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CWSGuy406
02-28-2004, 05:43 PM
I'm going to play devil's advocate and provide a different take on Billy Koch, as maybe he will rebound and have a successful 2004 campaign.

First, Koch almost threw half of what he threw in other years. He pitched only about 53 innings, as opposed to 95 or so in 2002 with Oakland. I'm hoping that maybe some of the lack of pitching last season will add to his velocity (I'm not positive that it would have any effect.) and keep him a bit healthier this season.

Second, I really think Coop will help him out, adding movement to his rope-like fastball. Granted, if he gets up to 98 that movement isn't as important, but if Koch is only throwing 94-96, it'd help if he'd be able to throw a cutter, or just be able to get his pitch right where he wants it.

Third, after last season, there is no where to really go but up (I hope, at least, lol). I think he has a little less pressure on him to perform, although it is good that there are a couple of guys who can fill the closer role with Flash's departure (Koch, Shingo, Politte).

Saying that, I think Koch is a big key to our bullpen. If he has a successful 2004 campaign, then pressure is taken off many of our other relievers and guys won't be "forced" into roles. For example, if Koch can succeed, Shingo won't have to perform as a closer but rather a setup man, Politte can possibly do the same as Shingo, Marte will be able to pitch several innings and not have to worry about closing, and Wunsch will be able to do his job (sorry for that rambling sentence, hehe).

Thoughts?


P.S. Not relating to the topic, I'm planning on going to the Sox Garage Sale, and I want to purchase a Garland home jersey (the cutoff one, normally worn with a black sleeve shirt underneath). How much would it cost for one not game worn? And, that place near the ballpark that Dave Wills advertises normally after games (I can't think of the place), it sells all the different types of jerseys, how far from the park and on what street is it on, and the name of it? Thanks for any help.

doublem23
02-28-2004, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by CWSGuy406

P.S. Not relating to the topic, I'm planning on going to the Sox Garage Sale, and I want to purchase a Garland home jersey (the cutoff one, normally worn with a black sleeve shirt underneath). How much would it cost for one not game worn? And, that place near the ballpark that Dave Wills advertises normally after games (I can't think of the place), it sells all the different types of jerseys, how far from the park and on what street is it on, and the name of it? Thanks for any help.

Off topic, when is the garage sale? Hopefully it coincides with my Spring Break.

Jjav829
02-28-2004, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by CWSGuy406
I'm going to play devil's advocate and provide a different take on Billy Koch, as maybe he will rebound and have a successful 2004 campaign.

First, Koch almost threw half of what he threw in other years. He pitched only about 53 innings, as opposed to 95 or so in 2002 with Oakland. I'm hoping that maybe some of the lack of pitching last season will add to his velocity (I'm not positive that it would have any effect.) and keep him a bit healthier this season.

Second, I really think Coop will help him out, adding movement to his rope-like fastball. Granted, if he gets up to 98 that movement isn't as important, but if Koch is only throwing 94-96, it'd help if he'd be able to throw a cutter, or just be able to get his pitch right where he wants it.

Third, after last season, there is no where to really go but up (I hope, at least, lol). I think he has a little less pressure on him to perform, although it is good that there are a couple of guys who can fill the closer role with Flash's departure (Koch, Shingo, Politte).

Saying that, I think Koch is a big key to our bullpen. If he has a successful 2004 campaign, then pressure is taken off many of our other relievers and guys won't be "forced" into roles. For example, if Koch can succeed, Shingo won't have to perform as a closer but rather a setup man, Politte can possibly do the same as Shingo, Marte will be able to pitch several innings and not have to worry about closing, and Wunsch will be able to do his job (sorry for that rambling sentence, hehe).

Thoughts?


I would agree. Was he extremely disappointing last year? Yes. But count me in as one who thinks Koch will be much better this year. Of course, being much better doesn't say a ton since he was awful last year. Will he be Gagne? No of course not but I expect that he will be able to keep his ERA under 4 this year. There's no doubt to me that he is a huge piece for the pen. As you said, if he is able to regain the closers job it makes our pen much better. Marte can slide into the main relief spot where I would rather see him. Wunsch takes his usual lefty specialist role. Takatsu hopefully establishes himself enough to where he can be an 8th inning guy for games when Marte needs a rest. Politte can be slotted into the 6th/7th inning role.

If that situation plays out, our pen should be in good shape. If Koch sucks then everyone moves up which really hurts us. Hopefully Koch has his fastball back and can actually pitch a little this year.

StillMissOzzie
02-28-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by doublem23
Off topic, when is the garage sale? Hopefully it coincides with my Spring Break.

I don't know if this has been announced yet, but they have been doing this on the same day that single game tix go on sale, which is Saturday, 3/13/04

SMO
:gulp:

SoxxoS
02-28-2004, 07:13 PM
Plain and simple, if Koch regains 2002 form, we are a top 5 bullpen in the majors, IMO. Especially if Takatsu pitches well.

HomeFish
02-28-2004, 07:31 PM
As to your second question, there is a place close to the Cell on 35th Street (just walk on the side of 35th street opposite the current stadium west past the railroad bridge. It's about two or three blocks away) that sells jerseys and Sox stuff, but I am unsure if it is the one advertised.

Daver
02-28-2004, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by HomeFish
As to your second question, there is a place close to the Cell on 35th Street (just walk on the side of 35th street opposite the current stadium west past the railroad bridge. It's about two or three blocks away) that sells jerseys and Sox stuff, but I am unsure if it is the one advertised.

They are the same place,it is called Grandstand.

HomeFish
02-28-2004, 07:42 PM
Nifty. Are there any other such places nearby?

Or perhaps a map of all recommended/endorsed establishments near the ballpark?