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cheeses_h_rice
08-28-2001, 02:58 PM
Sox players you don't want to see in uniform next year?

My choices:

1. Alan Embree
2. Harold Baines
3. Josh Paul
4. Ken Vining
5. Jose Canseco


What about y'all?

KVinc
08-28-2001, 02:59 PM
:canseco
"I can run a 4.40 and steal 40 bases.'

Randar68
08-28-2001, 03:03 PM
1) Embree
2) Pulsipher
3) Baines
4) Paul
5) Clayton

honorable mention for their corpse ball this year:
Ray Durham and Singleton

cheeses_h_rice
08-28-2001, 03:04 PM
Have the Sox even used Pulsipher yet this year? I'd forgotten about him.

Re: Royce - the only reason I left him off the list is because he's signed through next year, and no one else would be stupid enough to take him @ his current salary. In my dream fantasy fairy world, Royce is gone and Jose is back at SS, 73 errors or not.

KVinc
08-28-2001, 03:07 PM
you mean 142 errors

Kilroy
08-28-2001, 03:29 PM
Embree
Liefer
David Wells
Paul
Baines

honorable mention:

Biddle
Canseco
Clayton

Iwritecode
08-28-2001, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by cheeses_h_rice
Sox players you don't want to see in uniform next year?

My choices:

1. Alan Embree
2. Harold Baines
3. Josh Paul
4. Ken Vining
5. Jose Canseco


What about y'all?

Nomar
Pedro
Manny
Everett



Well, you didn't specify a color. :)


It's true though, I would be perfectly happy if we didn't have to face any of these guys next year.

Soxboyrob
08-28-2001, 04:37 PM
In Order:

1. Baines
2. Embree
3. Jerry Manuel--Hey, he wears a Sox uni doesn't he?
4. Durham
5. Howry--the right-handed Embree.

idseer
08-28-2001, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Soxboyrob
In Order:


3. Jerry Manuel--Hey, he wears a Sox uni doesn't he?


i agree here ... except he did say players

mine would be

paul
alomar
canseco
baines
embree

oldcomiskey
08-28-2001, 04:45 PM
first of all this season is not entirely Jerrys fault--I place it in thirds--1/3 JM--1/3 the terrible offense from the guys who shouldve been hitting in April and May and 1/3 KW for bringing in Clayton. And without Boomer the young pitchers like Buehrle dont ,mature as fast--dont believe me? Ask Mark and Sean Lowe

1. got to be Hitless Clayton
2. Lord help me--but ole # 3 has got to go
3. Josh Paul
4. Singleton--only becasue I think Rowand is ready now
5. Herb Perry--only because I know he wont get the ABs to stay sharp---now if we get rid of Royce and keep Perry then number 5 is gonna be Embree

How can you say Canseco---the man has played his ass off for us

Clarkdog
08-28-2001, 04:53 PM
1. Embree - just awful
2. Paul - Why did we ever let Machado go over this guy?
3. Baines - He'll be the first 60 year old to get 3,000 hits
4. Singleton
5. Perry - need something better at third

idseer
08-28-2001, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by oldcomiskey
first of all this season is not entirely Jerrys fault--I place it in thirds--1/3 JM--1/3 the terrible offense from the guys who shouldve been hitting in April and May and 1/3 KW for bringing in Clayton.

And without Boomer the young pitchers like Buehrle dont ,mature as fast--dont believe me? Ask Mark and Sean Lowe


How can you say Canseco---the man has played his ass off for us

first ... what about the 1/3 being thomas out for the season?

second ... i just called sean and he says that's baloney! sitting next to the fat man made no difference what-so-ever!

and third ... i can say canseco because he's unnecessary, superfluous, a useless appendage, has no place to play with frank back!

Daver
08-28-2001, 04:56 PM
I ain't so sure Canseco will be with this team the second week of Sept. let alone next year.

oldcomiskey
08-28-2001, 04:59 PM
Thomas being out did hurt--but with this offense---Maggs. Lee, Konerko and others shouldve taken up the slack--and second Lowe said that Boomer was his biggest fan--Im assuming he meant in ways other than girth..And Canseco while he has no place for us next year has still played his ass off in 2001.. Now why you wanna make up stories about actually calling Sean I dont know--but to each his own I guess

idseer
08-28-2001, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by oldcomiskey
Thomas being out did hurt--but with this offense---Maggs. Lee, Konerko and others shouldve taken up the slack--and second Lowe said that Boomer was his biggest fan--Im assuming he meant in ways other than girth..And Canseco while he has no place for us next year has still played his ass off in 2001..

it doesn't matter what he did for us this year. the question was who do you NOT want to see in uniform next year. since you admit he has no place with the sox next year i can only assume you agree with me.

as far as wells being a 'fan' goes, well that's all nice and sweet, but it has precious little to do with anything. wells was no pitching coach! you think an occasional word on the bench made these kids better? prove it!

Randar68
08-28-2001, 05:08 PM
idseer, did you miss taking your
:prozac

again today??????

Relax, why does every single post of yours have to be laiden with attitude, disgust, insults, and/or cynicism???

oldcomiskey
08-28-2001, 05:09 PM
I do know this much--both Buehrle and Lowe have given credit to Boomer for their maturing so fast--true or not they believe it--Boomer is a winner with something to prove in 2002... And I do agree on Canseco--but he has been so much more than worthless--I wish there was a way he could be back next year

Randar68
08-28-2001, 05:18 PM
Hey, OC, couldn't agree more....WOW, did I just say that??? hehehehe

idseer
08-28-2001, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Randar68


Relax, why does every single post of yours have to be laiden with attitude, disgust, insults, and/or cynicism???

probably because o.c. has disparaged every post i've made here,
as if he's gunning for me. i will defend myself if you don't mind.

Jerry_Manuel
08-28-2001, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Clarkdog
2. Paul - Why did we ever let Machado go over this guy?
5. Perry - need something better at third

I guess they thought that Josh would be able to hit more then Machado could.

:crede
Hello Chicago!

oldcomiskey
08-28-2001, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by idseer


probably because o.c. has disparaged every post i've made here,
as if he's gunning for me. i will defend myself if you don't mind.

If I did it was quite unintentional--besides I save all that for BMR anyway

Bmr31
08-28-2001, 05:59 PM
Baines
Canseco
Liefer
Embree
Biddle

Dadawg_77
08-28-2001, 06:01 PM
1> Clayton I considering not renewing my partial season ticket plan if he is
back as the starting SS.
2> Baines He number needs to hanging on the wall not on a back.
3> Liefer He at best is career minor league star/major league journeyman
4> Embree If the Sox need to give runs at least let one of young learn by doing
it
5> Kenny Williams Well now that I think about it may be better for him to be in
a uniform. At least that way he wouldn't be working the phones.

oldcomiskey
08-28-2001, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Dadawg_77
1> Clayton I considering not renewing my partial season ticket plan if he is
back as the starting SS.
2> Baines He number needs to hanging on the wall not on a back.
3> Liefer He at best is career minor league star/major league journeyman
4> Embree If the Sox need to give runs at least let one of young learn by doing
it
5> Kenny Williams Well now that I think about it may be better for him to be in
a uniform. At least that way he wouldn't be working the phones.

we already had KW in a Sox uni--terrible fielder

Procol Harum
08-28-2001, 06:23 PM
These must be jettisoned, and in this order:

1.) Baines
2.) Durham
3.) Singleton
4.) Embree
5.) Biddle

Josh Paul is a concern, but I'm much more worried that Singleton and Durham must be moved to firm up some of our weaknesses befoer worrying about a back-up catcher. I'm sure Canseco will be playing elsewhere next year, otherwise he would have made the list. He has done a very good job for us this year within its context, but can't envision him fitting in for 2002.

NUKE_CLEVELAND
08-28-2001, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by cheeses_h_rice
Sox players you don't want to see in uniform next year?

My choices:

1. Alan Embree
2. Harold Baines
3. Josh Paul
4. Ken Vining
5. Jose Canseco


What about y'all?

CLAYTON!! CLAYTON!! YOU FORGOT ROYCE CLAYTON!!!!

Chisox353014
08-28-2001, 06:38 PM
1.Clayton
2.Clayton
3.Clayton
4.Biddle
5.Embree