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Dadawg_77
05-29-2003, 12:39 PM
The Sox are 27th in the Majors for OBP at .318, the Twins at 16th at .334, KC is 18th at .328. At least we are better the Clev and Detroit, the two worst teams in baseball at .310 and .285 respectively. That folks is why the Sox are in third place, the hitters need take more pitches and get more walks (23 in the majors with 163). The Sox got on base at a .356 clip and avg 6.04 runs per game in 2000, .334 and 4.93 in 2001, .338 and 5.28 in 2002. So far in 2003 4.01 runs per game.

mandmandm
05-29-2003, 12:51 PM
Is this due to the lack of Sox players and coaches reviewing tape of pitchers prior to the game? I am not sure how much other teams do this but after watching many Sox games this year, early in the games it appears Sox batters are clueless.

SoxxoS
05-29-2003, 01:27 PM
On the off chance we do get on base, the .210 with RISP doesn't help, either.

Dadawg_77
05-29-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
On the off chance we do get on base, the .210 with RISP doesn't help, either.

You can control OPB more so that Avg, AVG is just a product of OPB. Actually the Sox get on base at .321 with RISP and .352 with RISP with 2 outs. Oh the Twins are worse then us in OBP with RISP with a .318. The difference between us and them is they have gotten RISP more 33 times more the Sox and 52 points in slg.

jeremyb1
05-29-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Dadawg_77
The Sox are 27th in the Majors for OBP at .318, the Twins at 16th at .334, KC is 18th at .328. At least we are better the Clev and Detroit, the two worst teams in baseball at .310 and .285 respectively. That folks is why the Sox are in third place, the hitters need take more pitches and get more walks (23 in the majors with 163). The Sox got on base at a .356 clip and avg 6.04 runs per game in 2000, .334 and 4.93 in 2001, .338 and 5.28 in 2002. So far in 2003 4.01 runs per game.

i couldn't agree with you more. if i had to point to one problem with our team it would definately be our selectivity at the plate. i discussed this in another thread. the fact that our guys are now pressing horribly only exacerbates this problem.

Foulke You
05-29-2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Dadawg_77
The Sox are 27th in the Majors for OBP at .318, the Twins at 16th at .334, KC is 18th at .328. At least we are better the Clev and Detroit, the two worst teams in baseball at .310 and .285 respectively. That folks is why the Sox are in third place, the hitters need take more pitches and get more walks (23 in the majors with 163). The Sox got on base at a .356 clip and avg 6.04 runs per game in 2000, .334 and 4.93 in 2001, .338 and 5.28 in 2002. So far in 2003 4.01 runs per game.

Agreed. It is frustrating to watch Sox hitters approach this year. They take "hitter's pitches" for strikes and then swing at "pitcher's pitches" out or in the zone that they can't hit anyways. That adds up to a lot of strikeouts, pop ups, and ground outs. Really, with a .210 RISP avg and a .318 OBP, it is truly remarkable that the Sox are only a few games under .500 and in 3rd place. A tribute to the pretty good pitching we've gotten so far this year.