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Daver
06-03-2003, 01:17 PM
The Brewers take Anthony Gwynn in the second round.

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by daver
The Brewers take Anthony Gwynn in the second round.

Thats great, now we can't waste a pick on him.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
Thats great, now we can't waste a pick on him.

Amen. Brew Crew gonna be losing for a long long time.

Daver
06-03-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
Thats great, now we can't waste a pick on him.

LOL!! I was thinking the same thing.

chosk8
06-03-2003, 01:21 PM
Oakland just selected Omar Quintanilla as the 3rd pick in the ROUND 1 SUPPLEMENTAL. Beane got Williams again. That was basically our pick for Durham. Instead we get Jon Adkins.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by daver
LOL!! I was thinking the same thing.

Daver, wanna start a round 2-5 thread or something?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by chosk8
Oakland just selected Omar Quintanilla as the 3rd pick in the ROUND 1 SUPPLEMENTAL. Beane got Williams again. That was basically our pick for Durham. Instead we get Jon Adkins.

No, he got Quintanilla and Bryan Snyder, SF's first round slot.

chosk8
06-03-2003, 01:27 PM
Brad Sullivan, Brian Snyder and Omar Quintanilla are the A's picks.

LuvSox
06-03-2003, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Amen. Brew Crew gonna be losing for a long long time.

Misery loves company. :(:

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 01:31 PM
On the subject of Gwynn, whats with baseball's obsession with relatives of good baseball players? Guys like Anthony Gwynn, Jake Blalock and Michael Garciaparra get drafted much higher than they should be just because they are the son or brother of major leaguers.

Vsahajpal
06-03-2003, 01:32 PM
Sox select Ryan Sweeney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woo!

Daver
06-03-2003, 01:33 PM
Second round pick for the Sox is Ryan Sweeney,OF.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
On the subject of Gwynn, whats with baseball's obsession with relatives of good baseball players? Guys like Anthony Gwynn, Jake Blalock and Michael Garciaparra get drafted much higher than they should be just because they are the son or brother of major leaguers.

Steve Balboni's son just got picked. His high school K/BB rate for 2003? 51/5!!!

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
On the subject of Gwynn, whats with baseball's obsession with relatives of good baseball players? Guys like Anthony Gwynn, Jake Blalock and Michael Garciaparra get drafted much higher than they should be just because they are the son or brother of major leaguers.

In such a large scale scouting process, it is easier to go see names you recognize. This is just a guess, but laziness and the modern obsession with genes seem to be likely culprits.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by daver
Second round pick for the Sox is Ryan Sweeney,OF.

Holy cow...

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by daver
Second round pick for the Sox is Ryan Sweeney,OF.

Good pick for the Sox. We'll see if they want him as a hitter or a pitcher.

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Good pick for the Sox. We'll see if they want him as a hitter or a pitcher.

Well they did say "outfielder" Ryan Sweeney on the phone. I'm really hoping they want his as an outfielder.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Good pick for the Sox. We'll see if they want him as a hitter or a pitcher.

Why didn't he play during the spring?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Why didn't he play during the spring?

Iowa prep season is just starting now.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
Sox select Ryan Sweeney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woo!

Where you guys following along?

OfficerKarkovice
06-03-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Why didn't he play during the spring?

Iowa doesn't have spring baseball...I've played against this kid a few times...trust me he is a stud. This is a HUGE steal for us!!! I was all for taking him with the 15th pick...getting him in the second round is awesome!

Randar68
06-03-2003, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
Well they did say "outfielder" Ryan Sweeney on the phone. I'm really hoping they want his as an outfielder.


Did he slide due to signability? Seems he was a sure-fire first rounder or supplemental pick just a few days ago.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Where you guys following along?

I'm on Baseball Primer. Under "Clutch Hits," there's a draft day thread.

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Did he slide due to signability? Seems he was a sure-fire first rounder or supplemental pick just a few days ago.

He does have signability issues.

BTW - I'm following along with MLB.com radio.

Daver
06-03-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Where you guys following along?

I have the MLB audio feed.Try it it's working.

MRKARNO
06-03-2003, 01:47 PM
MLB describes Sweeney as an lhp:


Tall, strong, athletic body. Fastball has tailing life with occasional sink. Flashes quality 3/4 sharp slider. Knows how to pitch. Competes. Well built LHP. Strength and durability. Great composure.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:03 PM
A lot of catchers are being taken... I don't think Landon Powell is going to last ver much longer.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:09 PM
Another outfielder?

Daver
06-03-2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Another outfielder?

My thoughts exactly.

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Another outfielder?

Another guy whose strength is his bat. Nice.

chosk8
06-03-2003, 02:11 PM
Clint King

COMMENT: Strong, durable body. Build similar to Brad Fullmer. Slightly crouched stance. Strength in swing for future average power. Ball jumps off bat, power to opposite field. Powerful strides. Pop in bat.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by daver
My thoughts exactly.

Some numbers: .772 SLG, .449 OBP, 25 BBs, 48 Ks. He's a corner outfielder, I assume?

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Some numbers: .772 SLG, .449 OBP, 25 BBs, 48 Ks. He's a corner outfielder, I assume?

Yup.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
Yup.

This has nothing to do with the draft, but I'll ask anyway. Do you know what Will Carroll will be talking about on Outside the Lines tonight?

SoxxoS
06-03-2003, 02:19 PM
Is this guy a pitcher or an outfielder. MLB.com has him listed as an outfielder, but describes him as a pitcher. Plus, the video corresponding to him shows a pitcher???...

Daver
06-03-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Is this guy a pitcher or an outfielder. MLB.com has him listed as an outfielder, but describes him as a pitcher. Plus, the video corresponding to him shows a pitcher???...

He was drafted as an outfielder,he hasn't pitched in a year.

SoxxoS
06-03-2003, 02:24 PM
We just drafted another outfielder-

With their 3rd round pick, 82nd overall, the Chicago White Sox select Clinton King OF, Southern Mississippi

100/254) .394 BA 23 2B 2 3B 23 HR 77 RBI .772 SLG% 25 BB 48 SO .449 OBP

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:32 PM
There goes Miggy Vega...

Daver
06-03-2003, 02:33 PM
There goes Tony Richie to the North side.

kermittheefrog
06-03-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
This has nothing to do with the draft, but I'll ask anyway. Do you know what Will Carroll will be talking about on Outside the Lines tonight?

Not a clue. Probably something to do with baseball injuries.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:33 PM
Damn Cubs...

Sox will regret not signing Richie.

OfficerKarkovice
06-03-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by daver
He was drafted as an outfielder,he hasn't pitched in a year.

If you're talking about Ryan Sweeney you are dead wrong.

Tragg
06-03-2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by chosk8
Clint King

COMMENT: Strong, durable body. Build similar to Brad Fullmer. Slightly crouched stance. Strength in swing for future average power. Ball jumps off bat, power to opposite field. Powerful strides. Pop in bat.

I'm no scout, but I did see Clint King play in 4 games two weekends ago and he is a hell of a ballplayer. Great pick.

Daver
06-03-2003, 02:41 PM
Sox take Valido,a HS SS from Florida.

Vsahajpal
06-03-2003, 02:42 PM
Sox draft Robert Valido, very good defensive player. From the same school as Luis Montanez.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:42 PM
Robert Volito(sp?).

There's your middle infielder...

Still no catcher.

chosk8
06-03-2003, 02:42 PM
4th round

Robert Valido, ss

School: Coral Park HS. Class: Sr.
Hometown: Coral Park, Fla.
B-T: R-R. Ht.:: 6-1. Wt.: 175. Birthdate:: May 16, 1985.
College Commitment: Florida International U.
Scouting Report: Valido is part of a rich Coral Park shortstop tradition that also includes Ronnie Belliard and 2000's No. 3 overall pick, Luis Montanez. His defensive skills (strong arm, smooth actions, reliable hands) enabled him to hold off Sean Rodriguez, who transferred to Braddock High, and Guillermo Martinez, a South Alabama signee. Valido is the best defensive shortstop in Florida, though not quite in the same class as Robert Andino, a Marlins second-round pick out of a Miami high school last year. Offensively, Valido can't match Rodriguez' ceiling and he didn't hit well this spring. He's also a slightly below average runner, though that didn't limit him in the field. A team that believes Valido will produce at the plate could pop him as early as the second round.

Dadawg_77
06-03-2003, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
This has nothing to do with the draft, but I'll ask anyway. Do you know what Will Carroll will be talking about on Outside the Lines tonight?

I think pitch counts but in his article today he talks about being bumped by ESPN.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 02:46 PM
Is it just me, or does Valido sound a lot like Jason Dellaero?

chosk8
06-03-2003, 02:47 PM
About Valido...

"he didn't hit well this spring. He's also a slightly below average runner"

he should fit right in with this bunch

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Is it just me, or does Valido sound a lot like Jason Dellaero?


Looking at the video on MLB, he has a 3/4 to sidearm. IMO, that's not a great thing for a SS. It causes the ball to sink away or into a first baseman.

Seems to have a nice swing, but is visibly weak. Very skinny. Runs OK.

Ranked #2 defensive SS in this draft and #6 overall for SS's by BA.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Looking at the video on MLB, he has a 3/4 to sidearm. IMO, that's not a great thing for a SS. It causes the ball to sink away or into a first baseman.

Seems to have a nice swing, but is visibly weak. Very skinny. Runs OK.

Ranked #2 defensive SS in this draft and #6 overall for SS's by BA.


Despite the above, the Sox should have taken Landon Powell. He won't be there for their pick in the fifth, IMO.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Despite the above, the Sox should have taken Landon Powell. He won't be there for their pick in the fifth, IMO.

If Cincy doesn't take him, then we have a chance to get him.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
If Cincy doesn't take him, then we have a chance to get him.

Don't worry, even if he does fall, we'll decide now is the perfect time to take a HS rightie! ;-)

Daver
06-03-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Don't worry, even if he does fall, we'll decide now is the perfect time to take a HS rightie! ;-)

Knack Reiner out of Arkansas.

chosk8
06-03-2003, 03:12 PM
5th Round

Matt Nachreiner, rhp

School: Round Rock HS. Class: Sr.
Hometown: Cedar Park, Texas.
B-T: R-R. Ht.:: 6-2. Wt.: 175. Birthdate:: Nov. 17, 1984.
College Commitment: U. of Arizona.
Scouting Report: The No. 2 pitcher behind projected first-round pick John Danks at Round Rock High, Nachreiner easily has first-five-rounds stuff. The life on his 91-94 mph sinker and his slider draw comparisons to Mike MacDougal, and Nachreiner has better command. But he also has chronically bad knees. When he was a freshman, the cartilage in his knees was degenerating so much that doctors told him he wouldn't be able to play baseball much longer. Nachreiner refused to accept that diagnosis and had surgery that has allowed him to continue his career. Multiple clubs aren't willing to take the medical risk with him because they're uncertain how long he'll hold up.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Don't worry, even if he does fall, we'll decide now is the perfect time to take a HS rightie! ;-)

Is there anything to look forward to in this guy?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by daver
Knack Reiner out of Arkansas.

Call me Nostradumbass.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
If Cincy doesn't take him, then we have a chance to get him.

Can't believe Cornell almost fell to us in the 5th round. Neither of the last 2 guys we drafted have anywhere near the potential.

Powell is 1-2 years away from the majors and can be a reliable defensive backup at worst. Good thing KW is off with the team, "where he is needed."

Can't wait to see Alomar still catching for the Sox in 2006.

moochpuppy
06-03-2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by MRKARNO
MLB describes Sweeney as an lhp:

Mark Buehrle's replacement in 2006?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by moochpuppy
Mark Buehrle's replacement in 2006?

As I previously stated, IMO, he'll be a 1B, but an OF'er at worst. Lefthanded and good size/agility for a 1B. Will grow into power and has body to add a considerable amount of muscle to an already good build.

joecrede
06-03-2003, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Can't believe Cornell almost fell to us in the 5th round. Neither of the last 2 guys we drafted have anywhere near the potential.

Powell is 1-2 years away from the majors and can be a reliable defensive backup at worst. Good thing KW is off with the team, "where he is needed."

Can't wait to see Alomar still catching for the Sox in 2006.

If you think of the MLB draft like the NFL one, what I believe the Sox did was essentially "trade up" to get Sweeney. Sweeney is going to cost BIG $$$ to sign so they decided to overdraft guys in the 3rd and 4th rounds in order to pay him. I'd have loved to have Cornell in the 4th round too, but I love the Sweeney pick.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:40 PM
Pepperdine LF'er Chris Kelly.

Powell STILL on the board.

Think OF was a priority?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by joecrede
If you think of the MLB draft like the NFL one, what I believe the Sox did was essentially "trade up" to get Sweeney. Sweeney is going to cost BIG $$$ to sign so they decided to overdraft guys in the 3rd and 4th rounds in order to pay him. I'd have loved to have Cornell in the 4th round too, but I love the Sweeney pick.


You may be giving them too much credit. We'll see if they sign him. Time will tell.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:22 PM
5th - 10th rounds

5. MATTHEW NACHREINER - ROUND ROCK HS - RHP - L/R - 6'2" 185
COMMENT: Medium frame. Throws from stretch. Quick arm with proper action. Heavy fastball with nasty sink life

6. CHRISTOPHER KELLY - PEPPERDINE U - LF - R/R - 6'1" 200

7. JAMES CASEY - AZLE HS - RHP - R/R - 6'4" 215
COMMENT: Tall, strong, athletic body. Strong legs. Similar to Kevin Millwood. Side-saddle, 3/4 pitch delivery. Signed with University of Texas-Arlington. Above average velocity fastball. Loose, quick arm. Works both sides of plate. Very aggressive RHP with two quality pitches and developing off-speed pitch.

8. JOHN RUSS - FRANK PHILLIPS COL - RHP - R/R - 6'2" 180
COMMENT: Medium-large frame. Similar to Ryan Franklin. Quick arm, proper action. Fastball with average velocity with sink when down. Knuckleball with tight rotation, 3/4 bite at times. Starting to throw a change, should improve. Will develop as a Major League pitcher

9. DAVID COOK - MIAMI U - CF - R/R - 5'11" 195

10. FRASER DIZARD - U SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA - LHP - L/L - 6'0" 195
COMMENT: Solid, athletic build. Evenly proportioned. Body similar to Randy Wolf. Fluid, easy arm action and delivery. Occasional life with lefty bore movement. Solid, average fastball, mostly 89-90 mph. Occasional sharp, late, downer curveball. Confidence in abilities. Crafty, can find hitters' weaknesses.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:29 PM
#'s on the 9th round pick from Miami Ohio, David Cook:

.345 avg, 61 games, 252 AB's, 17 2B's, 1 3B, 15 HR, 61 RBI, .599 SLG%, 33 BB's, 5 HBP, 40 SO's, 5 GIDP, .428 OBP%

He also had 5 Errors and 2 Assists in 193 PO's this year.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
10. FRASER DIZARD - U SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA - LHP - L/L - 6'0" 195
COMMENT: Solid, athletic build. Evenly proportioned. Body similar to Randy Wolf. Fluid, easy arm action and delivery. Occasional life with lefty bore movement. Solid, average fastball, mostly 89-90 mph. Occasional sharp, late, downer curveball. Confidence in abilities. Crafty, can find hitters' weaknesses.


BA on MLB radio was saying he is an intriguing pick. Very good young power arm, but had a lot of family issues with an illness to his father during this season. He is only a Junior, so he has some leverage. Sounds like he has a lot of upside, but the performance issues this season were a red flag. If they can sign him, might be a SUPER pick.

Daver
06-03-2003, 04:33 PM
Where did Powell end up at Randar?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:39 PM
Sox 11th round pick:

RICHARD BROOKS - NORTH TONAWANDA HS - RHP - R/R - 6'2" 165

COMMENT: Thin athletic body. Mariano Rivera clone. Excellent athletic agility. Live, quick, free arm action. Has the arm, athletic body and make-up. Tight curve, potential Major League out pitch.


Powell is still there.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by daver
Where did Powell end up at Randar?

Still there halfway through the 11th.

I can't believe the Dodger's picks. Dan Evans is a dope.

Daver
06-03-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Randar68



Powell is still there.

What the hell happened to make him drop like a rock?

Daver
06-03-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Randar68


I can't believe the Dodger's picks. Dan Evans is a dope.

He isn't any worse than Schueler.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by daver
What the hell happened to make him drop like a rock?

Apparently, his weight is that big of an issue. I don't know who his agent is, there may have been a feeling that if he slid out of the top 5 rounds or so, he wouldn't sign for less then higher money??? just a guess. I can't imagine.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:49 PM
Sox 12th round pick:

Powell is still there, but they pick a HS lefty,

DONALD VEAL - BUENA HS - LHP - L/L - 6'3" 200

COMMENT: Arm and delivery work very good. Loose, free and easy arm action with downhill plane. Natural tailing fastball with occasional late riding life. Fair feel for curveball, tight, fair depth, occasional bite. Good projection of body with room for added strength. Projectable stuff with feel for pitching. Needs to focus on throwing changeup.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by daver
He isn't any worse than Schueler.


LA's first 8 picks were HS'ers.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 04:57 PM
13th round pick:

Powell still there...

WESLEY HODGES - THE BAYLOR SCHOOLS (HS) - SS - R/R - 6'2" 180

COMMENT: Big, strong. Gets bat through zone. Attacks his pitch, can smoke it, especially pull. Does not have to get it all to drive it in. Easy throws, good carry. Fairly soft hands. Power potential with all around game.

Vsahajpal
06-03-2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Sox 12th round pick:

Powell is still there, but they pick a HS lefty, missed the name.

Donald Veal, good value pick if they can sign him.

89-92 fastball

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
Donald Veal, good value pick if they can sign him.

89-92 fastball

Hey Vic,do you have any clue why Powell lost his draft value?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 05:06 PM
Sox 14th round pick:

Powell still on the board:

RICARDO NANITA - FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL U - CF - L/L - 6'0" 195
COMMENT: Strong body. Bat speed through zone, ball jumps off bat. Solid power to all fields, especially gaps. Runs better underway. Solid glove, good defensive actions. Arm strength with accuracy. Profiles in LF. Aggressive hitter. Swings well with wood.

Hangar18
06-03-2003, 05:08 PM
You guys, thanks again for the draft coverage and comments...
very very helpful. :gulp: :gulp:

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Sox 14th round pick:

Powell still on the board:

RICARDO NANITA - FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL U - CF - L/L - 6'0" 195
COMMENT: Strong body. Bat speed through zone, ball jumps off bat. Solid power to all fields, especially gaps. Runs better underway. Solid glove, good defensive actions. Arm strength with accuracy. Profiles in LF. Aggressive hitter. Swings well with wood.

Sox have went with quite a few outfielders, but thats no problem in my book. Seems like a good athelete and most are saying its a steal in the 14th. My theory is draft on talent, not needs. You can always trade good talent to fill your needs later on.

Come on Jerry, Powell obviously has signability issues, but lets snag him and see what we can do with him. He'd be a nice pick and the Sox could definately use a catcher.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
Donald Veal, good value pick if they can sign him.

89-92 fastball

Veal and Nachreiner are both University of Arizona commits. Jeff Allison, Adam Miller and Delmon Young were UA recruits as well.

Vsahajpal
06-03-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by daver
Hey Vic,do you have any clue why Powell lost his draft value?


Scouts don't like his body, didn't hit that well until late in the year.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Still there halfway through the 11th.

I can't believe the Dodger's picks. Dan Evans is a dope.

Finally someone else agrees with me on that. Down here in LA i have watched him trade away their entire organization. Then again, they have a better major league club then us :?:

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Veal and Nachreiner are both University of Arizona commits. Jeff Allison, Adam Miller and Delmon Young were UA recruits as well.

That could cause some signability issues.Great.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:13 PM
I'm still excited about the shortstop we got. I think him and Sweeney will be the toughest signs, but I hope they can nab em.

longshot7
06-03-2003, 05:13 PM
Who is this Powell guy?

as for the dodgers, at least we get to hear Tommy Lasorda make their picks - a little bit of sunshine in my day.

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
Scouts don't like his body, didn't hit that well until late in the year.

Grab him ih the next round and send him to Jeeny Craig.

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by longshot7
Who is this Powell guy?



At one time he was a highly ranked catching prospect.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by longshot7
Who is this Powell guy?

as for the dodgers, at least we get to hear Tommy Lasorda make their picks - a little bit of sunshine in my day.

Landon Powell's a catcher out of South Carolina. Good numbers, and it would be great to nab him.

I agree- Lasorda is awesome.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by longshot7
Who is this Powell guy?

as for the dodgers, at least we get to hear Tommy Lasorda make their picks - a little bit of sunshine in my day.

I'm assuming everyone is talking about Landon Powell. He was ranked as one of the better catching prospects and was supposed to go way earlier then this. I think he was projected somewhere in the first four rounds.

Vsahajpal
06-03-2003, 05:16 PM
Greg Moviel, another good value pick. Tough sign, though

Randar68
06-03-2003, 05:18 PM
Powell still there, Sox 15th round pick:

GREGORY MOVIEL - ST IGNATIUS HS - LHP - L/L - 6'6" 220

COMMENT: Similar build to Mark Mulder. Full windup, 3/4 delivery. Sound mechanics. Most fastballs 90 with tail, run, occasional sink when down in zone. Occasionally cuts fastball. 3/4 rotation curveball, sharp break, tight rotation, slurve action. Change shows promise. Control will need time.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
Greg Moviel, another good value pick. Tough sign, though

I don't know what the Sox are doing drafting these guys. They aren't going to sign half of them. Cheap bastards.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 05:19 PM
15 rounds and I'm out guys.

Hope they pick some guys they can sign that aren't total duds.

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:19 PM
The Sox must have a quota for the minimum number of HS pitchers they draft in the first 18 rds.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
15 rounds and I'm out guys.

Hope they pick some guys they can sign that aren't total duds.

Thanks for the updates and everything Randar.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Vsahajpal
Greg Moviel, another good value pick. Tough sign, though

This guy sounds really good. I think the Sox are going to have so spend some money to get some of these guys signed. Still it seems like they are being very agressive going after talent.

I'm not sure, but could them spending money on this years draft have any signs of them cutting payroll for the next few seasons, something I think they should do as they try to rebuild for two years down the road.

Back to the lefty. He should have good velocity and has great size and his pitches have good movement.

MHOUSE
06-03-2003, 05:31 PM
How do you guys get so excited about the draft? I mean we sign a couple of these guys and then their rights and drafting floats around and they go to college or the minors and we'll never see them until at least 5 years or so and that's only a couple of them. Why is there so much hype? What % of picks are signed? What % of the however many players drafted make the majors?

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 05:34 PM
I'm sorry if this was discussed before, but why in the bloody heck did we draft Fraser Dizard? 6.31 ERA, 39 K, 28 BB in 51 innings. Am I missing something?

Another pitcher. Great.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 05:37 PM
The player:

Cory Dickens, Sorry(sp?) Community College. RHP

MisterB
06-03-2003, 05:39 PM
Round #16

Cody Dickens RHP - Surrey CC
R/R 6'2" 200 1983-12-04

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
I'm sorry if this was discussed before, but why in the bloody heck did we draft Fraser Dizard? 6.31 ERA, 39 K, 28 BB in 51 innings. Am I missing something?

Another pitcher. Great.

This guy is a first or second round talent that had injury problems lsat year. He has a good fastball for a lefty and some solid seconadry pitches. I heard good things about him from a buddy of mine that played against him.

Supposedly his dad lied about him being healthy or something. This will be a GOOD pick. He has the stuff/potential. Sox have to make some minor changes to him, ala Dan Wright.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
I'm sorry if this was discussed before, but why in the bloody heck did we draft Fraser Dizard? 6.31 ERA, 39 K, 28 BB in 51 innings. Am I missing something?

Another pitcher. Great.


See the earlier post. Good stuff. A lot of extenuating circumstances and personal issues with him during the past season.

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by MHOUSE
How do you guys get so excited about the draft?

Easy,we're baseball fans.

sox_fan_forever
06-03-2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by daver
Easy,we're baseball fans.

You said it, daver! :smile:

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by MHOUSE
How do you guys get so excited about the draft? I mean we sign a couple of these guys and then their rights and drafting floats around and they go to college or the minors and we'll never see them until at least 5 years or so and that's only a couple of them. Why is there so much hype? What % of picks are signed? What % of the however many players drafted make the majors?

Not sure about the % but I'd say the majority of picks sign. The reason I like the draft is because this is the key to building a winning team if your a Sox fan. Without good drafts the Sox and their small market payroll (Large Market Team) would suck. Not that we don't, but the potential is there and if the Sox can ever put together a few winning/playoff years to get the fans back in the parks, then when you mix a great farm system with a payroll, a lot can happen.

I'm also a huge fan of prospects. Its fun watching guys as they develop into major league players.

MisterB
06-03-2003, 05:45 PM
Round #17

Guillermo Martinez 2b - Miami Coral Park HS
R/R 6'0" 180 1984-10-05

Body type sim to Roberto Alomar. Upright stance, feet shoulder width. Quick bat.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by MisterB
Round #17

Guillermo Martinez 2b - Miami Coral Park HS
R/R 6'0" 180 1984-10-05

Body type sim to Roberto Alomar. Upright stance, feet shoulder width. Quick bat.

I love these two shortstop picks. I'd like to sign the two of them and let them develop with Yan, Gonzalez and Pedro Lopez. We'd have a pretty good crop of middle infield guys.

Mix that with Schnurstein, Valera and that guy we drafted from Baylor (3rd baseman) and Rogowski and Sweeney (I'm like Randar; I think they move him to first) and we have some real good prospects there.

This draft mixed with last years is really replentishing the crop of position prospects we have.

MisterB
06-03-2003, 05:55 PM
Round #18

Cory Haggerty SS - SUNY College @ Cortland
L/R 6'0" 175 1981-08-25

Daver
06-03-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by MisterB
Round #18

Cory Haggerty SS - SUNY College @ Cortland
L/R 6'0" 175 1981-08-25

Thanx for taking over the updates MisterB,I can't get MLB radio to connect.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by MisterB
Round #18

Cory Haggerty SS - SUNY College @ Cortland
L/R 6'0" 175 1981-08-25

.428 OBP, .475 SLG, 19 BB, 21 K for the Quarry Dogs in 2003.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by Chisoxfn
I love these two shortstop picks. I'd like to sign the two of them and let them develop with Yan, Gonzalez and Pedro Lopez. We'd have a pretty good crop of middle infield guys.

Mix that with Schnurstein, Valera and that guy we drafted from Baylor (3rd baseman) and Rogowski and Sweeney (I'm like Randar; I think they move him to first) and we have some real good prospects there.

This draft mixed with last years is really replentishing the crop of position prospects we have.

We have now drafted Miami Coral Park HS's starting middle infield. LOL! I wonder if that's ever happenned. Must have, but funny none the less.

MisterB
06-03-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by daver
Thanx for taking over the updates MisterB,I can't get MLB radio to connect.

Hey, it keeps me off the streets...

Round #19

Michael Moat RHP - San Diego State U
R/R 6'1" 190 1981-10-25

COMMENT: Athletic. Pitchers frame. Rounded shoulders. Similar to Brian Boehringer. Quick arm. Average fastball, mostly 89 mph. Hard, sharp, late breaking slider. Sets up other pitches. Competitor. Can spot pitches, always around plate. Steady improvement.

Daver
06-03-2003, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
We have now drafted Miami Coral Park HS's starting middle infield. LOL! I wonder if that's ever happenned. Must have, but funny none the less.

Maybe it was a package deal to help their signability. :redneck

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
We have now drafted Miami Coral Park HS's starting middle infield. LOL! I wonder if that's ever happenned. Must have, but funny none the less.

I hope their buddies and the chances of the two of them playing together at the majors helps the two of them sign on.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by MisterB
Hey, it keeps me off the streets...

Round #19

Michael Moat RHP - San Diego State U
R/R 6'1" 190 1981-10-25

COMMENT: Athletic. Pitchers frame. Rounded shoulders. Similar to Brian Boehringer. Quick arm. Average fastball, mostly 89 mph. Hard, sharp, late breaking slider. Sets up other pitches. Competitor. Can spot pitches, always around plate. Steady improvement.

Some stats: 108 IP, 4.58 ERA, 72 Ks, 25 BBs for the Aztecs.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Some stats: 108 IP, 4.58 ERA, 72 Ks, 25 BBs for the Aztecs.


Through 19 rounds, Landon Powell still in free fall. What in the world!?!?!? There must be a good story to this if no team is willing to even waste a late teens pick on him.

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Through 19 rounds, Landon Powell still in free fall. What in the world!?!?!? There must be a good story to this if no team is willing to even waste a late teens pick on him.

We may not have drafted any catchers, but we sure are cornering the market on high school shortstops. Geez...

Daver
06-03-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
We may not have drafted any catchers, but we sure are cornering the market on high school shortstops. Geez...

Yeah,they must have lowered the minimum quota on HS pitchers this year and raised it on SS's.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
Through 19 rounds, Landon Powell still in free fall. What in the world!?!?!? There must be a good story to this if no team is willing to even waste a late teens pick on him.

Well if the sox draft him. I wonder how much money he'll be asking for. I'd be on the phone with his agent seeing whats going on and seeing what he'd be willing to take. Work out a deal and then sign him.

That woul be a hell of a way to end the draft. I still think they are gonna have a heck of a time getting this guys signed.

MisterB
06-03-2003, 06:16 PM
The last pick of the day...

Round #20

not on MLB's prospects list

High School SS by the last name of Schmidt (sp?)

MarkEdward
06-03-2003, 06:17 PM
Kyle Bakker just went to the Braves.

Thanks for the scouting reports and everything else, guys.

Let's hope we somehow end up with Powell.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Kyle Bakker just went to the Braves.

Thanks for the scouting reports and everything else, guys.

Let's hope we somehow end up with Powell.

Powell must of had his agent say he wants a lot of money otherwise he's just going on to college. That would be my guess.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by MarkEdward
Kyle Bakker just went to the Braves.

Thanks for the scouting reports and everything else, guys.

Let's hope we somehow end up with Powell.

That was a good value pick by the Braves right there. He's a good pitcher and has decent velocity. Great control, I'd say he could turn into something.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Chisoxfn
Powell must of had his agent say he wants a lot of money otherwise he's just going on to college. That would be my guess.

He's already a college junior. Guess he'll return for his senior year.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:25 PM
Jeremy Schmidt out of Mira Mesa Highschool. He's a shortstop, but from the looks of his size, I'd say he is likely to move to third.

Daver
06-03-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
He's already a college junior. Guess he'll return for his senior year.

That would be my guess,I really doubt he will sign for second day money.The Sox once again fail to fill the biggest hole in their farm system though.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
He's already a college junior. Guess he'll return for his senior year.

Whoops, lol. Then that really wouldn't make sense. I think if you could somehow convince his agent that he'd be on the fast track then a team will sign him. I'm guessing he'll get picked sooner or later, but like I said earlier, I'd be on the horn with his agent trying to work out a deal right now. The thing is he's gonna ask for 4th or 5th round money.

Anyone know who his agent is?

Randar68
06-03-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Chisoxfn
Whoops, lol. Then that really wouldn't make sense. I think if you could somehow convince his agent that he'd be on the fast track then a team will sign him. I'm guessing he'll get picked sooner or later, but like I said earlier, I'd be on the horn with his agent trying to work out a deal right now. The thing is he's gonna ask for 4th or 5th round money.

Anyone know who his agent is?


I just don't understand teams' reasoning. The draft is an investment in your future. The amount of money they are willing to pay stiffs like Alomar, and they won't split that money in half and basically get 2 or 3 free top 5 round picks at need positions is ludicrous.

Chisoxfn
06-03-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Randar68
I just don't understand teams' reasoning. The draft is an investment in your future. The amount of money they are willing to pay stiffs like Alomar, and they won't split that money in half and basically get 2 or 3 free top 5 round picks at need positions is ludicrous.

I'm with you completely on this. If I were a team, I'd set aside something around 10 million for the draft. That may be a high number, but some years you'd go well under it while other years you'd go over it. It would be a good way though to ensure that your doing the best possible in bringing in talent.

Think we have a couple stiffs on this team (Konerko and Valentin) and we pay them something like 12 million. We could easily invest that in something like two years of draft and get a few very good players out of it.

I do think that my estimate of 10 million is probably a bit high. I'm just starting to learn about the whole draft, so someone else may have a better number.

Randar68
06-03-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Chisoxfn
I do think that my estimate of 10 million is probably a bit high. I'm just starting to learn about the whole draft, so someone else may have a better number.

Actually, if you are going to be aggressive, that is a pretty low number. Start around 15.