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Win1ForMe
09-20-2003, 12:11 AM
Yesterday Hawk mentioned that today's game was a sell out but I just saw the box score and the attendance was listed as only 32,812 ?

oheeoh...magglio
09-20-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Win1ForMe
Yesterday Hawk mentioned that today's game was a sell out but I just saw the box score and the attendance was listed as only 32,812 ?

Hmmm that's odd, I heard Hawk mention on wednesday the game was a sellout, and it looked like a sellout, or very close to it, on tv...there was for sure more than 32,812 there, that must be a misprint or something....

npdempse
09-20-2003, 02:15 AM
You have to walk through the gate to count for attendance. The game was indeed sold out, per signs at all ticket windows tonight.
Chilly night+losing streak+season ticket seats that never get filled (corporate BS)=low attendance.

hose
09-20-2003, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by npdempse
You have to walk through the gate to count for attendance. The game was indeed sold out, per signs at all ticket windows tonight.
Chilly night+losing streak+season ticket seats that never get filled (corporate BS)=low attendance.



That is not how the White Sox and MLB counts attendance, it's tickets sold.

The reason why it was a sell out was because of comped tickets. I believe coupons for free tickets were given away as a promotion . Fans in attendance with a free ticket are not counted in the official attendance because the visiting team's share of the revenue is based on tickets sold.

Hawk might have said it was a sell out but technically it wasn't. You could argue that it was because of the result of the free tickets no tickets were available for sale to the public at game time. Bottom line is the official attendance was 32,000+.


The National League use to have the policy of attendance based on turn style count for the day of the game. The home team did not have to share any revenue made off tickets sold unless that ticket was validated by a fan on the day of the game.(rain outs excluded)

The American League policy was to share all revenue made off the sale of tickets with the visiting team regardless if they show up or not. The National League stuck to their grubby little ways and eventually changed in the late 70's or early 80's to follow how the American League shared revenue with visiting teams.

voodoochile
09-20-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by hose
That is not how the White Sox and MLB counts attendance, it's tickets sold.

The reason why it was a sell out was because of comped tickets. I believe coupons for free tickets were given away as a promotion . Fans in attendance with a free ticket are not counted in the official attendance because the visiting team's share of the revenue is based on tickets sold.

Hawk might have said it was a sell out but technically it wasn't. You could argue that it was because of the result of the free tickets no tickets were available for sale to the public at game time. Bottom line is the official attendance was 32,000+.

The National League use to have the policy of attendance based on turn style count for the day of the game. The home team did not have to share any revenue made off tickets sold unless that ticket was validated by a fan on the day of the game.(rain outs excluded)

The American League policy was to share all revenue made off the sale of tickets with the visiting regardless if they show up or not. The National League stuck to their grubby little ways and eventually changed in the late 70's or early 80's to follow how the American League shared revenue with visiting teams.

It's just damned hard to figure out why the players and the fans don't trust the owners and the way they run their books...

Paulwny
09-20-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by hose


The National League use to have the policy of attendance based on turn style count for the day of the game. The home team did not have to share any revenue made off tickets sold unless that ticket was validated by a fan on the day of the game.(rain outs excluded)

The American League policy was to share all revenue made off the sale of tickets with the visiting regardless if they show up or not. The National League stuck to their grubby little ways and eventually changed in the late 70's or early 80's to follow how the American League shared revenue with visiting teams.

Thanks for the info, I was always puzzled by attendance count.

jabrch
09-20-2003, 10:34 AM
At the park, the announced attendance was 32,800...But that game was clearly sold out. The sad part is that the scalpers all had hundreds of tickets that they bought (probably using the Granton Marketing deal) that were absolutely worthless. We had 157 and moved to empty seats in the 4th row over the Sox dugout...

Great game...shame it was absolutely meaningless.

dllrbll7
09-20-2003, 12:27 PM
Ya the tickets were sold out on the website yesterday

ewokpelts
09-20-2003, 04:20 PM
there is no revenue sharing of gate reciepts per game...all revenue sharing is based off total money recieved...all teams participate at the end of the year.....home team keeps all money.....

...as for attendance...the number is based off what tickets were scanned.....before the scanners were used...the number was "paid attendance"....comp tickets count..because they are scanned into teh system...
Gene

ewokpelts
09-20-2003, 04:23 PM
the granton coupons do not create "comp" tickets.....the printed price on the tickets is half off the full price...same as gift certificates upgraded...the main reason why a huge bulk of tickets were sold was teacher's night...with 75%off tickets
Gene