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34rancher
08-23-2001, 10:13 PM
Career numbers:
Batting Average
.276 .319
At-Bats
6337 5542
Hits
1749 1770
Doubles
274 364
Triples
41 10
HR
435 348
RBI
1206 1193
Walks
609 1193
On-Base %
.341 .438
Divison Titles
0 3
OPS
.879 1.015
K's
1659 847


Will the best player in Chicago please stand up???

Jerry_Manuel
08-23-2001, 10:16 PM
Player A is: :shammy
Player B is: :hurt

cheeses_h_rice
08-23-2001, 10:17 PM
:moron

34rancher, I don't appreciate you bringing career facts and statistics into this discussion. Only a Scum Sox fan would do such a lowly thing!

Don't you know that it's only the last 4 years that matter when discussing "the best of all-time"?

34rancher
08-23-2001, 10:19 PM
Give that man a prize. Kind of wild how "THE GREATEST EVER" doesn't really seem so incredible when you consider that these numbers include Wrigley, Coors, Enron, the Milwaulkee Brewers staff. I just wonder how many of Thomas' doubles would have been basket shots in the little league field?

34rancher
08-23-2001, 10:35 PM
Thanks Jag-Off Moronetti. Did I mention that Milwaukee sucks? Soso has 28 Hr against them in the last 4 years. Is there no wonder that guys like Big Mac, Sosa, Greg Vaughn, Bonds, Piazza etc. do so much better in the NL? I only wonder what guys like Griffey, Thomas, Manny, Gonzo, Pudge and A-Rod could do over there in their primes? Does anyone notice that only one of those names that I listed has ever won a World Series? Is there anymore proof that the HR is the most over-rated stat in the game today?

doublem23
08-23-2001, 10:37 PM
http://207.25.71.145/baseball/mlb/features/1998/yankees/flashbacks/images/121889photo.jpg
Mariotti, I may be dead, but I'll still kick your ass, and as for you Sosa, I'd like to see you hit 60 homers when your drunk off your ass!

Iwritecode
08-24-2001, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by 34rancher
Career numbers:
Batting Average
.276 .319
At-Bats
6337 5542
Hits
1749 1770
Doubles
274 364
Triples
41 10
HR
435 348
RBI
1206 1193
Walks
609 1193
On-Base %
.341 .438
Divison Titles
0 3
OPS
.879 1.015
K's
1659 847


Will the best player in Chicago please stand up???

Thank you 34rancher. I had mentioned this before when people were comparing Thomas and Sosa. I just didn't have the numbers. Like I said, they are remarkably similiar except for homeruns and K's. Walks, batting average and on-base % aren't real close either.

voodoochile
08-24-2001, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Iwritecode


Thank you 34rancher. I had mentioned this before when people were comparing Thomas and Sosa. I just didn't have the numbers. Like I said, they are remarkably similiar except for homeruns and K's. Walks, batting average and on-base % aren't real close either.

The funny thing is if Frank had ShamMe's AB's he would have close to 400 HR also...

Tragg
08-24-2001, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by voodoochile


The funny thing is if Frank had ShamMe's AB's he would have close to 400 HR also...

One of the reasons he doesn't have his ABs is because he appreciates the value of the walk.

Iwritecode
08-24-2001, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Tragg


One of the reasons he doesn't have his ABs is because he appreciates the value of the walk.

:shammy
I have no idea what you are talking about. Walks aren't valuable, only zingers are. Especially solo shots when the team is down 10 - 1.

KVinc
08-24-2001, 04:57 PM
dont forget Sosa has played 140 more games than Big Frank and Sosa has only had one injury riddled season(96) where as big Frank has had problems ever since 96 with only 2000 being his real 93 % to 100% year but then he also had a sprained ankle that nagged for the whole year, sure frank played 100 plus games in the 96-present stretch but still he was never 100% healthy like :shammy