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fquaye149
05-24-2003, 11:42 AM
most of his losses have been hard-luck losses. look at the one earlier this season where he took a no hitter through 7 1/3 only to give up a couple runs and then have the bullpen lose it for him with his inherited runners. this is hardly doomsday, at least garland pitched well

lowesox
05-24-2003, 12:06 PM
Here's what's doomsday: The sox have come off winning a series. More importantly, a comeback win from being down 5-1. They should have momentum. They have a tough stretch coming up, and they need to collect a couple easier wins now. Then they lose to a pitcher, who forget the fact that he was 0-9, had a 5+ ERA, by only scoring two runs.

If that type of thing only happened here and there, it wouldn't be doomsday. But everytime they look like they're on the verge of digging out of their trench they dig the hole even deeper.

When we took 2-3 from the twins there was a game where Garland beaned a twin and JM got thrown out. We had won the last two games of that series, it looked like a turning point. The team relaxed because they had some success and rolled over in the next series.

When JM told the players that they had to look at themselves in the mirror, it caused them to take 2-3 against a pretty good Orioles team. It looked like we were going to get going again. What next? A three game sweep by the twins.

And now after taking the final two games against a hot blue jay team we let the worse team in baseball, and arguably their worst pitcher beat us.

That is doomsday. Because now, I can't even get excited about a win, or even two wins because it means that this bunch of lolligagers will have an excuse to roll over in the next series.

Lip Man 1
05-24-2003, 12:08 PM
For all we know Maroth may wind up having better numbers then either Garland or Wright when all is said and done (if you throw out the won / lost records)

Lip

MHOUSE
05-24-2003, 12:38 PM
Yeah looking at the box scores for most of his outings, he keeps giving up only a few runs and then having the bullpen pile on or let his runners score. A lot like Buehrle only a little more exaggerated. If he were on a team with a little better offense and something of a bullpen then he could be 4-4 at the least. He owned us last night though. This wasn't pretty.

jeremyb1
05-24-2003, 02:29 PM
i'm more upset we failed go score in the 8th and 9th against their pen than that we didn't score more against maroth. our hitters looked like they were getting some cookies in the 9th and couldn't do anything with them.

ShoelessFred
05-24-2003, 02:47 PM
you guys are walking the thin line, thinking like cub fans. "well he is 0-9 but is not that bad'!!!!! gimmie a break. 0-9 is 0-9!! NO EXCUSE FOR LOSING TO A SCRUB LIKE THIS GUY. the 3 pitchers we face in this series have a total of 1 win! 2 after our loss. wake up and smell the rotten eggs friends, this team has shown it's true colors. no use in looking for a an excuse to get behind them this year. they've shown you they don't CARE.

fquaye149
05-24-2003, 03:52 PM
if ben sheets pitched for the tigers he would be 0-9. above average pitchers would probably be in maroth's shoes if they played for the tigers.

kermittheefrog
05-24-2003, 03:55 PM
HERES WHY WE SHOULD BE UPSET: We lost to the Tigers AGAIN.

doublem23
05-24-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by kermittheefrog
HERES WHY WE SHOULD BE UPSET: We lost to the Tigers AGAIN.

More than upset, we should be downright infuriated.