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Bisco Stu
01-20-2004, 03:08 AM
...we're in the playoffs. Of course, I'm talking 15-7/10, not 15-15,

Elo and Burly are good for 40 wins.

Frank is BACK (okay, not 93/94 back, but close enough)

Caballo will be an all star.

Maggs has something to prove for that gawd awful 2003 performance.

Ozzie will infuse the team with energy and attention to details, two attributes beyond JM's awareness.

And our division is the Robert Taylor homes of baseball.

It's all on Garland or signing/trading for a vet.

JRIG
01-20-2004, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Bisco Stu
...we're in the playoffs. Of course, I'm talking 15-7/10, not 15-15,

Elo and Burly are good for 40 wins.


Weren't Buehrle and Colon supposed to be good for 40 wins last year? And how did that work out?

Do you have any idea how difficult it is for a pitcher to win 20 games in a season?

Besides, predicting wins for a pitcher is one of the most pointless exercises around. Loaiza could post an ERA of 1.16 and still not get 20 wins if the offense doesn't back him up.

SoxOnTop
01-20-2004, 08:54 AM
Heck, the man gave up 1 run to the Tigers in 2 separate outings and lost them both, for pete's sake!!!!

soxfan26
01-20-2004, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Bisco Stu
...we're in the playoffs. Of course, I'm talking 15-7/10, not 15-15,

Elo and Burly are good for 40 wins.

Frank is BACK (okay, not 93/94 back, but close enough)

Caballo will be an all star.

Maggs has something to prove for that gawd awful 2003 performance.

Ozzie will infuse the team with energy and attention to details, two attributes beyond JM's awareness.

And our division is the Robert Taylor homes of baseball.

It's all on Garland or signing/trading for a vet.

WHAT?

bobj4400
01-20-2004, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Bisco Stu
...we're in the playoffs. Of course, I'm talking 15-7/10, not 15-15,

Elo and Burly are good for 40 wins.

Frank is BACK (okay, not 93/94 back, but close enough)

Caballo will be an all star.

Maggs has something to prove for that gawd awful 2003 performance.

Ozzie will infuse the team with energy and attention to details, two attributes beyond JM's awareness.

And our division is the Robert Taylor homes of baseball.

It's all on Garland or signing/trading for a vet.

If Elo and Buehrle combine for 30 wins, I will be happy. 40 wins!?! From two guys that have combined for one career 20 win season? I know we are all Sox fans, but lets look at this objectively...

34 Inch Stick
01-20-2004, 10:48 AM
With only three starters worth anything Garland HAS TO win 15 games if we hope to make the playoffs. You know how well Garland does in pressure situations..... if they are .500 I would be shocked.

Brian26
01-20-2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Bisco Stu
Maggs has something to prove for that gawd awful 2003 performance.

Huh? You had me up until this one, bro.

CubKilla
01-20-2004, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Brian26
Huh? You had me up until this one, bro.

I guess he was 1 HR and 1 RBI short of having an average season for Maggs.

munchman33
01-20-2004, 11:06 AM
Unfortunately, his 2002 campaign set new standards for him. .300, 30hr, 100rbi just doesn't cut it anymore. He's suppossed to be elite now, not just an average star outfielder.

Originally posted by CubKilla
I guess he was 1 HR and 1 RBI short of having an average season for Maggs.

Brian26
01-20-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by CubKilla
I guess he was 1 HR and 1 RBI short of having an average season for Maggs.

That doesn't make him "god-awful" though. Give me a break.

Brian26
01-20-2004, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by munchman33
.300, 30hr, 100rbi just doesn't cut it anymore. He's suppossed to be elite now, not just an average star outfielder.

These numbers don't constitute a "god-awful performance".

thecell
01-20-2004, 01:45 PM
15 wins for Garland? That may be tough considering God's (aka Kerry Wood) career high for wins in a season is 14...and we all know how great a pitcher he is.

hillbilly
01-20-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
These numbers don't constitute a "god-awful performance".

We got your point.....reeeeeeeeeelax. But he didnt have a good year for the money he was making.

Bisco Stu
01-21-2004, 01:14 AM
It's time for Mags to carry this team on his back, approach MVP status.

All I recall from 03 was his consistently hitting into DP's in clutch situations.

HITMEN OF 77
01-21-2004, 01:17 AM
I recall him hitting a lot pop fly's. Everytime I was watching on TV (WGN) it seemed that Alomar Jr was clutch as anyone, but maybe that was just me.

LASOXFAN
01-21-2004, 01:32 AM
I'm expecting a big year out of Garland. I think he FINALLY started to mature in the second half of last season, finally showing poise on the mound when things started to go against him, which is huge in my book. Have to handle adversity on the mound and he's got the junk to do it.

And you can add Crede, Lee, Rowand and Ordonez to the list of big years to come in '04, imho. As for Loiza, Frank and PK...? I'll be watching them closely this spring when I head over to Tucson.

lowesox
01-21-2004, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by Bisco Stu
[BElo and Burly are good for 40 wins.

Maggs has something to prove for that gawd awful 2003 performance.

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What weird things to write. Were you being serious?

depy48
01-21-2004, 01:43 AM
how many rbi's are we expecting from nomar...i mean........

jabrch
01-21-2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Bisco Stu
...we're in the playoffs. Of course, I'm talking 15-7/10, not 15-15,

Elo and Burly are good for 40 wins.

Frank is BACK (okay, not 93/94 back, but close enough)

Caballo will be an all star.

Maggs has something to prove for that gawd awful 2003 performance.

Ozzie will infuse the team with energy and attention to details, two attributes beyond JM's awareness.

And our division is the Robert Taylor homes of baseball.

It's all on Garland or signing/trading for a vet.

Elo and Buehrle for 40? That is a reach.

Frank is back? He had a productive season, but .265 is not my definition of "back" for him

Caballo an all-star? As likely as 40 from Elo/Buehrle and 15 from Garland. Caballo is a solid OF, but I can list 10 better AL OFs for sure.

Maggs did not have an awful 2003 season - that's nonsense

and the worst yet...Ozzie will infuse the team with energy and attention to details,

Ozzie and Joey Cora were two of the most fundamentally poor players we had. They are not "details" guys. The concept of Ozzie teaching plate discipline and contact is foolish. I think he may end up an OK manager, but not because of his "attention to details".