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A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 12:56 PM
OK, let's go Sox. Shut em down Neal.

ndgt10
08-28-2003, 01:00 PM
Lineups courtesy of MLB.com

Chi. White Sox AVG
Alomar, R, 2B .263
Lee, LF .277
Thomas, DH .268
Ordonez, RF .321
Everett, CF .283
Konerko, 1B .237
Valentin, SS .238
Crede, 3B .259
Alomar, S, C .255


N.Y. Yankees AVG
Soriano, 2B .281
Johnson, 1B .290
Jeter, SS .319
Williams, CF .278
Sierra, DH .273
Matsui, LF .290
Boone, 3B .257
Rivera, J, RF .238
Flaherty, C .259



Chi. White Sox ERA
Cotts 4.85

N.Y. Yankees ERA
Mussina 3.18

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:03 PM
At least it isn't the B team line up.

jabrch
08-28-2003, 01:08 PM
5 innings from Cotts with under 3 runs, I'd be psyched. Then we can open up the bullpen that should be fairly well rested. I would not want to see cotts get pressed to deep today. Even if he is pitching well, I'd limit him to 5 innings. Don't let the Yankees go through the order too many times...eventually they will figure his stuff out.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:13 PM
Common Maggs lets get him home

kwschro
08-28-2003, 01:17 PM
YEES Everett 1-0

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:17 PM
That aboy Carl :smile:

Rocklive99
08-28-2003, 01:17 PM
Let's get some runs early for Neal

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:18 PM
Give the kid a lead. I'm glad to see it. Way to go, Everett!

Gammons Peter
08-28-2003, 01:19 PM
2-0

inta
08-28-2003, 01:19 PM
woo hoo carl!

JJAustin69
08-28-2003, 01:19 PM
Lets sweep these guys!

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:19 PM
Paulie Paulie 2-0 Sox and 25 pitches already for Musina.

StepsInSC
08-28-2003, 01:19 PM
way to go walnuts

StepsInSC
08-28-2003, 01:20 PM
jose's brother is named jose?

duke of dorwood
08-28-2003, 01:23 PM
What the hell was that?

Gammons Peter
08-28-2003, 01:23 PM
oops

StepsInSC
08-28-2003, 01:23 PM
what the heck was that carl

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:24 PM
Carl you dummy. Pay attention to the pitch count. Now we are forced to having Valentin lead off next inning.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by StepsInSC
what the heck was that carl

STOOOOOO-PID!

FoulTerritory
08-28-2003, 01:26 PM
I'm actually literally still confused about what just happened there. Was Carl walking to third because he thought it was ball 4, or was he stealing, or what? Very weird indeed.

34 Inch Stick
08-28-2003, 01:27 PM
Now tell me with a 2-0 lead would you rather have Buhrle or Cotts in there protecting it?

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:28 PM
Carl pulls a "Konerko"

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:30 PM
Oh yeah this was a good idea to start mr. Aerosmith - Walk this way.

inta
08-28-2003, 01:30 PM
[COLOR=teal] wow, cotts is on fire...

StepsInSC
08-28-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by FoulTerritory
I'm actually literally still confused about what just happened there. Was Carl walking to third because he thought it was ball 4, or was he stealing, or what? Very weird indeed.

yea it seemed like he thought the count was 3-2

FoulTerritory
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
Wow, hawk and DJ really giving it to JM for starting Cotts.

ShoelessFred
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
STARTING NEAL COTTS IN THIS GAME IS A HUGE MISTAKE

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
Hawk and DJ agree, should've been burly-man today

Unregistered
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by 34 Inch Stick
Now tell me with a 2-0 lead would you rather have Buhrle or Cotts in there protecting it? EXACTLY. Now sit back and watch the rook get destroyed...

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
Great start. Get Wright up. I can't believe I just said that

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
FU JERRY!!!!

Bases loaded, no one out. 2 straight walks!!!

YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:31 PM
NEAL COTTS SHOULD NOT BE PITCHING DURING A PENNANT RACE!!!

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:32 PM
14 walks in 4 games - SO FAR. Great

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:32 PM
What does Cotts have to make him a major league pitcher? He has horrid control, an average fastball, a poor change, and a miserable curveball. He might not get thru the first inning today.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by ShoelessFred
STARTING NEAL COTTS IN THIS GAME IS A HUGE MISTAKE

What did I tell you?!?!?!!?

I told you this was going to be a freebie to NY. This is f'n BS!!!!!

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:32 PM
:jerry
"I'm just stupid. I couldn't coach a little league team."

Unregistered
08-28-2003, 01:33 PM
The strangest thing is the fact that anyone is actually SURPRISED by this.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:33 PM
STILL NO ONE WARMING UP :angry: :angry:

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:33 PM
Get somebody up. We haven't lost this game yet, Manuel.

cadman
08-28-2003, 01:34 PM
man, this is exactly like his first game, i hope wright can bail him out again

MisterB
08-28-2003, 01:34 PM
Unlike most pitchers who have fans that hang out K's for each strikeout, we need to hang out BB's for Cott's walks.

Hmmmm, that might be a nickname: 'BB' Cotts...

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:34 PM
There are a lot of things I'd like to say now, but I can't for fear of getting tossed off the site.

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:34 PM
4-2 yanks ... this is ridiculous ... hawk sounds p*ssed that buehrle is not pitching

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:35 PM
Why hasnt KW gotten us a 5th starter? Relying on Cotts and Wright and Porzio this year has been a horrible mistake. I don't even want to calculate the Sox won-loss record during their starts.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:35 PM
Finally someone warming up 4-2 yanks. Get this kid out of there.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:35 PM
We have a boatload of off days. We don't need a fifth starter. I am beside myself right now.

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by CHISOXFAN13
There are a lot of things I'd like to say now, but I can't for fear of getting tossed off the site.

Amen ... I almost stayed away from my computer.

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by FJA
4-2 yanks ... this is ridiculous ... hawk sounds p*ssed that buehrle is not pitching

It's totally ridiculous. I'm tired of talking about it. Manuel blows.

ShoelessFred
08-28-2003, 01:36 PM
THIS IS EXACTLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY JERRY MANUEL BETTER NOT BE BACK NEXT YEAR. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN IF THIS TEAM MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

inta
08-28-2003, 01:36 PM
JESUS F'N CHRIST.


i hope someone shoots manuel. you dont start some kid against the yankees. now manuel has pissed of mark and destroyed cotts.

Buerhle should punch manuel in the head for being such a stooge.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:37 PM
Wow he got someone out. Great.

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:37 PM
Wow, we are giving Buehrle even more reasons to hate playing for the Sox. We've treated him like dirt, and we'll pay when he walks away in a few years.

FoulTerritory
08-28-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by FJA
4-2 yanks ... this is ridiculous ... hawk sounds p*ssed that buehrle is not pitching

Hawk sounds clearly and extremely pissed. Refreshing that he is just letting it hang out about this ridiculous debacle of stupidity.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:38 PM
As pissed as I am with Cotts right now, I'm fuming at Everett because who knows what could have happened in that inning. That changed the complexion of the whole game.

voodoochile
08-28-2003, 01:38 PM
Gee, WHO could have predicted that Cotts would melt down in a pennant race start in Yankee Stadium...

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:38 PM
The sad thing is, Cotts likely would have gotten shelled by the Tigers tomorrow. You cant pitch in the majors with the crappy control he has. KW still has a few days to trade for a 5th starter. Brian Anderson sure would have looked good in that spot.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by FoulTerritory
Wow, hawk and DJ really giving it to JM for starting Cotts.

I must say, when Hawk starts talking bad about something with the White Sox, it is very, very bad news for whoever it is he is talking about. Through the years the man has proven himself to be the surest mouthpiece for whatever Jerry Reinsdorf is thinking.

:hawk
"DJ, Jerry Manuel as Sox manager of the future looks like a sick, sick man today."

:reinsy
"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:39 PM
Cotts has now given the same number of runs in 1/3 an inning as the rest of the staff did in 18

brewcrew/chisox
08-28-2003, 01:39 PM
We didn't need to win this one--after all we won the first two.

This is further proof manuel is an idiot.

Why not let Buerhle pitch today and let Cotts throw against the worst team in the hostory of major league baseball tomorrow?

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:40 PM
YANK HIM NOW, jerk

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 01:40 PM
Walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk WALK WALK WALK

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:41 PM
Wright's in now. Your experiment didn't work out to well, now did it Jerry? ****ing moron.

kittle42
08-28-2003, 01:42 PM
How are Hawk and DJ taking this Cotts/Buehrle crap? The radio guys don't seem to think anything is wrong.

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:42 PM
The possible implications of this game:

1) Cotts' confidence: GONE.
2) Buehrle's happiness: GONE.
3) Clubhouse strife ... Hawk and DJ seemed to infer that Buehrle wasn't the only one pissed Cotts was starting. Hawk almost went as far to say that the players feel Jerry Manuel is saying this game isn't important.
4) Buehrle has a tough outing against Detroit, and as Hawk said, this team moves into "tailspin mode."

firejauron
08-28-2003, 01:42 PM
Guys, I'm at work unable to watch the game. What are Hawk and DJ saying about the decision to start the rookie? It sounds like they're letting him have it?

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:43 PM
The last thing this team needed was any controversy, and we have a pretty nasty one right now. Way to go Jerry!!

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by kittle42
How are Hawk and DJ taking this Cotts/Buehrle crap? The radio guys don't seem to think anything is wrong.

Hawk, in particular, is extremely pissed.

Iwritecode
08-28-2003, 01:43 PM
Where are those Manuel defenders who said we were over-reacting now???

Now we might have to go into Detroit with a worn-out bullpen too!!!


****ing idiot ---------------------> :jerry

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by firejauron
Guys, I'm at work unable to watch the game. What are Hawk and DJ saying about the decision to start the rookie? It sounds like they're letting him have it?

Welcome aboard ... it's too bad it's under these circumstances.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by FJA
Hawk, in particular, is extremely pissed.

And now we're going to chew up our bullpen with 7.2 innings of work. My God...

:angry:

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:44 PM
We'll end up in a tailspin now.

I want to cry or put my hand through a wall.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:44 PM
Nice line on Cotts. 3 hits, 4 walks and at least 4 ER in 1/3 an inning.

FarWestChicago
08-28-2003, 01:44 PM
At least the ESPN guys are absolutely shredding Manuel on national TV. He deserves to be thrashed in front of as large an audience as possible.

alohafri
08-28-2003, 01:45 PM
Cotts couldn't even get out of the first inning. Pathetic!!

I would rather have had Buerhle start and maybe sweep the Yanks and then lose the first game to Detroit than this crap. :angry: :angry: :angry:


(Mrs. Aloha)

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:45 PM
This might be harsh and irrational, but I never want to see Cotts pitch for the White Sox again. He has absolutely no control and judging by today, no guts!

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:46 PM
I want Wright back in the rotation.

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by balboner
This might be harsh and irrational, but I never want to see Cotts pitch for the White Sox again. He has absolutely no control and judging by today, no guts!

I won't go that far, but I sure as hell don't want to see him pitching again this season.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 01:46 PM
Gee, don't worry. We won the series. That means we can blow off the last game of the series. Nevermind that we only have 28 games left!!!!!

Manuel is a stupid ****ing bastard!

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:47 PM
There goes all momentum from the last few games. We better hope to god that we win tomorrow night.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:47 PM
Thank you Dan Wright. As I have said numerous times - you can check my posts. Dan should be our 5th starter. I guess he gets to be now but with a 3 run deficit. Put Cotts on the plane to Charlotte now.

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:48 PM
Top of the 2nd and we're working on a tomato award already. Mercy!

chuckn98229
08-28-2003, 01:48 PM
Maybe it's time to take Konerko, Thomas, Magglio, and Alomar out for a rest - after all, they played last night and had to come right back for an afternoon game! (JM logic)

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 01:49 PM
OMG that sucked.

We need the offense to go wild like the past two days. We have to erase that miserable start.

alohafri
08-28-2003, 01:49 PM
As bad as DW can be, he was rarely as bad as Cotts today. Can we end the Cotts experience NOW?!



(Mrs. A)

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by chuckn98229
Maybe it's time to take Konerko, Thomas, Magglio, and Alomar out for a rest - after all, they played last night and had to come right back for an afternoon game! (JM logic)

In black jerseys on an August afternoon too.

dougs78
08-28-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by FarWestChicago
At least the ESPN guys are absolutely shredding Manuel on national TV. He deserves to be thrashed in front of as large an audience as possible.

Yes they are. I think its Brantley that said something along these lines.

"This may be the worst decision I have seen by any manager the entire season. When the captain of the ship is steering you into an iceberg someone ought to grab the wheel."

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:50 PM
They key to us winning this game is to work the count against Mussina. If we can find a way to get into their pen, we can still win this game.

Dammit, we should be winning 2-0 right now.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by chuckn98229
Maybe it's time to take Konerko, Thomas, Magglio, and Alomar out for a rest - after all, they played last night and had to come right back for an afternoon game! (JM logic)

It makes perfect sense to me. Hell, get 'em on an early flight to Motown. Manuel wasn't serious about winning this one and now the chickens have come home to roost. No sense trying to get ourselves out of the hole when we have more important games coming up in Detroit!

alohafri
08-28-2003, 01:51 PM
check that--I meant "EXPERIMENT"

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:52 PM
You know what? I don't think I'd even care that much about this had Jerry Manuel not come out and said it was 99.9% that Buehrle was going to pitch. 99.9%

Hawk, who usually keeps his mouth shut, said that this created a clubhouse controversy even before the game began. He said if they lose this game, the players are going to feel Manuel is telling them this game doesn't matter. DOESN'T f'n MATTER.

Unbelievable. I hope KW is flipping over someone's desk after this one.

FoulTerritory
08-28-2003, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by LuvSox
In black jerseys on an August afternoon too.

I'm glad you pointed that out. I always notice that they are wearing those stinkin' black jerseys on hot days, and rarely at night.

Makes you wonder . . .

balboner
08-28-2003, 01:53 PM
Is it safe to say that if the Sox don't make the playoffs, this decision by JM sealed his fate? Even though there's no evidence Buehrle would have done better, people will point to this game as the turning point of the season.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 01:53 PM
Nice hit Sandy.

Viva Magglio
08-28-2003, 01:54 PM
Gee, I cannot possibly imagine why so many of our fans would stop watching/listening to our game and call up the Score right now.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:54 PM
Championship teams overcome adversity.

AS much as his decision blows, I hope our guys pcik themselves up and win in spite of the "so called" manager.

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:54 PM
Plenty of time left in this game. (JM is still an idiot though)

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by FarWestChicago
At least the ESPN guys are absolutely shredding Manuel on national TV. He deserves to be thrashed in front of as large an audience as possible.

Wow. I didn't know that. Are they carving him up good? He definitely deserves it.

Presumably this will eliminate the last of the "Manuel for Manager of the Year" talk. The sympathy vote he got from the national media after being booed at the all-star game is now a thing of the past.

FJA
08-28-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by balboner
Is it safe to say that if the Sox don't make the playoffs, this decision by JM sealed his fate? Even though there's no evidence Buehrle would have done better, people will point to this game as the turning point of the season.

I think it's a safe bet that will be the case. Manuel better shut himself away from the world tonight, because everyone from the Tribune to BBTN is going to be ripping him a new one if we lose this.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 01:57 PM
Mussina has thrown 51 pitches in two innings. Work the count, boys.

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by dougs78
"This may be the worst decision I have seen by any manager the entire season. When the captain of the ship is steering you into an iceberg someone ought to grab the wheel."

That's the perfect quote by Brantley.

Rocklive99
08-28-2003, 01:57 PM
The thing that scares me the most is what Hawk said about the rest of the players being mad and the rest of the season going into a tailspin. Don't forgot, Kansas City isn't losing either, and are adding players (Rondell and Brian Anderson).

dougs78
08-28-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge
Wow. I didn't know that. Are they carving him up good? He definitely deserves it.

Presumably this will eliminate the last of the "Manuel for Manager of the Year" talk. The sympathy vote he got from the national media after being booed at the all-star game is now a thing of the past.


Big time. As i posted earlier, they are saying some pretty harsh stuff. In fact, I'm not sure I"ve ever seen a national broadcast so harsh on a manager's decision.

Another quote was, "You cannot do anything to convince me this was the right decision. Buehrle should be starting this game."

kempsted
08-28-2003, 01:58 PM
We can still win this game. Mussina has thrown 50 pitches in 2 innings. If we can get to the bullpen - or score our 10+ runs we will still win.

ChiSox7
08-28-2003, 01:58 PM
Well, I'm just glad that everybody KNOWS that Buerhle would have only given up a couple of runs. What would have been really great was if Buerhle had gotten rocked by a GOOD yankees team, and then we have to run out Cotts against Detroit in a need to win situation. I'm not saying that what Manuel did was the right decision, but at the same time people are stupid to think that Buerhle would have automatically won. I know I wouldn't have wanted Buerhle to get rocked and then have to rely on Cotts for a win. That's how things go I guess.

sti3
08-28-2003, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by balboner
Is it safe to say that if the Sox don't make the playoffs, this decision by JM sealed his fate? Even though there's no evidence Buehrle would have done better, people will point to this game as the turning point of the season. wait, so 6 ER in his last 4 starts is no evidence? Mmmm-kay.

Viva Magglio
08-28-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by CHISOXFAN13
Championship teams overcome adversity.

AS much as his decision blows, I hope our guys pcik themselves up and win in spite of the "so called" manager.

JM will make sure they don't overcome this.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by balboner
Is it safe to say that if the Sox don't make the playoffs, this decision by JM sealed his fate? Even though there's no evidence Buehrle would have done better, people will point to this game as the turning point of the season.

Nobody loves 20/20 hindsight more than me. We won't know for sure what the turning point was until the season ends. However, I'll be right there with you offering an opinion. Trust me. :smile:

I would say today's game would be a top contender as "Manuel's Waterloo."

:cool:

ssang
08-28-2003, 02:00 PM
I hope everyone read my thread "TINKER TINKER TINKER...Damn it Jerry!" I posted it the split second I saw that Cotts was officialy starting tonight. 99.9% sure my F...ing ass! But hey, winning 2 of 3 is all we need to do becuase as you all know we've widened the lead sooooo much after our two blowout wins. GODAMN MORON!!!!! I hate you Jerry, and you need to die! And I mean that! Bevengton > Manuel

inta
08-28-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Well, I'm just glad that everybody KNOWS that Buerhle would have only given up a couple of runs. What would have been really great was if Buerhle had gotten rocked by a GOOD yankees team, and then we have to run out Cotts against Detroit in a need to win situation. I'm not saying that what Manuel did was the right decision, but at the same time people are stupid to think that Buerhle would have automatically won. I know I wouldn't have wanted Buerhle to get rocked and then have to rely on Cotts for a win. That's how things go I guess.


do you and manuel buy your crack from the same dealer?

ChiSox7
08-28-2003, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by inta
do you and manuel buy your crack from the same dealer?

Oh good. So you can see the future? Can you tell me some lotto numbers? No way to tell Buerhle would automatically win. He's never pitched in Yankee stadium either

kempsted
08-28-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Well, I'm just glad that everybody KNOWS that Buerhle would have only given up a couple of runs. What would have been really great was if Buerhle had gotten rocked by a GOOD yankees team, and then we have to run out Cotts against Detroit in a need to win situation. I'm not saying that what Manuel did was the right decision, but at the same time people are stupid to think that Buerhle would have automatically won. I know I wouldn't have wanted Buerhle to get rocked and then have to rely on Cotts for a win. That's how things go I guess.

Nice spin doctoring. Are you Jerry's PR guy. Nice Job. You are making it sound like a good thing this happend.

Rocky Soprano
08-28-2003, 02:03 PM
:firejerry

sti3
08-28-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Oh good. So you can see the future? Can you tell me some lotto numbers? No way to tell Buerhle would automatically win. He's never pitched in Yankee stadium either I can tell you for dang sure that he would have gone more than 1/3 inning. And if he loses, so what, he's not mentally destroyed.

kittle42
08-28-2003, 02:04 PM
Anyone saying who cares that Buehrle didn't start because we would have been "screwed" if he had gotten shelled is just plain wrong.

It doesn't matter if Buehrle pitched and they killed him. The decision to start Buehrle woudl have been the right one had he given up 10 runs in an inning.

The decision to start Buehrle would have been the right one even had Neil Cotts thrown a no-hitter.

Hindsight doesn't matter.

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Well, I'm just glad that everybody KNOWS that Buerhle would have only given up a couple of runs. What would have been really great was if Buerhle had gotten rocked by a GOOD yankees team, and then we have to run out Cotts against Detroit in a need to win situation. I'm not saying that what Manuel did was the right decision, but at the same time people are stupid to think that Buerhle would have automatically won. I know I wouldn't have wanted Buerhle to get rocked and then have to rely on Cotts for a win. That's how things go I guess.

I don't know that Buehrle would have won, but I'll sure as hell take my chances. Saving one of your best pitchers for THE TIGERS?!? THE TIGERS?!?

I DON'T CARE THAT THEY SWEPT US LAST TIME IN DETROIT. ANYONE BETTING ON IT BEING A POSSIBILITY AGAIN IS DUMBER THAN THIS GUY.

:jerry

kempsted
08-28-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Oh good. So you can see the future? Can you tell me some lotto numbers? No way to tell Buerhle would automatically win. He's never pitched in Yankee stadium either
No one said he would automatically win but the managers job is to put the team in a situation to win. Cotts has had now 4 bad outtings. OK two were not a disaster but none were good. He looked much more shaky in that win then Wright does.

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 02:05 PM
Wright is doing his job. I hope he's pissed enough at JM to shove it right up their Yankee butts.

ChiSox7
08-28-2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by kempsted
Nice spin doctoring. Are you Jerry's PR guy. Nice Job. You are making it sound like a good thing this happend.

Well I'm glad you know that your opinion is right. If you read the post you see that I said that JMs decision wasn't necessarily right. But you know everything, so what I say doesn't matter I guess. I'm glad so many people on this board know EVERYTHING

ChiSox7
08-28-2003, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by kempsted
No one said he would automatically win but the managers job is to put the team in a situation to win. Cotts has had now 4 bad outtings. OK two were not a disaster but none were good. He looked much more shaky in that win then Wright does.

NONE WERE GOOD!?! He gave up NO runs against ANA and four AT the ballpark at Arlington

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by kittle42
Anyone saying who cares that Buehrle didn't start because we would have been "screwed" if he had gotten shelled is just plain wrong.

It doesn't matter if Buehrle pitched and they killed him. The decision to start Buehrle woudl have been the right one had he given up 10 runs in an inning.

The decision to start Buehrle would have been the right one even had Neil Cotts thrown a no-hitter.

Hindsight doesn't matter.

Amen. If nothing else, this really screwed with the clubhouse. I hope they're able to overcome the idiot who is supposed to lead them.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 02:07 PM
Since everyone else on the board is taking care of the Manuel bashing, I will say that I am pleased with the way Wright has pitched since hitting the pen.

He can really help our cause by going 5 or 6 innings to save the bullpen.

Keep us in there Danny.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 02:07 PM
Well no one has done it so :tomatoaward

inta
08-28-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Oh good. So you can see the future? Can you tell me some lotto numbers? No way to tell Buerhle would automatically win. He's never pitched in Yankee stadium either

ROFLMAO.
i can guarantee buerhle would've done better than cotts.

Chisox353014
08-28-2003, 02:08 PM
Come on Danny Boy, we need you today. We can still win this game!!!

And let me say right now that I manage my co-ed, fatty pants, recreational, all-for-fun, 16" softball team with more of eye on winning than Jerry Manuel does his in-a-pennant-race-for-once, haven't won %*& in nearly a century, city DYING for a winner, Major League baseball team. And that really sticks in my craw...

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
NONE WERE GOOD!?! He gave up NO runs against ANA and four AT the ballpark at Arlington

You can give up walks with Anaheim and Texas (especially Texas) and get by. The Yankees will kill you if you give up walks like that. Cotts never should have started based on that alone. The fact that Manuel screwed with everyone and said Buehrle was probably starting just makes things worse.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 02:09 PM
So much for working the count. He threw like 5 pitches that inning.

ssang
08-28-2003, 02:09 PM
Hey ChiSox7.....Are you Jerry Manuel typing on a lap top in the friggin' clubhouse!?!!? I mean, how can you defend this move? ChiSox7......JUST SHUT UP ALREADY!!

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by CHISOXFAN13
Since everyone else on the board is taking care of the Manuel bashing, I will say that I am pleased with the way Wright has pitched since hitting the pen.

He can really help our cause by going 5 or 6 innings to save the bullpen.

Keep us in there Danny.

Agreed ... go get 'em Danny.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 02:11 PM
Disgusting. This is pathetic. I'm so mad.

ChiSox7
08-28-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by ssang
Hey ChiSox7.....Are you Jerry Manuel typing on a lap top in the friggin' clubhouse!?!!? I mean, how can you defend this move? ChiSox7......JUST SHUT UP ALREADY!!

Nice of you to be so civil and intelligent in your argument

phanreign
08-28-2003, 02:13 PM
I'm beginning to think Danny Wright should have started . . .

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 02:13 PM
This is the biggest tinker of the year for Manager Ghandi.

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:14 PM
Man, Wright is looking good ... getting a lot of hitters behind 0-2. It's really too bad we had to spot them five runs. :angry: :angry: :angry:

chuckn98229
08-28-2003, 02:14 PM
As long as JM believes that the Sox only need to win the 'series' and that there are throw-away games (e.g. today's game and the Sunday Seattle game on 8/3) we are destined to be frustrated and miserable until a REAL manager comes along. In one assinine move, he has managed to derail the team's momentum, disrespect one of the better pitchers in the game, and demolish the confidence of a rookie pitcher. Way to go, Jerry.

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 02:14 PM
Which player is the leader of this team? Situations like this dictate the need for a clubhouse leader. JM is stupid, Mussina is on. One of the guys needs to get the rest of 'em going.

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by LuvSox
Which player is the leader of this team? Situations like this dictate the need for a clubhouse leader. JM is stupid, Mussina is on. One of the guys needs to get the rest of 'em going.

Whoever it is should get into an argument with an ump, forcing Manuel out of the dugout, hopefully to get thrown out of the game.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
NONE WERE GOOD!?! He gave up NO runs against ANA and four AT the ballpark at Arlington :?: :?:
Previous three outings

2 1/3 2 hitts 2 runs 6 BB 1 SO vs Aneheim
5 2/3 5 hits 4 runs 2 walks
5 5 hits 1 run 5 walks.

His second game was his best. He got the win the last game but was in trouble every inning.

I don't know where you game up with NO runs against ANA.

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:17 PM
If anything good has come out of this game so far, Jerry Manuel's idiocy has been exposed on national television. Let's see 'em talk about us booing our own manager now!

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 02:17 PM
C'mon guys.. just get into that NY bullpen... we're only down <three> frickin runs... Torre's gotta be hoping Musina gets him DEEP into this game...

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 02:19 PM
Nice Carl!!!

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 02:19 PM
Come on boys, you're still in it

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by rwschm_bull
C'mon guys.. just get into that NY bullpen... we're only down <three> frickin runs... Torre's gotta be hoping Musina gets him DEEP into this game...

Agreed ... that's why I'm still holding out hope in spite of our resident idiot. That bullpen is depleated ... we need to work some counts, get some hits. I'll be very surprised if their bullpen is lights out today.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 02:19 PM
I know we are all talking about the negative impact a loss can have, but if we rally, I'm not sure we'll lose again.

WTG, Carl.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 02:20 PM
Way to go, Carl!

Can I assume a Sox victory today will be IN SPITE of Jerry Manuel and not credited to him as some here might assert? :?:

Rocky Soprano
08-28-2003, 02:20 PM
Nice shot by Everett!

phanreign
08-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Was there any doubt that every victory was in spite of Jerry Manual and evry loss can be attributed to him?

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Paulie could've beat the throw from Mussina

Rocky Soprano
08-28-2003, 02:27 PM
I hope they rip Manuel a new one even if we do win this game.

I cant stand this loser anymore. I never used to say anything about him but now I want him gone. This guy I going to blow our playoff chances.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by phanreign
Was there any doubt that every victory was in spite of Jerry Manual and evry loss can be attributed to him?

What color is hyperbole ? :D:

LuvSox
08-28-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by kempsted
What color is hyperbole ? :D:

Enough with the colors, it'll just confuse Grobstein.

Iwritecode
08-28-2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by ChiSox7
Well I'm glad you know that your opinion is right. If you read the post you see that I said that JMs decision wasn't necessarily right. But you know everything, so what I say doesn't matter I guess. I'm glad so many people on this board know EVERYTHING

I think you're missing the point. Besides not giving the team the best chance to win against arguably the best AL team of the decade, he's managed to piss off the entire team and screw up the confidence of a young pitcher all at the same time! That's just what I want to see in the middle of a pennant race...

hold2dibber
08-28-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Iwritecode
I think you're missing the point. Besides not giving the team the best chance to win against arguably the best AL team of the decade, he's managed to piss off the entire team and screw up the confidence of a young pitcher all at the same time! That's just what I want to see in the middle of a pennant race...

I agree that JM made the wrong decision, but everyone is getting way to riled up about it. First of all, none of us know just how pissed off Buehrle or the rest of the team is (they may be more bemused or disappointed or some might even think JM did the right thing), none of us know how much (or if) Cotts' confidence is screwed up, and the Sox might (might) still come back and win this game anyway. Moreover, the Sox now have a better chance to win tomorrow in Detroit than they would have had if Cotts was starting that game. Again, I think JM made the wrong decision. However, I think people are seriously overreacting and making a much bigger deal out of it than it warrants, and I don't think it is/was a season changing decision, or anything close to it.

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 02:44 PM
Another hit here would be HUGE Mags...

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 02:45 PM
Maggs grounds out to the shortstops too much.

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:47 PM
Bizarro Danny Wright ... I like it!

anewman35
08-28-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Moreover, the Sox now have a better chance to win tomorrow in Detroit than they would have had if Cotts was starting that game. Again, I think JM made the wrong decision. However, I think people are seriously overreacting and making a much bigger deal out of it than it warrants, and I don't think it is/was a season changing decision, or anything close to it.

Exactly. Personally, I'd rather win 2 out of 3 here and sweep Detroit than the other way around. There's really no difference, except that it's a less embarassing to not lose to Detroit. And with the way we've been hitting, and the Yankee pen that'll be in there soon, I'd say our chances for tying/winning this game are pretty good.

FJA
08-28-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
I agree that JM made the wrong decision, but everyone is getting way to riled up about it. First of all, none of us know just how pissed off Buehrle or the rest of the team is (they may be more bemused or disappointed or some might even think JM did the right thing), none of us know how much (or if) Cotts' confidence is screwed up, and the Sox might (might) still come back and win this game anyway. Moreover, the Sox now have a better chance to win tomorrow in Detroit than they would have had if Cotts was starting that game. Again, I think JM made the wrong decision. However, I think people are seriously overreacting and making a much bigger deal out of it than it warrants, and I don't think it is/was a season changing decision, or anything close to it.

As someone who was making a big deal about it, I've calmed down a bit, thanks to Danny Wright. I think if he can continue to keep us in this thing for another inning or two and we can work Mussina's pitch count, we will win this game.

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 02:52 PM
Wright's line so far... 4.2 1H 1BB 3K 60 pitches 35 strikes

I think he's earned his chance...

balboner
08-28-2003, 02:52 PM
I think the most important thing to come out of this game is that Neal Cotts should not pitch another game for the Sox this year. Send him down to the minors, and make him work on his control. Also, who knows if Buehrle would have gotten rocked. If he did, we would all be freaking out about how we'd lose two in a row w/Cotts going tomorrow.

Iwritecode
08-28-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
I don't think it is/was a season changing decision, or anything close to it.

I guess we'll find out at the end of September...

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 02:55 PM
US Air has lots of cheap flights from NYC to Charlotte, too...

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:03 PM
Carl is the only one who knows how to hit Mussina I guess.

Come on guys.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:04 PM
Why is it that everyone in the Boone family gives us hell? Lead off double.

hold2dibber
08-28-2003, 03:06 PM
They need to get some clutch hits, or at the very least, start really working Mussina deep into counts; he's thrown 105 pitches through 6. If they can't actually score some runs next inning, here's hoping they can at least force him to throw 15 or 20 pitches, so we get a shot at their middle relief in the 8th.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:08 PM
Jeff Nelson is warming up. We're screwed.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:11 PM
Wow. Our pitchers can't field bunts. First Anaheim does it, now New York. Don't they teach this crap in ST?

Good lord.

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by SoxDemon
Jeff Nelson is warming up. We're screwed.


Nelson has been getting bombed since going back to NY, maybe we can continue the trend.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:16 PM
Jeff Nelson against us, is God!

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:18 PM
Hey, common guys we need those 10+ runs tonight much more than the last two nights. Go SOX

dickallen15
08-28-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by bobj4400
Nelson has been getting bombed since going back to NY, maybe we can continue the trend.


He has given up 2 runs in 8 innings with 11 k's. If that's getting bombed..................

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 03:20 PM
>>Hey, common guys we need those 10+ runs tonight much more than the last two nights. Go SOX

just like Sunday afternoon.... that's baseball...

hold2dibber
08-28-2003, 03:22 PM
Can somebody give me an update as to what's going on - I can't get any info from ESPN, MLB.com or TheSportingNews.com about anything after the top of the 6th. What's happening?

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by dickallen15
He has given up 2 runs in 8 innings with 11 k's. If that's getting bombed..................


I think he has allowed a lot of inherited runners to score. I know the first game he pitched, he gave up about 4 runs to cost them a game.

dickallen15
08-28-2003, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by bobj4400
I think he has allowed a lot of inherited runners to score. I know the first game he pitched, he gave up about 4 runs to cost them a game.

He's only given up 6 hits.

Procol Harum
08-28-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by SoxDemon
Why is it that everyone in the Boone family gives us hell? Lead off double.

Yep--Aaron, Brett, Pat, Debbie--the whole stinkin' clan.

:jerry
"That homer we gave up to Debbie on an 0-2 count sure didn't light up my life."

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by hold2dibber
Can somebody give me an update as to what's going on - I can't get any info from ESPN, MLB.com or TheSportingNews.com about anything after the top of the 6th. What's happening?
Go back to MLB.com - it is updating if you go to game day. (We went down 1-2-3 in the 7th. :(:

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:30 PM
This game is over...lets start thinking about the Tigers.

FJA
08-28-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by bobj4400
This game is over...lets start thinking about the Tigers.

If we can maybe pick up a run in the 8th, Rivera has been brutal lately. That's assuming he'll pitch the 9th ...

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 03:35 PM
I'd like to hope the Rangers could help us out tonight and salvage one game against the Royals but Valdez is pitching tonight... it will probably be 4-0 again after the first inning and we can go to bed early tonight...

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 03:38 PM
today's line for White Sox pitchers (excluding our 1-in-1,000 starter, Mr. Cotts)

6.2 IP, 3 H, 1R, 1W, 4K

inta
08-28-2003, 03:38 PM
did anyone listening to rooney n' farmer hear them playing Neil Diamond 'sweet caroline' over the stadium PA when they came back from commercial?

so weird... i just had to laugh.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:39 PM
3-0 to Thomas, and then he strikes out.

Figures.

faneidde
08-28-2003, 03:40 PM
Been in class all day and I taped the first part of the game. Nothing like getting back from a bunch of stupid lectures to see that JM has thrown away this game. We all know beating the Tigers is more important than sweeping the Yankees. What a moron. I am officially on board now, Fire Jerry Manuel.

MisterB
08-28-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by anewman35
Exactly. Personally, I'd rather win 2 out of 3 here and sweep Detroit than the other way around. There's really no difference, except that it's a less embarassing to not lose to Detroit.

Except that sweeping the Yanks would be a huge confidence builder, whereas sweeping the Tigers should be a routine occurance.

Procol Harum
08-28-2003, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by inta
did anyone listening to rooney n' farmer hear them playing Neil Diamond 'sweet caroline' over the stadium PA when they came back from commercial?

so weird... i just had to laugh.

Those New Yawkas think that Neil Diamond is one of the all-time greats...because he's from New York...

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:44 PM
Look at Carl kickin arse. Wow man, if it weren't for you, We'd only have 1 run.

faneidde
08-28-2003, 03:44 PM
One time Paulie.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 03:46 PM
Jose, you are due to put one in the upper deck.

faneidde
08-28-2003, 03:46 PM
RBI single for Paulie. 6-5 1 Out.

StepsInSC
08-28-2003, 03:46 PM
That was beautiful the way paulie sat back on that pitch

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:46 PM
Nice Paulie!!!!

Damnit Jerry, if you start Buehrle, we could be winning this game.

Fnmkwsjhflkwefjwlfjwlfwe

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:47 PM
Not bad. Now it is a one run game :smile: :smile: :smile:

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by faneidde
One time Paulie.

nice work...now willie harris in for paulie. LETS GO!!!!

Eddie Gaedel
08-28-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by SoxDemon
Nice Paulie!!!!

Damnit Jerry, if you start Buehrle, we could be winning this game.

Fnmkwsjhflkwefjwlfjwlfwe

hindsight is 20/20

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:48 PM
OK they are brining in the Lefty - I say pitch hit with Graffy.

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:48 PM
Tony G time...

SoxxoS
08-28-2003, 03:48 PM
Hindsight is 20/20

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Eddie Gaedel
hindsight is 20/20
Except that we said it way before the game what an idiot Manuel was for pitching Cotts today.

faneidde
08-28-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Eddie Gaedel
hindsight is 20/20
Yes, but so was foresight in this case.

CHISOXFAN13
08-28-2003, 03:49 PM
It was the wrong move and everyone has said that.

We are now down 6-5 so let's wporry about finishing this rally now!

Eddie Gaedel
08-28-2003, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by kempsted
Except that we said it way before the game what an idiot Manuel was for pitching Cotts today.

yes, but who could say they wouldn't have scored 6 anyway?

FJA
08-28-2003, 03:50 PM
C'mon, Tony ... 2B, HR ...

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 03:50 PM
Even if the Sox do win, which would be a miracle, Manuel is still an idiot for taking a series for granted.

Eddie Gaedel
08-28-2003, 03:51 PM
joe....joe....joe....

SoxFanDan
08-28-2003, 03:53 PM
joe crede is the magic man, mark my words

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Eddie Gaedel
yes, but who could say they wouldn't have scored 6 anyway?
That is just plain stupid. 5 of the runs were scored on a AA pitcher in 1/3 of an inning where Manuel let him keep pitching. He walked 4 guys for crying out load.

Hangar18
08-28-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by FoulTerritory
I'm glad you pointed that out. I always notice that they are wearing those stinkin' black jerseys on hot days, and rarely at night.

Makes you wonder . . .

Its the Starting pitchers prerogative to choose Which Jersey to Wear

kempsted
08-28-2003, 03:54 PM
Crede has to face Rivera now. :(:

SoxFanDan
08-28-2003, 03:54 PM
um why arent we stealing willie

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:55 PM
Thinking about willie too much...

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Hangar18
Its the Starting pitchers prerogative to choose Which Jersey to Wear

Another reason not to start Cotts... he doesn't understand the energy-absorbing properties of black jerseys during day games!

:)

SoxFanDan
08-28-2003, 03:57 PM
do you think the sox hit sandy in the 9th or pinch hit

hold2dibber
08-28-2003, 03:58 PM
I sure as hell would hope they'd hit Daubach (and his .372 OBP) against Rivera in the 9th instead of Sandy.

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by SoxFanDan
do you think the sox hit sandy in the 9th or pinch hit

daubach??

cheeses_h_rice
08-28-2003, 03:59 PM
What inning is it? Yahoo Gamechannel is stuck in the 6th with the Sox still down 5-3.

It's 6-5, right?

JasonC23
08-28-2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by bobj4400
daubach??

Can't, Daubach is now in at 1B.

faneidde
08-28-2003, 04:00 PM
Jeff Brantley talking about why the White Sox bullpen hasn't been that good despite the stuff of Marte and Gordon:
"I'll tell you why that haven't been that good, that guy (Manuel) doesn't know how to use them."

Amen

White_Sock
08-28-2003, 04:02 PM
The ESPN guys are still talking trash about JM - as it's well deserved:

"the sox have this guy(Marte) and flash gordon who can throw 95 with snapping breaking stuff. I can tell you why they're have problems, it's because this guy(JM) doesn't know how to use them."

SoxFanDan
08-28-2003, 04:02 PM
its obvious the national media is laughing at jerry now

dougs78
08-28-2003, 04:03 PM
Brantley with another dig at Manuel.

They were just talking about how good the individual pitchers in Sox bullpen were and why the overall relief corps has not pitched that well.

Brantley says, "I know. Its because they don't know how to use them."

Man, he has the same feelings on Manuel that the majority of this board has.

joecrede
08-28-2003, 04:03 PM
Putting Daubach at first in the bottom of this inning was another silly move by Manuel. Olivo should have been behind the plate and Alomar moved to first with Daubach pinch hitting for Alomar in the 9th.

thepaulbowski
08-28-2003, 04:04 PM
what's the score now...espn is stuck in the top of the eighth inning with magglio on first and carl at the plate

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by SoxFanDan
its obvious the national media is laughing at jerry now

I was joking before when I said this game might be Jerry Manuel's Waterloo. Maybe it's not such a joke? :cool:

rwschm_bull
08-28-2003, 04:04 PM
ESPN.com, MLB.com, et. al. have all ground to a halt...

Can't get the game on internet radio..
keep the p-b-p going guys!

kempsted
08-28-2003, 04:05 PM
Why did he put Daubach in at first and not save him for pinch hitting?

kempsted
08-28-2003, 04:06 PM
Oh and by the way :tomatoaward :tomatoaward

thepaulbowski
08-28-2003, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge
Another reason not to start Cotts... he doesn't understand the energy-absorbing properties of black jerseys during day games!

:)

but, according to Dusty Baker that would make them better during day games :D:

faneidde
08-28-2003, 04:06 PM
6-5 Yankees

2 out in the 8th. Marte is getting squeezed by this jerk behind the plate.

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 04:06 PM
great...walk flaherty to get to soriano. smart.

SoxFanDan
08-28-2003, 04:06 PM
if jerry was a real manager he would go out there, get ejection and get his team pumped

QueerGirrl
08-28-2003, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by thepaulbowski
but, according to Dusty Baker that would make them better during day games :D:

LOL!!!!! I like that!!!

faneidde
08-28-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by SoxFanDan
if jerry was a real manager he would go out there, get ejection and get his team pumped
Especially the way Marte was getting squeezed. Frank had to yell from the dugout because Manuel is a turd.

Soriano RBI single, next runner hosed at the plate. Yanks by 2, Sox coming up.

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 04:09 PM
What the hell is Marte pitching to Soriano for? OMG Jerry, are ****ing kidding me?!?!?!!!!??!?!?!!??

Thanks for nothing you ass!

Hangar18
08-28-2003, 04:10 PM
Rooney and Farmer are HOT. theyre saying some of Martes Pitches are Strikes, and not being called. and the REPLAY SHOWED BOONE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM freakin tired of bad calls
going against us. The umps just gave them the ins run

hold2dibber
08-28-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by faneidde
Especially the way Marte was getting squeezed. Frank had to yell from the dugout because Manuel is a turd.

Soriano RBI single, next runner hosed at the plate. Yanks by 2, Sox coming up.

Ouch. That's a big run for the Yankmees - I would have had a much better feeling going into the 9th down 1 than down 2. Crap sandwich.

ssang
08-28-2003, 04:11 PM
The ONE positive of this latest episode of Manuel's incompetence is that the national media can finally see what we;ve known for 3 years now. Hey Berman, still bothered that we booed his ass as the ASG??? I didn't think so....FAT-ASS!!!

A.T. Money
08-28-2003, 04:12 PM
Once again, the walk crosses home plate.

Christmas in August for New York.

kempsted
08-28-2003, 04:12 PM
The good news is Manuel used his last lefty on the bench for a DEFENSIVE REPLACEMENT. or did something happen to Konerko?

faneidde
08-28-2003, 04:13 PM
Infield single by Sandy, Soriano took his sweet time and Alomar busted it down the line. Sandy tweaked his ankle on the bag tough.

D'Angelo F Death
08-28-2003, 04:13 PM
Infield hit for alomar, what else is new...

...oh wait a second, it's that Alomar!

kempsted
08-28-2003, 04:13 PM
Sandy with the hit!. Now let the other Alomar do something!

dougs78
08-28-2003, 04:14 PM
Way to go Sandy! Does that remind anyone else of Tom Beringer's character from Major League beating out that bunt???

kempsted
08-28-2003, 04:15 PM
Rowand is the only guy on the bench. Use him to pinch hit for Thomas :smile:

FJA
08-28-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by kempsted
The good news is Manuel used his last lefty on the bench for a DEFENSIVE REPLACEMENT. or did something happen to Konerko?

Willie Harris came in to run for Konerko. I can think of two ways Daubach remains as a PH off the bench.

1) Willie Harris plays first base
2) FRANK THOMAS PLAYS FIRST BASE

With this idiot :jerry I think No. 1 is a greater possibility.

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 04:15 PM
that insurance run is going to kill us.

THE_HOOTER
08-28-2003, 04:15 PM
Why was our last lefty used as a defensive replacement?

SoxFanDan
08-28-2003, 04:16 PM
anyone else agree robbiesucks

PaleHoseGeorge
08-28-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by ssang
The ONE positive of this latest episode of Manuel's incompetence is that the national media can finally see what we;ve known for 3 years now. Hey Berman, still bothered that we booed his ass as the ASG??? I didn't think so....FAT-ASS!!!

I wish Berman was paying attention. Of course he is probably way too busy inventing whacky nicknames for the new NFL season. He couldn't give a rat's ass about baseball -- and it shows. :angry:

bobj4400
08-28-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by FJA

2) FRANK THOMAS PLAYS FIRST BASE



As a DH, he isnt eligible to play the field.