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maggsmaggs
12-20-2003, 05:20 PM
http://rotoworld.com/display1.asp?sport=MLB&page=players&x=6285&y=0

He was non-tendered by the A's, for 6 million over two years he would be a solid pickup and he kills the Cubs.

MHOUSE
12-20-2003, 05:21 PM
Go for it. I was disappointed when the As picked him up for a nobody reliever. Go get him Kenny.

maggsmaggs
12-20-2003, 05:23 PM
Although, Redman is a california native, i think he'd come to Chicago. however, he might go to San Diego (his hometown) or San Francisco. he will probably get more money from these teams, but I would tell Kenny to give him a 3-year, 10 million dollar deal, he is a reliable arm, kinda like Buerhle.

Dub25
12-20-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by maggsmaggs
http://rotoworld.com/display1.asp?sport=MLB&page=players&x=6285&y=0

He was non-tendered by the A's, for 6 million over two years he would be a solid pickup and he kills the Cubs.

Are we a world series contender? Redmen could shut down the cubs in game 1, 4 ,and 7 to win the series. Redmen wouldn't be bad. He has playoff expierence and I think would be the only starter on the staff that has any of that.

maggsmaggs
12-20-2003, 05:25 PM
Don't foget Buerhle was in the bullpen in 2000
:whiner:

Dub25
12-20-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by maggsmaggs
Don't foget Buerhle was in the bullpen in 2000
:whiner:

That's right. You could see the talent that year. Thank God Kip Wells and Garland sucked in spring training in 2001 because the great Jerry Manual (he sees great talent just like Juaron does) had Buerhle penciled in for the bullpen for that season. And KW waited until the end of this season to fire him.

SoxxoS
12-20-2003, 05:36 PM
Redman is batting practice. Anybody who watched him in the playoffs knows exactly what I am talking about.

hold2dibber
12-20-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Redman is batting practice. Anybody who watched him in the playoffs knows exactly what I am talking about.

He didn't pitch well in the playoffs, but I hardly think a few bad starts in the playoffs outweigh the two solid seasons he had before that. Don't get me wrong, the guy's not going to make anyone forget Bartolo, but if you can sign him to a one or two year deal for between $1.5 and $2.5 million per year, he'd make a fine no. 4 starter.

ChiWhiteSox1337
12-20-2003, 05:43 PM
i'd rather have the sox sign this guy over schoenweis for the rotation

Man Soo Lee
12-20-2003, 05:53 PM
Danys Baez interests me too.

Meixner007
12-20-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Man Soo Lee
Danys Baez interests me too.

Absolutly not. This guy's a younger version of el pupo

longshot7
12-20-2003, 07:01 PM
forget Redman.... let's go after RODMAN!!!

jeremyb1
12-20-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Redman is batting practice. Anybody who watched him in the playoffs knows exactly what I am talking about.

Well if you saw him pitch a few games, clearly you can make a definitive statement about his worth as a pitcher.

MRKARNO
12-21-2003, 12:09 AM
His home ERA of 2.88 compared to his road ERA of 4.27 shows me that he wasn't as good as the 3.59 ERA would indicate. He's been pretty good the past 2 years, but it helps that his home parks were Detroit and Florida. I'm sure he'd be at least as good as Garland and could be an innings eater.

SoxxoS
12-21-2003, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by jeremyb1
Well if you saw him pitch a few games, clearly you can make a definitive statement about his worth as a pitcher.

If he can't pitch in crunchtime and in pressure situations, I don' t want him on the Sox.

I have seen Redman pitch a lot more than a few games, and you are kidding yourself if you don't think he throws crap up there. His 87 mph fastball is straight, and his other pitches haven't been impressive either. He isn't good.

hillbilly
12-21-2003, 01:35 AM
Hes a solid pitcher. Anyone thats anyone that knows baseball regardless of home vs away era knows a 3.59 era is damn good this day in age. Even if you wanna say he had a 4.6 era away is pretty darn solid plus the experience he brings. Why not? Hes better then scotty schoenweis.

RichH55
12-21-2003, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
If he can't pitch in crunchtime and in pressure situations, I don' t want him on the Sox.

I have seen Redman pitch a lot more than a few games, and you are kidding yourself if you don't think he throws crap up there. His 87 mph fastball is straight, and his other pitches haven't been impressive either. He isn't good.

Yet the numbers don't seem to suggest this, wonder why that is

A.T. Money
12-21-2003, 04:18 AM
Redman couldn't break a pane of glass with that dead arm.

munchman33
12-21-2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by RichH55
Yet the numbers don't seem to suggest this, wonder why that is

Here's the deal:

Redman's fastball is straight and very hittable when he's not on. But he changes speeds very well (great changeup) and hits his spots almost as good as Elo.

The fact that he's lefthanded is also a plus.

I wouldn't pay him big bucks, but for 3 million we certainly could do a lot worse. :gulp:

gosox41
12-21-2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by maggsmaggs
http://rotoworld.com/display1.asp?sport=MLB&page=players&x=6285&y=0

He was non-tendered by the A's, for 6 million over two years he would be a solid pickup and he kills the Cubs.

Redman at $3 mill per year would be a great deal for the Sox. I'm surprised the A's non-tendered him.

Bob

SoxxoS
12-21-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by RichH55
Yet the numbers don't seem to suggest this, wonder why that is

Which numbers are you talking about. It must be his three Cy Young type seasons before 2003. I think 2003 was a career year for Redman.

RichH55
12-21-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Which numbers are you talking about. It must be his three Cy Young type seasons before 2003. I think 2003 was a career year for Redman.


2003 was the year I was talking about...though I'm shocked he didn't put up good numbers with the Tigers...with that kind of talent and intelligence in that organization you figure he would win 20 every year......Guys who don't have great fastballs, but learn to change speeds successfully can be great for a long long time

As a 4th starter, I have no issues with that

StillMissOzzie
12-22-2003, 02:36 AM
Another FA off the market. Per ESPN.com, signed by the A's for
3 / $12M...


SMO
:gulp: