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JRIG
01-09-2004, 11:18 AM
The Devil Rays just resigned Aubrey Huff. Over the past two seasons, Huff has outplayed Lee and last season Huff had a higher BA, OBP, and SLG, more hits, doubles, triples, and home runs, more walks and fewer strikeouts.

Huff, one year younger and with one fewer year of MLB experience, just re-upped with TB for three years and $14.5 million, taking him through his last arbitration year. Huff will make 2.5 million in 2004, $4.75 million in 2005 and $6.75 million in 2006. So, basically, at the apex of Huff's new contract he will make as much as Lee will this year. Even though there's a great chance he will still be outplaying Lee down the road.

Just remember this next time KW complains about having no money. Vasting overpaying and overrating your own talent (Lee, Konerko, Koch's extension) is no way to efficiently run a ballclub.

SSN721
01-09-2004, 11:27 AM
Does anyone know when CLee signed his current contract? Just curious.

CubKilla
01-09-2004, 11:44 AM
He re-upped in November or December for the next 2 seasons. IIRC, he'll get about $7 million a season.

Frater Perdurabo
01-09-2004, 11:46 AM
Being a tightwad with money is not the worst thing in the world.

Being a careless tightwad is much worse.

JRIG
01-09-2004, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by CubKilla
He re-upped in November or December for the next 2 seasons. IIRC, he'll get about $7 million a season.

$6.5 million this year, a crazy $8.5 million(!) next year.

poorme
01-09-2004, 12:00 PM
Wouldn't Huff be a FA in 3 years vs. 1 year for Lee?

jeremyb1
01-09-2004, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by poorme
Wouldn't Huff be a FA in 3 years vs. 1 year for Lee?

Correct. I don't like Lee's deal very much but to compare it to Huff's you have to compare Huffs last season of arbitration to Lee's in which case they're making the same money as was pointed out.

jabrch
01-09-2004, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by jeremyb1
Correct. I don't like Lee's deal very much but to compare it to Huff's you have to compare Huffs last season of arbitration to Lee's in which case they're making the same money as was pointed out.

We bought out 1 year of Lee's FA. Huff was taken only to the end of his arbitration. You can hardly compare the two deals.

JRIG
01-09-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by jeremyb1
Correct. I don't like Lee's deal very much but to compare it to Huff's you have to compare Huffs last season of arbitration to Lee's in which case they're making the same money as was pointed out.

My fault. I had the arbitration-eligible years mixed up.

Man Soo Lee
01-09-2004, 10:37 PM
From the official site (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/cws/news/cws_press_release.jsp?ymd=20031219&content_id=621326&vkey=pr_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cha):

Lee would have been eligible for arbitration each of the next two years and eligible for free agency following the 2005 season.

The option year for '06 is the only year of free agency that's covered by Lee's new contract. JRIG's first post is right on.

mac9001
01-09-2004, 11:29 PM
This is Aubrey Huff's first arbitration eligible season, while Carlos is entering his 3rd arbitration eligible season. So in comparison:

Aubrey Huff's will make 14.5-million in his first 3 season.

While Carlos Lee:

2002- $2,700,000
2003- $4,200,000
2004- $6,500,000

Total- $13,100,000

So, in actuality Carlos will make 1.4 million less than Aubrey Huff.

Man Soo Lee
01-10-2004, 05:40 AM
Carlos must have been a "super two" arbitration-eligible in 2002, which is why he made $2.7 million vs. the $350,000 that Huff made last year.

Lee would have been arbitration eligible in '03, '04, and '05 and then become a free agent. In those three years he will make (4.2M, 6.5M, 8.5M) a total of $19.2 million.

Huff could have gone to arbitration in '04, '05, and '06, then become a free agent. Instead he will make $14.5 million.

So, Carlos will make $4.7 million more in the three years prior to free agency and likely produce less than Huff.

mac9001
01-10-2004, 10:29 PM
Well, if Carlos was a "super two" player that would explain why he received more than Huff. Also, the fact that Huff agreed to $14.5M over three years doesn’t mean the White Sox's overpaid for Lee. If Huff would have signed a 1-year deal and repeated last season he'd be looking at $7-8M in arbitration. He simply chose less money, but added security in his deal.