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JRIG
04-23-2003, 04:52 PM
ESPN 1000's Bruce Levine reports Josh Paul cleared waivers and has been sent to AAA. Lefty David Sanders has joined the big club.

WhiteSoxWinner
04-23-2003, 04:54 PM
Well, have to admit the move makes sense. We needed more lefties off the bench, now we have one.

czalgosz
04-23-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by WhiteSoxWinner
Well, have to admit the move makes sense. We needed more lefties off the bench, now we have one.

Well, Sanders is a pitcher, but the move is sound.

CHISOXFAN13
04-23-2003, 04:59 PM
This is a great move. Paul needs the at-bats and Sanders is a perfect long innings relief guy. We really didn't have one of those on our current roster.

Hangar18
04-23-2003, 05:03 PM
thats a gutsy move by the sox. Then again, this was a move they needed to make a little earlier. I have a feeling Garland wont be making his start this weekend. and thats not such a bad thing. Put Garland temporarily in the pen, and let this Sanders kid start a couple of games. Theres no scouting report on him yet, and gives Garland time to work on his Mojo

WhiteSoxWinner
04-23-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
Well, Sanders is a pitcher, but the move is sound.

Sorry, I was confused with Anthony Sanders who plays the outfield. He is a righty, but I could not remember that at the time of the post. My bad.

cheeses_h_rice
04-23-2003, 05:05 PM
David Sanders is a name I've never even heard of...who is this guy?

Hangar18
04-23-2003, 05:07 PM
Besides, Ive seen enough of the Jon Garland Comedy Hour to know what the next episodes going to be like. I still think hes going to be OK, but he needs to be removed from the Rotation Immediately before his psyche and confidence are shot. Hes a guy you need to keep an eye on, hopefully this will get him on the right track.........

CHISOXFAN13
04-23-2003, 05:11 PM
Before we take Graland out and put Sanders in, let us realize that he has appeared in six poutings spanning eight innings. He is obviously working out of the pen. I thought he was a starter for Birmingham a while back but who knows?

He has 14 strikeouts in those eight innings.

hose
04-23-2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by cheeses_h_rice
David Sanders is a name I've never even heard of...who is this guy?


He pitched lights out in ther Arizona Fall League.

hold2dibber
04-23-2003, 05:26 PM
I'd be surprised if Sanders takes Garland's next turn in the rotation. As lousy as Garland has been, I think Manuel already said he'll make his next start (but that they'll explore options if his next start is a bad one). I think Sanders is here to give the team a long reliever (which they don't have right now) and to allow Paul to get consistent ABs in Charlotte. I would expect either Sanders or Stewart to be sent down once Wright is ready.

hose
04-23-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Hangar18
thats a gutsy move by the sox. Then again, this was a move they needed to make a little earlier. I have a feeling Garland wont be making his start this weekend. and thats not such a bad thing. Put Garland temporarily in the pen, and let this Sanders kid start a couple of games. Theres no scouting report on him yet, and gives Garland time to work on his Mojo


I agree about it being a gutsy move to take a chance on Paul clearing wavers.

After Huckaby was released by Toronto I'm sure the Sox felt more confident that Josh would clear the waiver wire.

The Sox are so weak in the minors in the catching position that Paul has some value to him. .

I wanted to see the young leftys like Stewart and now Sanders get a shot at the big time.

Hoping to find another diamond in the ruff like Buehrle :cool:

Daver
04-23-2003, 05:30 PM
Sanders isn't a starter,he's a releiver.

czalgosz
04-23-2003, 05:48 PM
I'm not unhappy with Josh Paul getting sent down (he wasn't getting any playing time anyway) but bringing up David Sanders seems odd to me. He's going to get buried in the back of the bullpen and never see the light of day.

The Sox already have one lefty reliever who never pitches (Wunsch), why bring up another?

Something tells me there's a trade in the works...

ChiWhiteSox1337
04-23-2003, 06:17 PM
anyone know how many runs sanders has given up in the minors this year? someone was asking me when i told them about this

Daver
04-23-2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by ChiWhiteSox1337
anyone know how many runs sanders has given up in the minors this year? someone was asking me when i told them about this

In 6 games he has a 2.25 ERA.

Jerry_Manuel
04-23-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by czalgosz
He's going to get buried in the back of the bullpen and never see the light of day.

Something tells me there's a trade in the works...

Manuel loves to use his bullpen. :smile:

I think someone is hurt and they are being quiet about it. Who knows with the Sox though.

maurice
04-23-2003, 06:52 PM
IIRC, if a player gets claimed on waivers, the waiving team has the option of letting him go or putting him back on the 25-man roster. This usually comes up when teams want to make a trade after the trade deadline and request waivers on virtually their entire roster. Can anyone confirm this rule?

If that's the case, this move bolsters the argument that KW started the season with three catchers, because a team would (or did) claim Paul off waivers to serve as its backup catcher out of spring training. By waiting until other teams set their rosters, KW was able to keep Paul as a third catcher in AAA for when Alomar inevitably goes down. Very nice move, Kenny.

OTOH, I agree that there may not be any work for Sanders, since we have at least three starters pitching deep into games. If everyone on the Sox keeps playing at their current level, I expect another player move in the next two weeks, probably involving a call up for Wright and/or Harris.

Daver
04-23-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by maurice
IIRC, if a player gets claimed on waivers, the waiving team has the option of letting him go or putting him back on the 25-man roster. This usually comes up when teams want to make a trade after the trade deadline and request waivers on virtually their entire roster. Can anyone confirm this rule?



Yes you are correct on that.

duke of dorwood
04-23-2003, 07:18 PM
This move is aligned with the upcoming games against Minn. Leftys do well against them as you know

Ol Aches & Pains
04-23-2003, 09:10 PM
Interesting, I'd almost forgotten about Josh Paul until this morning, when the Sun-Times ran a brief item about how he wasn't happy sitting on the bench, but was making the best of it, or some such crap. Then I turn on the game on the radio tonight, and he's gone.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you, Josh Paul is never going to be a starting catcher in the Major Leagues. He's had 4 years to show what he can do, and he hasn't exactly made anybody forget Carlton Fisk, has he?

lowesox
04-23-2003, 11:27 PM
Sanders isn't taking Garland's spot. Manuel is trying to light a fire under Garland's ass. Garland will stay in the rotation at least until Wright returns.

Sending Paul done was smart, and a long reliever is something this team needs. But we also desperately need a fast pinch-runner off the bench.

MHOUSE
04-24-2003, 12:12 AM
I think it's a good move. We get a long reliever and a good look at one of our young arms. He's a reliever so I don't see why he would start. Garland will start vs. the Twinkies, but he's being watched closely. Another 5ER and he's gone when Wrighty is ok. Maybe Sanders is insurance if Garland goes out early in another start? Nice to get Paul safely to AAA. I like him as a Sandy backup option, but not while he takes up a spot on our 25-man roster.

Sanders 1IP, 2BB, K 0.00 ERA IIRC?

fuzzy_patters
04-24-2003, 12:31 AM
Manual said on the AM 1000 pregame show that Sanders was called up so that Wunsch would be allowed to pitch up to 2 innings at a time. It sounds like Wunsch will now be the left-handed middle/bridge man opposite White with Sanders taking Wunsch's spot as lefty specialist.

Possable new bullpen roles:

LR Glover R, Ginter R
MR White R, Wunsch L
LS Sanders L
SU Marte L, Gordon, R
CL Koch R

TheBigHurt
04-24-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by hose
He pitched lights out in ther Arizona Fall League.

:) ..............WHERE'S Wee Wee Willie::

WEE Wee Willie's stats: ( http://sports.espn.go.com/minorlbb/teamstats?league=INTL&team=CHARLOTTE )
W Harris .435 16 62 15 27 46 5 1 4 10 6 10

NOT to mention hes leading the intl. league in Batting Averarge

WHEN is Wee Wee Willie coming up......IF at all??????

jeremyb1
04-24-2003, 02:24 AM
the trib speculated that the move was made because we'll be facing a lot of lefties in the next couple series. i guess that makes sense but i'm not sure i see the logic in using wunsch for longer stints. i think sanders is good and deserves a shot but not unless something gives with one of the other two lefties. i don't know why we woudldn't just call up ginter at least in the long run.

maurice
04-24-2003, 12:03 PM
Manuel was quoted in several articles as saying that he had his eye on Sanders since spring training and wanted him on the team instead of a 3rd catcher, which essentially is useless in the AL. A Sun-Times article (http://www.suntimes.com/output/sox/cst-spt-doug242.html) had the following:

Paul, who was out of minor-league options, made the roster out of spring training partly because the Sox were worried that they wouldn't be able to slip him through waivers. "We've been monitoring the waivers for the last few weeks, and we were optimistic that we could get him through at this time,'' Sox assistant general manager Rick Hahn said. "The decision was more motivated by wanting to get the 12th pitcher up here and the third lefty.''

Lip Man 1
04-24-2003, 12:18 PM
Perhaps it would have been better for the Sox had someone claimed Paul. Now the temptation will remain to bring "Mr. Versatility" back to the big club.

Lip

MHOUSE
04-24-2003, 04:37 PM
It was a smart move with Alomar and Olivio as our other options. I like them both, but if Alomar goes down or Olivo falters then we have a viable BACKUP in Paul. They just kept him up until they felt the coast was clear. Smart move by the Sox.