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34 Inch Stick
08-05-2003, 08:55 AM
On Sunday the Sox had sold 25,000 for Monday's game. That means a walk up of almost 18,000. I imagine there will be a similar situation tonight, given another half price night (it is also government employee night).

fledgedrallycap
08-05-2003, 08:57 AM
There should be a big crowd, being half price night and nice weather in the forecast, but I don't know if it will equal last night.

bobj4400
08-05-2003, 09:05 AM
Just checked online, and you can still get two together in 154, and 4 together in 109, so I think attendance will be MUCH lower. Maybe 30,000 tonight.

THE_HOOTER
08-05-2003, 09:06 AM
I wouldnt pay a dime to see this team after last night.

There is no point cheering for the Sox because the ****ing manager will **** it up somehow.

79 pitches and a 3 run lead.

What a ****ing idiot.

Rocky Soprano
08-05-2003, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
I wouldnt pay a dime to see this team after last night.

There is no point cheering for the Sox because the ****ing manager will **** it up somehow.

79 pitches and a 3 run lead.

What a ****ing idiot.


What a great fan!

Last time I checked Manuel doesnt compose the entire White Sox team. I go to cheer the Sox not Manuel.

fledgedrallycap
08-05-2003, 09:14 AM
You cannot get half-price discounts online, unlike Monday games; so if anything the walk-up should be larger. However, if they break 35,000 I'll be surprised since they lost yesterday.

thecell
08-05-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
I wouldnt pay a dime to see this team after last night.

There is no point cheering for the Sox because the ****ing manager will **** it up somehow.

79 pitches and a 3 run lead.

What a ****ing idiot.

I bought an undercooked hot dog there last night!! That's it for me!! I won't pay another dime to watch a team that sells undercooked hot dogs!!

guillen4life13
08-05-2003, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
I wouldnt pay a dime to see this team after last night.

There is no point cheering for the Sox because the ****ing manager will **** it up somehow.

79 pitches and a 3 run lead.

What a ****ing idiot.


I'll cheer for them because I can't bring myself to do otherwise. But last night, I was cussing at the TV when the beloved General pulled Garland. What the hell was he thinking?! Garland was still going strong! Just one base hit, and they have to pull him! ***!?!?

A.T. Money
08-05-2003, 09:36 AM
The manager "PaNiCkEd"!!!!!

:rwhite:
"I told you!!!"

vegyrex
08-05-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by thecell
I bought an undercooked hot dog there last night!! That's it for me!! I won't pay another dime to watch a team that sells undercooked hot dogs!!

Yeah and I got wet once when it rained there. That's outrageous!! I will never go back until the Sox management address this issue. :smile: :D:

THE_HOOTER
08-05-2003, 10:10 AM
Well after last night's game I just cannot wait to get back to the park to avoid gangbangers on every level.

They need to stop half price night or cage these freaks when they get in the park.

I would like Jerry Manuel in that cage as well. :D:

Jerko
08-05-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
Well after last night's game I just cannot wait to get back to the park to avoid gangbangers on every level.

They need to stop half price night or cage these freaks when they get in the park.

I would like Jerry Manuel in that cage as well. :D:

I bet they at least can the Tuesday half price nights next year if this garbage keeps up. I was looking forward to tonight's game for weeks and now I don't even know if I want to go with all the animals there. And the best thing is, they're not even Sox fans! It's just "cool" to go to half price nights and it's "something to do". Kind of sounds like fans of another team in town.......and we get to sit with them every Monday, Tuesday, and firework night. Brutal.

kevingrt
08-05-2003, 11:11 AM
But see Tuesday is Pepsi Half Price Tuesday so you have to actually go up to the Cell and show them the Pepsi and get your half price tickets... That means tons and tons and tons of walk ups I bet!

MarqSox
08-05-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Jerko
I bet they at least can the Tuesday half price nights next year if this garbage keeps up. I was looking forward to tonight's game for weeks and now I don't even know if I want to go with all the animals there. And the best thing is, they're not even Sox fans! It's just "cool" to go to half price nights and it's "something to do". Kind of sounds like fans of another team in town.......and we get to sit with them every Monday, Tuesday, and firework night. Brutal.

Exactly. We need lower attendance.

THE_HOOTER
08-05-2003, 11:24 AM
I would much rather have lower attendance than the pudds that were at the park last night.

bobj4400
08-05-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
I would much rather have lower attendance than the pudds that were at the park last night.

Same here...as exciting as it was to see a full house in the stands, reading the message board this morning, has made me ashamed of Sox fans. I would rather have 20,000 people in the seats enjoying the game, than 43,000 people, of which, half are idiots with tattoos all over their bodies looking for fights or to jump an ump/coach.

Dont blame it on the drinking either. I have been to about 100 games at The Cell since getting out of college in 2000, and have been overserved at most of them; not once have I even come close to getting in a fight. It is people that go there looking for fights that actually find them.

Rocky Soprano
08-05-2003, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
I would much rather have lower attendance than the pudds that were at the park last night.


http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/reinsy.jpg

"My type of fan. I was beginning to think if the fans kept this up I would have to spend some money. Good thinking there, less fans is a good thing."

Randar68
08-05-2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by bobj4400
Same here...as exciting as it was to see a full house in the stands, reading the message board this morning, has made me ashamed of Sox fans. I would rather have 20,000 people in the seats enjoying the game, than 43,000 people, of which, half are idiots with tattoos all over their bodies looking for fights or to jump an ump/coach.

Let's not stereotype or anything... Jesus.

THE_HOOTER
08-05-2003, 11:59 AM
He is not stereotyping at all unfortunately.

The crowd last night was primarily gangbangers, and it's a crappy crowd to be around.

they do the wave, they fight from the 7th inning on, and they completely ruin hanging out on the concourse.

I will say however, that the fans sitting in the good seats are some of the best, knowledgable fans aroud.

voodoochile
08-05-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
He is not stereotyping at all unfortunately.

The crowd last night was primarily gangbangers, and it's a crappy crowd to be around.

they do the wave, they fight from the 7th inning on, and they completely ruin hanging out on the concourse.

I will say however, that the fans sitting in the good seats are some of the best, knowledgable fans aroud.

The UD wasn't so bad, IMO. There were some scuffles, but nothing got out of hand near me. Of course I don't hear well and I tend to pay attention to the game on the field, so I probably missed some stuff.

What ticked me off was the guy beside me who didn't take off his Sox cap during the National Anthem. Even after some guy behind us yelled "take off your cap" this 22 YO putz just left it on his head. But he looked cool...

Higher attendance means more trouble makers that's a fact, but the Sox need higher attendance to increase payroll, so we will all have to put up with more idiots if we want the Sox to be able to compete regularly.

FJA
08-05-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by THE_HOOTER
I would much rather have lower attendance than the pudds that were at the park last night.

I almost hate to say it, but I agree. Don't get me wrong, I love going to the park when there are 43,000+ there, but, quite frankly, if I have the choice of going to the park when there are 37,000 fans minus the 6,000 idiots, I'm willing to look at the blue seats.

voodoochile
08-05-2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by FJA
I almost hate to say it, but I agree. Don't get me wrong, I love going to the park when there are 43,000+ there, but, quite frankly, if I have the choice of going to the park when there are 37,000 fans minus the 6,000 idiots, I'm willing to look at the blue seats.

How do you propose to let in the 37K good fans while excluding the 6K "bad fans"?

HITMEN OF 77
08-05-2003, 12:15 PM
Is it really that bad at the games now? I haven't been to a Sox game in Chicago for a long time and I can't remember it being like that. By the way, what do season tickets run for box seats behind the third base dugout area?

FJA
08-05-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by bobj4400
Dont blame it on the drinking either. I have been to about 100 games at The Cell since getting out of college in 2000, and have been overserved at most of them; not once have I even come close to getting in a fight. It is people that go there looking for fights that actually find them.

I agree here as well ... don't just blame it on drunk Flub fans either. Because I've also been at the Cell with drunk Flub fans who might say idiotic things, but never take it past good-natured barbing back and forth. Don't get me wrong--I'd love it if we could seriously blame all of our problems on Flub fans, but the fact of the matter is, there are a lot of people that come out in big crowds that sure as hell aren't there to watch a baseball game.

FJA
08-05-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
How do you propose to let in the 37K good fans while excluding the 6K "bad fans"?

I'm not proposing we exclude the 6K ... I'm just saying that if you asked me to choose between a full stadium with a percentage of drunks looking for a fight or a stadium not quite full but without that 6K, I'd choose the one that's not quite full. I'm certainly not in favor of excluding anyone from a baseball game if they have a ticket (unless, of course, they're doing something like carrying a gun into the stadium). Maybe they stay home, maybe they go to the Urinal ... I don't really care where they go.

And believe me, I'm not against drinking at baseball games. Like everyone else, I've been overserved often ... but I'm still there to see a baseball game. I'd rather people not there to see the game stay home.

I can deal with it, but the thing that concerns me the most is that Sox fans already have a pretty bad reputation; it's not deserved, but it's there. Brawls in the corners of the upper deck do nothing but add fuel to the fire.

Jerko
08-05-2003, 12:29 PM
Funny, I was at all 3 all star dates and nothing bad really happened fight-wise. That's because the "half price hooligans" didn't have access to any tickets. Between MLB and the season ticket holders, there were actually non-animalistic people at the park in a sellout crowd, and the place was swamped with Cub fans on those nights and there still were no fights. It's quite easy to see who the rabble-rousers are, the lower to mid 20 year olds whose beer muscles come out after 2 beverages that have to impress their equally bimbonic 18 year old girlfriends who already probably have 3 kids and 2 baby daddies and are casing the joint for guys even though they're with Lance Romance at the game. Stereotyping, yes I am. So as long as there are half price nights, we will be subject to the wave startin, home run throwbackin, 23 year old hard guys who get hammered on 2 beer jerkwads. At least nobody ran onto the field I guess. Ah, there's always tonight...........

bobj4400
08-05-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Let's not stereotype or anything... Jesus.

It is no longer a stereotype when the statement becomes a fact.

TornLabrum
08-05-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by HITMEN OF 77
Is it really that bad at the games now? I haven't been to a Sox game in Chicago for a long time and I can't remember it being like that. By the way, what do season tickets run for box seats behind the third base dugout area?

It all depends on where you sit. I was in Sec. 119. Everybody was civil, although I did get sick of the guy behind me saying to his girlfriend, "At Wrigley blah blah blah."

There were three fans ejected around the tenth row in Sec. 120. One guy wearing a Royals jersey complained to Security about something, to the boos of the people around him as he came back down with them. He ended up being the first ejected when he began pumping his fists above his head. One security person knocked his hands down, but he persisted and was escorted out.

Three other security people went down to the area he'd come from and talked to a couple of people who were escorted out after maybe 3-4 minutes of conversation. Other than that, nothing went on anywhere near us. It was obvious from the whole thing that there was no brawling. My guess is language.

As I said, it all depends on where you sit.

CHISOXFAN13
08-05-2003, 02:11 PM
Anyone else get a glimpse of the guy who was ejected for banging on the panel which contained the section number in the upper deck.

As security escorted him out, he tossed his Thomas jersey into the lower deck.

Very smart move. Have another.

voodoochile
08-05-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by CHISOXFAN13
Anyone else get a glimpse of the guy who was ejected for banging on the panel which contained the section number in the upper deck.

As security escorted him out, he tossed his Thomas jersey into the lower deck.

Very smart move. Have another.

So he got drunk enough to get ejected and to make matters worse, he threw away his $150 jersey? Too stupid to be a Sox fan anyway...

alohafri
08-05-2003, 02:19 PM
Hitmen of 77:

My boss has season tix in Section 142 behind the dugout. His full season package for 4 seats, (including 1 parking pass per game) cost $9153.00.




(Mrs. Aloha)

MarqSox
08-05-2003, 05:09 PM
Last night's attendance propelled the Sox into 23rd place in home average, jumping ahead of Pittsburgh and Cleveland. We're now about 500 per game behind Minnesota for 22nd. Pathetic, I know, but there it is. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance)

voodoochile
08-05-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by MarqSox
Last night's attendance propelled the Sox into 23rd place in home average, jumping ahead of Pittsburgh and Cleveland. We're now about 500 per game behind Minnesota for 22nd. Pathetic, I know, but there it is. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance)

Hold it... The Sox are out-drawing Cleveland? It's trollin' time... Man, the Tribe trolls used to hang their hat on that attendance issue...

JJAustin69
08-05-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Hold it... The Sox are out-drawing Cleveland? It's trollin' time... Man, the Tribe trolls used to hang their hat on that attendance issue... Still the mistake by the lake. Just dressed up a little nicer.

HITMEN OF 77
08-06-2003, 01:49 AM
I've heard the phrase many times, and I hate Cleveland, but how did the "mistake by the lake" get started?

Shoeless Joe
08-06-2003, 03:24 AM
Originally posted by HITMEN OF 77
I've heard the phrase many times, and I hate Cleveland, but how did the "mistake by the lake" get started?

It's a derogatory term for Cleveland since it's on the south shore of Lake Erie. I guess their city is improving but except for a decent stadium and the R&R Hall of Fame it's not much of an active city. Besides, their river actually caught on fire once!

hose
08-06-2003, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by HITMEN OF 77
I've heard the phrase many times, and I hate Cleveland, but how did the "mistake by the lake" get started?



They beat out Gary, Indiana for the honors :D:

voodoochile
08-06-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by HITMEN OF 77
I've heard the phrase many times, and I hate Cleveland, but how did the "mistake by the lake" get started?

After the river caught on fire they had to change the slogan from "A Lovely Little Rivertown" and that was the best they could come up with... :D: