View Full Version : So your saying the Marlins have a chance?

10-14-2003, 01:42 PM
That title was with a "Dumb and Dumber" connotation... :smile:

From ESPN-
Let's face it: what lies ahead for the Marlins appears to be a daunting task. In order to force a Game 7, they must best Mark Prior, perhaps the best pitcher to come into baseball since Roger Clemens showed up in 1984. Is there any precedent for teams being in a similar predicament and somehow overcoming the odds to triumph?

Let's take a look at just a few of the precedents that involved teams in similar dire straits:

1924 World Series, Game 6
Art Nehf of the Giants pitched well but it wasn't good enough as New York lost Game Six to the Senators, 2-1 and then lost the next game and the Series 4-3. By this time in his career, Nehf was about league average, but he had been a top drawer guy in his day. Interestingly, he always pitched better in the World Series than he did in the regular season.

1925 World Series, Game 5
Hall of Famer Stan Coveleski was given the job of putting away the Pirates when his Senators took a 3-1 lead in the Series. Instead, he lost 6-3 and the Pirates also won the next two games to become the first team ever to come back from a 3-1 deficit. (The Cardinals also came back from 3-2 the next year, but Game 6 of that Series isn't a good precedent here because the Yankees reached down into their staff and came up with Bob Shawkey to start Game 6.)

1934 World Series, Game 6

Believe it or not, history might be on the Marlins' side.
Schoolboy Rowe was a year older than Mark Prior in 1934 when he was called upon to close out the Gashouse Gang in Game 6. He was two years into his career and was sporting a 35-12 lifetime record. He had already beaten the Cards once, but fell to Paul Dean 4-3. The Cards took the deciding game 11-0 in the midst of some famous mayhem.

1940 World Series, Game 6
For the third time in his career, Rowe was asked to finish off an opponent in the World Series (he had also started Game Five of the '35 Series against Chicago with Detroit leading 3-1) and for the third time he didn't manage to do it. This time he ran up against Bucky Walters of the Reds, who threw one of the better avoidance games in history. The Reds won Game Seven.

1957 World Series, Games 5 and 6
Lew Burdette and Warren Spahn both had shots at closing out the Yankees and neither pulled it off. Burdette ran up against a masterful performance by Bob Turley. Spahn pitched well but lost it in the tenth. The Yanks won their third straight in Game 7.

1971 World Series, Games 5 and 6
Dave McNally and Jim Palmer didn't finish off the Pirates when they had the chance, although Palmer pitched well enough to win through nine innings.

1986 World Series, Game 6
Like tonight for the Cubs, you had to like the Red Sox chances with Roger Clemens on the mound and a 3-2 lead in the Series. We all know what happened after Clemens left the game ...

There are other examples as well, but this should be enough to give the Marlins fans, or the people that attend their games when they're in the playoffs, reason to believe it is not necessarily hopeless.

10-14-2003, 01:49 PM
Odds are not that good, but the combination of the Cub's history with Cubdumb already making their world series plans it would be a beautiful conclusion to the Cubs season.