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cornball
12-09-2003, 11:45 AM
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/091sd2.htm


Pettitte, Ponson, Millwood and Maddux will not be pursued this year per the above link.

Iwritecode
12-09-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by cornball
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/091sd2.htm


Pettitte, Ponson, Millwood and Maddux will not be pursued this year per the above link.

Gee, what a big surprise!!!

and people still wonder why so many of us are negative on this board?

Unless KW can pull another Loaiza out of his ass this year, our rotation is going to be bad...

Foulke You
12-09-2003, 11:57 AM
"To us it has to make sense," he said. "We're not going to go out and overpay for mediocrity."

-Kenny Williams

I think Kenny learned his tough lesson from the Todd Ritchie deal. At least I can rest easy knowing KW probably won't trade Magglio Ordonez for an NL pitcher with a 10W-14L record and a 4.89 E.R.A.

Surprising about Ponson asking for a lot of money. Could be why his name hasn't surfaced in any MLB hot stove talk. His asking price is too high for most teams. Perhaps his price will fall back to Earth when he realizes he isn't going to get Bartolo money.

Tekijawa
12-09-2003, 11:57 AM
My favorite Quote from that Article!!!

But Williams warned that he won't make a deal just to make one.

"To us it has to make sense," he said. "We're not going to go out and overpay for mediocrity."


When did they adopt this stance?

cornball
12-09-2003, 11:59 AM
I think it also means a trade will happen soon.

Rocky Soprano
12-09-2003, 12:03 PM
KW seems to be getting a little smarter on who he wants and how much he will spend but maybe its the fact the the Sox "dont" have the money to spend.

MHOUSE
12-09-2003, 12:21 PM
I like that Kenny is being more patient and thinking through these things, but the fact remains that eventually we'll be stuck signing guys like Rick White and Jose Mesa to minor league deals and hoping that something good falls in our lap. Unless we're going with a three-man rotation of E-Lo, Burly, and Garland with Marte coming out of the 'pen every night, we're SCREWED. Get a move on Kenny. Do something.....

MisterB
12-09-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Tekijawa
"We're not going to go out and overpay for mediocrity."

When did they adopt this stance?

:walnuts
"Thankfully, sometime after I signed my contract."

Lip Man 1
12-09-2003, 12:35 PM
A few comments...

To me the most interesting quote from Williams came out of the Tribune story where he said "In the future, we'll have to work harder to re-sign our own free agents..."

I don't know what Williams means by that remark.

Free agency is all about one thing basically....money. The Sox claim they don't have it so how are they going to re-sign their own free agents, let alone get another team's?

They could try being "creative" with deferred money deals and incentive laden contracts but we saw how far that approach worked with a guy like Colon didn't we? (Who's agent, again for the record, told the Chicago papers in the week after the initial Sox offer, that the number of years (three) was fine but the money end was the issue. It turned out that three years was a problem and he never admitted that...)

That brings up another question. As others have pointed out teams like Arizona, for example, had little trouble getting players like Curt Schilling to agree to deferred money deals. What is it about the Sox that make players reluctant to also agree to this?

So getting back to my original point, I honestly don't know what Williams can do differently to change things. The only person who can is the team owner.

Lip

bobj4400
12-09-2003, 01:18 PM
"To us it has to make sense," he said. "We're not going to go out and overpay for mediocrity."

-Kenny Williams


So what exactly do we call paying Konerko 8mm, Koch 6mm, Valentin 5mm??? Overpaying for worse than mediocrity???

dougs78
12-09-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by cornball
I think it also means a trade will happen soon.


It basically has to mean that. We simply will have to make trades to fill out our roster (unless we plan on giving all the jobs to kids). That makes me a little sad becuase this is a depressed market, meaning that supposedly things can be acquired for reduced price without giving up players. Instead we appear to be ready to hand over good players just to fill the holes on our team.

If opening day was tomorrow we'd have many positions with really no players other than minor leaguers. Here they are:

2nd base
(harris appears to be literally our only option...with no backup)

centerfield
(Rowand, Borchard and Reed will apparently fight it out)

basically an entire bench
(Uribe, Alomar and who else??)

4th starter
(maybe a cheap free agent?)

5th starter
(Rauch, Cotts, Wright, ?)

closer
(We can pray that Koch regains form)

righty setup man
(Is Dan Wright really the answer here?)

lefty specialist
(???????)

2-3 more arms to fill out the staff
(panecheo, munoz, ginter, et al.)


Bottom line is that this team looks pretty yucky. We better figure out a way to fill some of these gaping holes without opening up new ones.

ChiSoxBobette
12-09-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by cornball
http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dssports/pro/091sd2.htm


Pettitte, Ponson, Millwood and Maddux will not be pursued this year per the above link.

Read the article in the SouthTown and according to the Tribune its wrong the Sox would'nt get a first round pick they'd get a 2nd round pick and that sandwich pick they're talking about