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lowesox
01-13-2004, 03:35 PM
Not sure about how healthy he is, but this is a player the sox should look at. He's a versatile guy, and I think if they brought him in to spring training he'd beat out Harris at 2b and leadoff.

Frater Perdurabo
01-13-2004, 04:13 PM
This would not be a bad signing. He was the heart of the 1998-1999 Texas Rangers when he set the table for Rusty Greer, I-Rod and Juan Gonzalez. He's pretty good in the clubhouse, too.

Dub25
01-13-2004, 04:52 PM
Hey, another grinder KW will let get away.

FanOf14
01-13-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Frater Perdurabo
This would not be a bad signing. He was the heart of the 1998-1999 Texas Rangers when he set the table for Rusty Greer, I-Rod and Juan Gonzalez. He's pretty good in the clubhouse, too.

He wasn't all that great with the Mariners' the last few years...but considering our alternative, I guess it would be such a bad signing.

JDP
01-13-2004, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by Frater Perdurabo
He was the heart of the 1998-1999 Texas Rangers when he set the table for Rusty Greer, I-Rod and Juan Gonzalez

In his "heart of the team / table setting" glory days you speak of:
98: .247 AVG, .369 OBP, 12 SB's
99: .274 ABG, .363 OBP, 16 SB's

Willie Harris can give you McLemore's '98 stats this year (.340 OBP vs. .360).

The McLemore of 3 years ago (2001 season) is the McLemore you'd like to have on this team (.286/.386/39); however, the version that is on the market now is the .233/.318/5 hitting 39 year old.

So the question is: why would we wish to sign a '03 version of Willie Harris with old legs?

maurice
01-13-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by JDP
Willie Harris can give you McLemore's '98 stats this year

Boy, I hope you're right, but I have a feeling that this ought to be in deep pink.

dickallen15
01-13-2004, 07:23 PM
People forget the White Sox really started playing well last year BEFORE the got Alomar and Everett. Harris and Rowand were in the line-up. Immediately after the acquistions the Sox went into the tank against Tampa Bay, Cleveland and Detroit. If the pitching can improve, the line-up is still very lethal. Olivo should get better, Harris has potential. He was hitting over .400 last year at AAA when he was called up. Hopefully, he is not a AAAA player. Rowand is not the greatest, but his numbers were pretty good after a terrible start, and even if he's not the greatest defensive CF in the world, he is still an upgrade over Everett. Crede should be more consistent. The pitching staff needs a few additions, but this is definitely not a 90-100 loss team many are predicting.

lowesox
01-13-2004, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by dickallen15
People forget the White Sox really started playing well last year BEFORE the got Alomar and Everett. Harris and Rowand were in the line-up.

I've read this a couple times now. But one thing people forget is that Jimenez was our 2b then, not Harris. And while Jimenez wasn't incredible, he wasn't 'Willie-Harris-Awful'. In fact, I kind of wished we'd kept him. Harris has never been good over a reasonable stretch of time. He hasn't. He's done nothing to be considered the starting second baseman. He's starting only because of money. That and KW trying to prove he made a nice trade for Singleton.

JDP
01-13-2004, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by maurice
Boy, I hope you're right, but I have a feeling that this ought to be in deep pink.

You don't think Harris is capable of hitting .247 with 6 HR's and 16 SB's in '04?
I think he'll match or eclipse 2 of those 3 at a minimum. His OBP however, will be nowhere near .360 -- maybe something along the lines of a .320-.330, dare I dream .340?

maurice
01-14-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by JDP
His OBP however, will be nowhere near .360

Bingo. If he can get on base that often, he'll steal 40+ bases and score 100+ runs, easy.

I don't care about my leadoff hitter's HR total or AVE, except to the extent that it translates into OBP.