Foulke You
06-23-2003, 03:19 PM
I will often go to other team's website's to see what the other fanbases have to say about a series against our White Sox. I do this for a lot of the White Sox opponents so I felt obligated to see what the idiot fans of the lovable losers had to say after this weekend's series. Let me say I was quite entertained by what I read. I left out the posters names and which site because I don't want to bring any flame/trolling wars to WSI. I just thought you guys might get a kick out of this. I could have spent hours picking apart these posts but I don't have that much time to waste. Are Cub fans arrogant and clueless or what? Check this out:
Opinion of Cub fan #1-
Since Interleague play began in 1997, the White Sox have, except for 1998, consistently outplayed the Cubs in head-to-head matchups. I believe the reason for this is simple, the series is bigger for the White Sox than it is for the Cubs. However, I cannot blame the players for having that be the case.
The reason that the series is bigger for the Sox than for the Cubs is that these are the big series every year for the Sox, while they are just 2 of many big series for the Cubs. The Sox do not come close to any divisional rivalry as strong as the Cubs-Cardinals, or the Cubs-Brewers for that matter. Ironically, perhaps their strongest division rivalry was taken away in '98 when the Brewers jumped to the NL.
Even when the Sox have been good their big series (ex. - vs. Cleveland in 2000) down the stretch have not been as big as the Cubs series have.
This is not the case for the Cubs. The Cardinals series' are always just as big as the Sox series & bigger in years like 2001 & this year when playoff contention is on the line. The Brewers series continue to take on growing importance despite the Brewers' continued futility against the rest of the league. Series down the stretch against Houston will likely be just as big as the White Sox series. Let's not forget what will be the biggest series (hopefully) until October, the Yankees series.
I can't blame the Cubs' players for not making as big a deal out of the White Sox series as the Sox players do. It's a lot easier to get up for a series when it's the biggest one of your season.
Opinion of Cub fan #2-
I agree that the Cubs have more rivals on their slate, but another contributing factor is the fans.
Let's face it. These six games out of the year are what Sox fans live for each year. They can finish their usual 81-81 year after year and still deem their season a success so long as three or four of those 81 wins are against the Cubs.
Ask yourself this: Why else has Jerry Manuel, a career .500 manager with the excpetion of one fluke season three years ago, been able to keep his job year in and year out?
Simple: It's because of his success against the Cubs. So what if he loses every series from here on out, so long as he beats the Cubs? That's what important, right? Beating the Cubs?
In short, the fans put more pressure on the Sox to win these games than they do the Cubs. Ask any Cubs fan who they'd rather beat, and I guarantee 75% would say the Cardinals.
I'm not bashing Sox fans, but it's in their blood to hate the Cubs with everything they have.
What else do they have to live for, really? They constantly have to live each day of their lives in the shadow of the Cubs (by their own admission), get far less air time than the Cubs, have a far less fan base (nationally and locally) as the Cubs, and have nowhere near the popularity as the Cubs.
If Cubs fans were to live each day of their lives as Sox fans, with nothing else to live for but six baseball games out of the season, I guarantee the results would take a complete 180.
:wills
"Can you say drill-rods?"
Opinion of Cub fan #1-
Since Interleague play began in 1997, the White Sox have, except for 1998, consistently outplayed the Cubs in head-to-head matchups. I believe the reason for this is simple, the series is bigger for the White Sox than it is for the Cubs. However, I cannot blame the players for having that be the case.
The reason that the series is bigger for the Sox than for the Cubs is that these are the big series every year for the Sox, while they are just 2 of many big series for the Cubs. The Sox do not come close to any divisional rivalry as strong as the Cubs-Cardinals, or the Cubs-Brewers for that matter. Ironically, perhaps their strongest division rivalry was taken away in '98 when the Brewers jumped to the NL.
Even when the Sox have been good their big series (ex. - vs. Cleveland in 2000) down the stretch have not been as big as the Cubs series have.
This is not the case for the Cubs. The Cardinals series' are always just as big as the Sox series & bigger in years like 2001 & this year when playoff contention is on the line. The Brewers series continue to take on growing importance despite the Brewers' continued futility against the rest of the league. Series down the stretch against Houston will likely be just as big as the White Sox series. Let's not forget what will be the biggest series (hopefully) until October, the Yankees series.
I can't blame the Cubs' players for not making as big a deal out of the White Sox series as the Sox players do. It's a lot easier to get up for a series when it's the biggest one of your season.
Opinion of Cub fan #2-
I agree that the Cubs have more rivals on their slate, but another contributing factor is the fans.
Let's face it. These six games out of the year are what Sox fans live for each year. They can finish their usual 81-81 year after year and still deem their season a success so long as three or four of those 81 wins are against the Cubs.
Ask yourself this: Why else has Jerry Manuel, a career .500 manager with the excpetion of one fluke season three years ago, been able to keep his job year in and year out?
Simple: It's because of his success against the Cubs. So what if he loses every series from here on out, so long as he beats the Cubs? That's what important, right? Beating the Cubs?
In short, the fans put more pressure on the Sox to win these games than they do the Cubs. Ask any Cubs fan who they'd rather beat, and I guarantee 75% would say the Cardinals.
I'm not bashing Sox fans, but it's in their blood to hate the Cubs with everything they have.
What else do they have to live for, really? They constantly have to live each day of their lives in the shadow of the Cubs (by their own admission), get far less air time than the Cubs, have a far less fan base (nationally and locally) as the Cubs, and have nowhere near the popularity as the Cubs.
If Cubs fans were to live each day of their lives as Sox fans, with nothing else to live for but six baseball games out of the season, I guarantee the results would take a complete 180.
:wills
"Can you say drill-rods?"