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xil357
07-16-2003, 08:19 AM
First of all, hats off to MLB and the AL and the Chicago White Sox.

From watching the game on Dallas' FOX-4, it looked to be an orderly and safe atmosphere at the Cell. The park looked great. It was nice seeing Sox logos all over the place, in the dugout, but always burning into the minds of national viewers. That kind of positive media saturation cannot be undervalued. Good weather -- not like the two rain delays at the Urinal in 1990.

The game was exciting, won in the last at-bat by the home team which mounted a strong comeback from a pretty big deficit. It was back and forth and competitive. It had something for everyone -- good defensive gems, some long homers, lots of good pitching and the tension built toward the end. No showboating other than the first base coach miscue in the first inning that was played for some laughs and Posada's kid (my wife liked that touch). It was a short game (2:38?) and hopefully the Nielsen ratings will reflect that quick competitive games keep viewer interest.

It was good that McCarver at least twice had to eat crow -- first when his pre-game prediction of a high scoring game (especially from the NL because there were so many first-time AL pitchers) was denied, and then when his prediction that it would be a "six inning game" because "The Great Dusty Baker" chose three lock-down closers was proven wrong. The game was good fodder for the argument that the AL is stronger and tougher than the NL.

And who served up the game winning homer -- to a first-time All Star who this time one year ago was in AAA Oklahoma City? That's right, the supposedly all-world closer from the NL team owned by ... News Corporation (FOX parent company) and Rupert Murdoch!

And Mark Prior didn't get to pitch, denying a slobbering sideline reporter from gushing about him and the Cubs ad infinitum.

Kudos to Fox for the blues and Chicago-themed music going into commercial breaks.

All in all, it doesn't get much better than this, and perhaps it will shut up some of the critics of the concept of tying WS home-field advantage to the league that won the AS game.

Of course as a Sox fan I wanted Frank there, and I wanted Sox hitters to perform better, but I can't argue with Loaiza's performance. KW and the Sox have to come out smelling like a rose for picking him up off the scrap heap. It is these small victories that make an otherwise bitterly disappointing Sox season just a bit sweeter.

If the media was fair and balanced, they would HAVE TO ADMIT that the White Sox organization did a terrific job and represented themselves well on an international stage.

:)

Now for some beefs:

MLB/FOX: How about selecting Chicagoans to sign the Star Spangled Banner and God Bless America? How about showing the Canadian National Anthem on TV? Call it cheesy, but one of the parts I like best about the AS game is hearing Oh Canada, which from a purely musical perspective is much more stirring and dramatic than the Star Spangled Banner. Maybe with Rupert Murdoch's FOX running things, they didn't want to piss off the warmongering "America: Love it or Leave it" Crowd. Please tell me that Wayne Messmer sang Oh Canada, he is first class at that.

FOX: The crowd noise was almost absent during the game. I know that it had to have been MUCH louder at the game than it seemed on TV. Fox must have mixed it really, really low, because from the telecast one had to struggle to hear the boos of Baker, Wood, Prior and Manuel, and the cheers for Maggs and E. Lo. It really detracted from the atmosphere. It's not like they had to make room in the mix for Buck and McCarver during the introduction, after all. And the ooh-eee-ooh-Magg-lio chant was barely audible. Too bad Maggs' at bats were not longer to where the chant could have built up more to overcome FOX's crappy production. It is a very original chant that more viewers would have enjoyed hearing. Oh well, at least it wasn't on cable and I could watch from home.

FOX: Too many cheesy sound effects when going to replays or information graphics.

MLB / Richard M. Daley / U.S. Navy: OK, this beef is a bit ridiculous -- but isn't the jet flyover getting a bit routine? I don't have any problem with saluting our men and women in arms, but let's spice it up a little. I know that stunts are a bit unsafe (although the Blue Angels and Air Force Thunderbirds are the best and safest in the world) How about having the Blue Angles fly in formation SUPERSONIC!!! Sure, a lot of windows would be broken (nothing that some duct tape to residents and businesses in a 10-mile radious wouldn't cure), but it has been done before (in South America during the Cold War). Better yet, how about an SR-71 Blackbird flying over at it's top speed -- Mach III. Talk about putting on a SHOW and leaving the crowd BREATHLESS! If Daley won't agree to allow a supersonic flyover, then how about a squadron of massive B-52 Bombers escorted by the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds? Or have the Blue Angels fly in slow, then rapidly LIGHT THE AFTERBURNERS AND GO FULL THROTTLE and pull up to fly straight up into the sky right above the field to about 30,000 feet and then disperse? All I am asking for is to have my jaw drop to the floor in amazement.

In any case, hopefully the Sox can parlay this AS game success into some positive press, although I am not optimistic about that.

Hangar18
07-16-2003, 08:30 AM
THEY MIXED THE CROWD BOOS DOWN? NO WAY??!!!!
Please tell me the BOOS were heard on TV ???

fledgedrallycap
07-16-2003, 08:45 AM
You could definitely tell the crowd reactions, but it the mic was not set to the volume to feel the intensity. Most players, coaches and fans said afterward it was very, very load; and A-Rod said it was the most intense he has heard it since the 2000 Playoffs.

xil357
07-16-2003, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Hangar18
THEY MIXED THE CROWD BOOS DOWN? NO WAY??!!!!
Please tell me the BOOS were heard on TV ???

I heard the boos (and the cheers for E. Lo and Maggs, and the ooh-eee-ooh Magg-lio) because I was listening for them and anticipated them. But the crowd noise was mixed low in FOX's (or should I call it FAUX) audio production. Honda was nice a clear and audible, but he obviously was patched in directly from his mic to the FOX mix. The crowd noise SOUNDED rather underwhelming on the telecast, but real Sox fans like me know that it had to have been an absolute ZOO in person in the park.

Nancy Faust also was awesome, as usual. My wife (who never has been to a Sox game at the Cell) was very impressed and complimented Nancy without me even asking her what she thought about the organist first. I believe her comment was "Wow, that organist can play THAT song!"

chuckn98229
07-16-2003, 11:14 AM
Positive coverage from Fox's Seattle affiliate. The park formerly known as Comiskey looked great. However, you could barely hear the well-deserved boos for the cubbies, et.al. Wish they had gotten someone better to sing the National Anthem.

voodoochile
07-16-2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by chuckn98229
Positive coverage from Fox's Seattle affiliate. The park formerly known as Comiskey looked great. However, you could barely hear the well-deserved boos for the cubbies, et.al. Wish they had gotten someone better to sing the National Anthem.

Hey, Welcome Aboard! :D:

Watching her jog to the microphone was pretty interesting though. Two concepts for her next time she is on National TV with a camera in her face:

1)Shoulder straps

2)Bra

harwar
07-16-2003, 11:25 AM
The audio on espn radio was definately much better and louder as i had both on at the same time.Also,texas has great baseball fans.I lived there for years and went to every White Sox game during the middle to late 80s' when i was home.The only possible execption was when Robin Ventura charged the mound against Nolan Ryan.I really wish he hadn't done that,as that little stunt made my life miserable for weeks.

Foulke You
07-16-2003, 11:32 AM
I had my stereo on for the intros because I wanted to hear the boos for the Cubs players and the cheers for Loaiza, Everett, and Maggs. I heard the boos clearly but I do agree that the mixing could have been better. The standing ovation for Maggs coming to the plate was also nice and loud. The Magglio chant was very low from the PA speaker but the crowd noise after the o-e-o of "MAAAAGGLIO!!" came through loud and clear. :D:

Brian26
07-16-2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Hey, Welcome Aboard! :D:

Watching her jog to the microphone was pretty interesting though. Two concepts for her next time she is on National TV with a camera in her face:

1)Shoulder straps

2)Bra

She should also lay off the carbs for awhile. She looked like the typical 23-yr old Wrigleyville chick who wears a belly-shirt with a belly-button ring even though she's got a pot belly like Terry Bevington from drinking too much Old Style at Barleycorn.

MikeKreevich
07-16-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
She should also lay off the carbs for awhile. She looked like the typical 23-yr old Wrigleyville chick would wears a belly-shirt with a belly-button ring even though she's got a pot belly like Terry Bevington from drinking too much old style at Barleycorn.
Tell it brother. LOL

xil357
07-17-2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by chuckn98229
Positive coverage from Fox's Seattle affiliate. The park formerly known as Comiskey looked great. However, you could barely hear the well-deserved boos for the cubbies, et.al. Wish they had gotten someone better to sing the National Anthem.

I notice you are from Bellingham. My sister lives there, and I visited your neck of the woods last March (the day it snowed). Great city and such beautiful scenery. At this time of year -- it has been near 100 for about 10 days in Dallas with plenty of ozone -- I envy you.

hsnterprize
07-17-2003, 08:03 AM
As far as the local TV coverage was concerned, I commend the Chicago press for really making U.S. Cellular Field a "great place to watch a ballgame". I saw so many people oogling over how the ballpark looked, and last night on CLTV (a local 24-hour CNN-style news channel), a sports panel said that it's about time the south side ballpark got good press, and that people should get over the misconceptions and common complaints about the place. Personally, I think the "Cell" looks great, and I know it'll look even better once all the renovations are done.

With the FOX TV coverage, the boos were mixed in with the cheers when the Cubs' reps and Jerry Manuel were introduced. Obviously, the mikes were turned down, but you could still hear the loud cheers for Loaiza and Magglio. I didn't hear how the crowd sounded with Everett. I'm sure it was also positive since he's wearing the Sox colors...however, that's just my personal assumption.

With all due respect to Ms. Carlton, I COULD'VE SANG THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BETTER THAN SHE DID. And if anyone wants to call me out on it, I can prove it, too. Regardless on whether she lip-synched it or not (and it looks so obvious she did), she sounded horrible. Why couldn't MLB get a Chicago-based singer to perform the song? I don't know. However, hearing Nancy Faust tickle the ivories like she did was also a thrill. She even made the boring opening rounds of the previous night's home run berby entertaining. What would the Sox be without Nancy? God forbid we ever find out anytime soon.

I heard the loud cheers and the "O-E-O...MAGGLIO" chant when Maggs cams to the plate. I felt good to know that famous chant was going out over a national audience. It would've been nice if the chant was a little louder so people can unmistakably hear what was said. It also would've been nice to see Maggs homer off of Billy Wagner. That way, the H.R. celebration would have been appropriate instead of singing for Jason Giambi.

All Star Game 2003 was great to watch. I wish I could've been there. I would've booed the Cub reps just as loudly as possible. If the national press doesn't understand why we're doing that, then they just don't get it. Hopefully, someone smart enough will come to this site...he or she will learn why we Sox fans love our team as much as we do...and why we can't stand the immediate competition.