idseer

09-06-2001, 08:26 PM

i've seen it stated at various times about jose being a better ss cause of his arm and range.

now, i know over a short period of time some stats don't mean much. but i looked at the 4 years prior to this one and this is what i found:

valentin -

total chances / games

612 / 132 - '97

564 / 139 - '98

348 / 85 - '99

726 / 142 - '00

2214 / 500 total = 4.43 total chances per game

clayton -

698 / 145 - '97

688 / 141 - '98

636 / 133 - '99

690 / 144 - '00

2712 / 563 total = 4.82 total chances per game

add in valintin's .956 lifetime fldg. avg at ss

compared to clayton's .971

it's obvious to me that in FACT, clayton makes MORE plays and covers MORE ground than valentin!

also, espn defines range factor as being putouts + assists divided by innings.

they also show jose's number is 4.877 and royce's is 4.765. frankly, jose has been involved in a higher percentage of dp's which skews that figure a bit imo. looks to me like royce can 'range' (get to) as many balls or more than jose.

let me add ... their figures don't seem to jibe.

clearly jose has (at ss) 1345 po's and 2662 assts in 7394 innings (according to espn figures). if you add the po's & assts you get 4007 which when divided by innings you get .54 and with royce's figures you get .53.

anyway there is another factor they call zone-rating (The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive "zone," as measured by STATS, Inc). claton's is higher. .938 to .921.

i think this all shows clayton should be our man, considering how weak our fielding already is.

now, i know over a short period of time some stats don't mean much. but i looked at the 4 years prior to this one and this is what i found:

valentin -

total chances / games

612 / 132 - '97

564 / 139 - '98

348 / 85 - '99

726 / 142 - '00

2214 / 500 total = 4.43 total chances per game

clayton -

698 / 145 - '97

688 / 141 - '98

636 / 133 - '99

690 / 144 - '00

2712 / 563 total = 4.82 total chances per game

add in valintin's .956 lifetime fldg. avg at ss

compared to clayton's .971

it's obvious to me that in FACT, clayton makes MORE plays and covers MORE ground than valentin!

also, espn defines range factor as being putouts + assists divided by innings.

they also show jose's number is 4.877 and royce's is 4.765. frankly, jose has been involved in a higher percentage of dp's which skews that figure a bit imo. looks to me like royce can 'range' (get to) as many balls or more than jose.

let me add ... their figures don't seem to jibe.

clearly jose has (at ss) 1345 po's and 2662 assts in 7394 innings (according to espn figures). if you add the po's & assts you get 4007 which when divided by innings you get .54 and with royce's figures you get .53.

anyway there is another factor they call zone-rating (The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive "zone," as measured by STATS, Inc). claton's is higher. .938 to .921.

i think this all shows clayton should be our man, considering how weak our fielding already is.