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MRKARNO
12-11-2003, 04:05 PM
These seem to be the most likely pitchers on other teams who might land on the sox next year so I'll post their career stats to spark some debate on who is better and whatnot:


Garcia:

Season TM G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L ERA
1999 Sea 33 33 2 1 201.1 205 96 91 18 90 170 17 8 -- 4.07
2000 Sea 21 20 0 0 124.1 112 62 54 16 64 79 9 5 -- 3.91
2001 Sea 34 34 4 3 238.2 199 88 81 16 69 163 18 6 -- 3.05
2002 Sea 34 34 1 0 223.2 227 110 109 30 63 181 16 10 -- 4.39
2003 Sea 33 33 1 0 201.1 196 109 101 31 71 144 12 14 -- 4.52

Perez:

Season TM G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L SV ERA
1998 Atl 10 0 0 0 10.2 10 5 5 1 4 5 0 1 0 4.22
1999 Atl 18 17 0 0 93.0 100 65 62 12 53 82 4 6 -- 6.00
2001 Atl 24 16 0 0 95.1 108 55 52 7 39 71 7 8 -- 4.91
2002 LA 32 32 4 2 222.1 182 76 74 21 38 155 15 10 -- 3.00
2003 LA 30 30 0 0 185.1 191 98 93 28 46 141 12 12 -- 4.52


I'd take Garcia over Perez any day of the week due to the fact that He's proven and Perez just might be a fluke.

Dub25
12-11-2003, 04:14 PM
I see your point but Garcia scares me with his numbers getting worse over the last couple of years. Perez was pretty solid 2 seasons ago. Could it have been the fingerpointing going on in the Dodger clubhouse that made him pitch bad? I mean maybe he took the mound thinking he had to make every pitch perfect because he knew he wasn't going to get run support. I felt during Buehrle's bad first half he was doing just that because the offense was so bad.

ScottyTheSoxFan
12-11-2003, 04:36 PM
i say we get them both.

:KW
"yeah "

DSpivack
12-11-2003, 04:50 PM
When considerin their numbers...

Shouldn't we remember that Garcia is an AL pitcher; Perez is an NL guy?

StillMissOzzie
12-11-2003, 05:08 PM
What did Perez do in 2000? TJ surgery / rehab?

Besides that, I'm with DSpivack - Garcia pitched to 9 batters in the AL and would know the batters better vs. Perez in the NL, pitching to 8 batters + a pitcher.

SMO

Gumshoe
12-11-2003, 05:28 PM
If KW pulls Garcia, I'll personally make a THREAD saying how that was a really good move. Here is an AL pitcher that has a higher winning % than Colon in his career, he's relatively young, and he had 1 bad year. He's solid. I think with him in our staff our team would have a real shot next year. We'll see, but since it's probably the best move, KW won't be able to make it ... hehe

gumshoe

Palehose13
12-11-2003, 05:40 PM
I'll take either. They both look better than Wright or Schoenweiss.

Now that Brown went to the Yankmees, do you think Perez is still on the block?

oheeoh...magglio
12-11-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by Palehose13
Now that Brown went to the Yankmees, do you think Perez is still on the block?

The Dodgers are desperate for bats, but i'm not sure they will be excited to trade Perez after trading Brown unless they are putting their faith in Jeff Weaver.

kermittheefrog
12-12-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Gumshoe
he's relatively young, and he had 1 bad year.

You mean one good year right?