you don't have any of those "tools"

sas1974
04-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by KingXerxes
How many pitches has he thrown?

85

bennyw41
04-07-2004, 03:58 PM
Is it the end of the inning? cani get a game reset from someone listening, or watching?

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 03:59 PM
Sweeney likes the fould ball!!

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 03:59 PM
Nice play what Uribe. Sox escape, whew :gulp:

jabrch
04-07-2004, 03:59 PM
Loaiza is throwing strikes - can't argue that.

sas1974
04-07-2004, 04:00 PM
I hope E-Lo's got at least one more in him.

Jjav829
04-07-2004, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Baby Fisk
ESPN webcast = GARBAGGIO!

My chat room Play-by-play = light years better! :smile:

bennyw41
04-07-2004, 04:01 PM
Has anyone tried the new MLB tv deal? Is it okay? I'd do it if there were more day games, but not only that, I am behind a fierce firewall here at work. :angry:

bennyw41
04-07-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Jjav829
My chat room Play-by-play = light years better! :smile:

Any idea on how i can get into that room with the wall i'm behind here at work?

Fridaythe13thJason
04-07-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by bennyw41
Has anyone tried the new MLB tv deal? Is it okay? I'd do it if there were more day games, but not only that, I am behind a fierce firewall here at work. :angry:

You don't get your local games.

SEALgep
04-07-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by kraut83
I think KW is the tool for signing Jose. What a waste of $ He made a hell of a play at short.

jabrch
04-07-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by UICJason
You don't get your local games.

What if you give them a registration address outside the Chicago market?

sas1974
04-07-2004, 04:03 PM
Is Crede at least making GOOD contact?

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by SEALgep
He made a hell of a play at short.
SS's in this era have to produce more than fielding.

Jjav829
04-07-2004, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by bennyw41
Any idea on how i can get into that room with the wall i'm behind here at work?

Sorry, I have no idea. You'd have to ask someone like Michelle or West. They might be able to.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 04:08 PM
Seven Sox players have whiffed today. 1-2-3 Inning, still 4-2 Sox.

SoxBoy14
04-07-2004, 04:08 PM
whats the score? and someone sumerize the game so far

hold2dibber
04-07-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Baby Fisk
SS's in this era have to produce more than fielding.

I believe there were only 2 shortstops in all of baseball who had more HRs than Jose last year.

Jose is a decent defensive SS and a better than average hitter against RIGHTIES ONLY. He should never hit against a lefty. That's why the Sox will miss Graffinino this year - he murders lefty. There were a great platoon combo. Now, the Sox have two starting middle infielders who can't get lefties backed up by a single guy (Uribe) who can't hit anybody.

jabrch
04-07-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by sas1974
Is Crede at least making GOOD contact?

Both of his flyouts have been to dead center. Nice to see him put the ball back up the middle - but it would be nice to see one or two fall in - or keep going.

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by fledgedrallycap
Seven Sox players have whiffed today. 1-2-3 Inning, still 4-2 Sox.

Actually Jose wiffed 3 times and four other players have one K.

Fridaythe13thJason
04-07-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by jabrch
What if you give them a registration address outside the Chicago market?

It would need to connect to an address that is attached to the paying credit card out of the market. Even then, I'm not sure it would work, but I know the address and card have to match.

ode to veeck
04-07-2004, 04:09 PM
If you missed it, hope espn or wgn replays the 17 pitch AB by Frank, even though it didn't amount to anything

Randar68
04-07-2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
I believe there were only 2 shortstops in all of baseball who had more HRs than Jose last year.

Jose is a decent defensive SS and a better than average hitter against RIGHTIES ONLY. He should never hit against a lefty. That's why the Sox will miss Graffinino this year - he murders lefty. There were a great platoon combo. Now, the Sox have two starting middle infielders who can't get lefties backed up by a single guy (Uribe) who can't hit anybody.

Aside from the fact that Graffy is barely serviceable at 2B or 3B, let alone SS...

Uribe would be a better platoon partner than Graffy, at least he's above average defensively.

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by ode to veeck
If you missed it, hope espn or wgn replays the 17 pitch AB by Frank, even though it didn't amount to anything


That sounds like the frank of old???? Could Frank be back?

Brian26
04-07-2004, 04:11 PM
Cotts up in the pen.

SoxBoy14
04-07-2004, 04:11 PM
what tv station is this game on??

JRIG
04-07-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Aside from the fact that Graffy is barely serviceable at 2B or 3B, let alone SS...

Uribe would be a better platoon partner than Graffy, at least he's above average defensively.

But you don't platoon a guy for defensive purposes, you do it for offense. And Graffanino can hit LHP a heck of a lot better than Uribe.

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Tekijawa
That sounds like the frank of old???? Could Frank be back?
:hurt
"I ain't never been away, baby."

Randar68
04-07-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Cotts up in the pen.

If Loaiza get's out of this inning quickly, he could go one more. PLEASE GO ONE MORE!

Brian26
04-07-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
I believe there were only 2 shortstops in all of baseball who had more HRs than Jose last year.

Give me a shortstop that hits 10 homers and bats .310 anyday of the week. Haven't we learned our lesson with Jose by now? Yeah, he'll hit 30 homers this year. But how many strikeouts will go with that .228 average?

Randar68
04-07-2004, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by JRIG
But you don't platoon a guy for defensive purposes, you do it for offense. And Graffanino can hit LHP a heck of a lot better than Uribe.

But he can't play SS worth a damn, your most important defensive position outside of Catcher...

Randar68
04-07-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Give me a shortstop that hits 10 homers and bats .310 anyday of the week. Haven't we learned our lesson with Jose by now?

Especially when we have a bunch of other low-OBP-retards on this team...

The heart of this order is fine, they just need people on base!

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
If Loaiza get's out of this inning quickly, he could go one more. PLEASE GO ONE MORE!

He should, down went the Royals.

The_Floridian
04-07-2004, 04:14 PM
Loaiza sends em down 1-2-3.

4-2 Sox after 6.

kraut83
04-07-2004, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
I believe there were only 2 shortstops in all of baseball who had more HRs than Jose last year.

I would be interested to see how his obp & strikeouts compared to other ss the past couple of years. I just get a little tired of the feast or famine at the plate with him.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 04:16 PM
Our old aquiantance Sullivan is on the mound for the Royals.

34 Inch Stick
04-07-2004, 04:16 PM
I imagine that was Esteban's last inning. Nice performance for the first time out. He had a couple of shaky moments and the strike outs were not there but 6 innings and 2 runs is quality.

Now its time to trust the bullpen.

MarqSox
04-07-2004, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
Give me a shortstop that hits 10 homers and bats .310 anyday of the week. Haven't we learned our lesson with Jose by now? Yeah, he'll hit 30 homers this year. But how many strikeouts will go with that .228 average?
Jose is as clutch a hitter as we have. There's nobody I'd rather have at the plate with the tying run on third and two outs in the ninth. That's an intangible that doesn't come through in the box score.

Baby Fisk
04-07-2004, 04:16 PM
The bullpen situation looms...

:bundy
"AIIEEEEEE!"

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 04:18 PM
Let's go JOSE!!!! come on get that 4th K, make Sully look good!

jabrch
04-07-2004, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox
Jose is as clutch a hitter as we have. There's nobody I'd rather have at the plate with the tying run on third and two outs in the ninth. That's an intangible that doesn't come through in the box score.

NOBODY?

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox
Jose is as clutch a hitter as we have. There's nobody I'd rather have at the plate with the tying run on third and two outs in the ninth. That's an intangible that doesn't come through in the box score.

I'd MUCH rather have Carlos up at that point... maybe even Konerko?

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 04:20 PM
Well, he didn't strike out. Valentin popped up to Graf.

Tekijawa
04-07-2004, 04:20 PM
At least he got the bat on the ball!

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Tekijawa
I'd MUCH rather have Carlos up at that point... maybe even Konerko?

Konerko would clog the bases. C-Lee or Rowand should be there.

balboner
04-07-2004, 04:21 PM
If KC starts lefties in every game vs the Sox this year, will Jose get a hit off of a KC starter this year?

Brian26
04-07-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox
Jose is as clutch a hitter as we have. There's nobody I'd rather have at the plate with the tying run on third and two outs in the ninth. That's an intangible that doesn't come through in the box score.

I love Jose, I'll admit it. He's in my signature photo. But, I don't know if he's the best guy for us right now.

ode to veeck
04-07-2004, 04:23 PM
not a bad play maggs, mr hustle today, close call there

Eddie Gaedel
04-07-2004, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by balboner
If KC starts lefties in every game vs the Sox this year, will Jose get a hit off of a KC starter this year?

the only hit he'll get is by the pitch.

fledgedrallycap
04-07-2004, 04:23 PM
Maggs is out in an attempt for an extra bag. 7-4 Out on a Single.

Stand for the stretch.