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T Dog
04-19-2003, 05:30 PM
I hope this doesn't turn into a rant, but I'm angry with a segment of our fans. I saw today's game from fair territory beyond left field. After an Indian hit a home run off Stewart some rows to the left of me, many in the area started chanting "throw it back." After the ball dribbled onto the field amid cheers, someone behind me asked, "Where does he think his is, Wrigley?"

First of all, when I go to a game, in fair or foul territory, I always look around for a kid with a glove to give a ball to if one ever comes my way. On one hand, we've had one or two fans interfere with fair balls down the line, to the possible detriment of the team because they want that ball so badly. On the other hand the mentality seems to be that you have to throw back opposition home runs, as if the drunks who sat in the bleachers in Wrigley before their team was fashionable have set the code of conduct for us all.

If I were sitting in the Wrigley bleachers.... If I were kidnapped, at gunpoint, and forced to sit in Wrigley's rightfield bleachers and a visitor home run was hit to me, I probably would be inspired to throw it back, simply to see if I could render the rightfielder unconconsious. Otherwise, I would give it to a kid after making him swear not to throw it back on the field.

After considering that, I realized what a security risk this throwin'-it-back thing poses. Throwing objects, including baseballs, onto the field should be grounds for removal and incarceration -- even if the Cubification of America has left this practice as its heritage.

Paying a baseball team $1,500 for a ticket to one of its game is wrong. Throwing home run balls back on the field is wrong. Where is the commissioner when you need him?

gosox3072
04-19-2003, 05:37 PM
I tottally agree, i was at todays game and couldnt believe my eyes. What the heck are the sox fans thinking????? Throwing the ball back is a flubs tradition lets not make it one of ours!!!

PaleHoseGeorge
04-19-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by gosox3072
I tottally agree, i was at todays game and couldnt believe my eyes. What the heck are the sox fans thinking????? Throwing the ball back is a flubs tradition lets not make it one of ours!!!

You know what the funniest part is? Those idiot Flubs fans are throwing back valuable home run balls, but the REAL bleacher bums know to throw back their own worthless baseballs they thought ahead to bring to the game. That's how the tradition got started -- a total charade meant to fool every simpleton in America -- including half the state of Iowa. :smile:

*****! This is Chicago! If we can fix a courtroom, pocketing a home run ball is easy. Sheesh...

What idiots these people are!

calebhatesyou
04-19-2003, 06:35 PM
good thing that didn't turn into a rant, tdog :D:

i always thought that any ball cought at any game, either by way of HR or foul, hit by any player was worth something, for the soul if not worth money. it's proof that you won the slighly-more-probable-lottery that is going to a live game. i have a tough time giving kids a ball (PHG--this is probably 'cause i'm in denial about not being eight anymore), unless they haven't been shouting at the closest player, "hey SoAndSo, how 'bout a ball?!?!?!.......... you suck, man!!!" every time they touch the ball. and c'mon, nobody really wants to throw their hard earned hr/foul ball back. that's just buckling to peer pressure(fake ball or not) as far as i'm concerned. and that fan interference pisses me off so bad it makes me want to agree those posts that advocated electric fences, barbed wire, and high ass rails.

my point: keep your balls. they're worth more to you than anyone else. :D: and keep your hands to yourself.

siugrad25
04-19-2003, 07:16 PM
I was at Tuesday's game and in left field when Sweeney hit the two-run HR off Koch in the ninth, and I was shocked when I saw people chanting for the person who caught the ball to throw it back. I was fuming. First off, we just gave up the lead in the ninth inning on the way to the 8-5 loss, but my lord, there was a large section of people cheering. GO BACK TO WRIGLEY, I for one don't need fans cheering when the Sox give up a two-run blast in the ninth, especially those in OUR home.

Whitesox029
04-19-2003, 07:48 PM
It's funny how everyone on this thread so far agrees that this is not a good thing to be doing at a White Sox game. I think it shows that the people who would chant "Throw it back" or anyone who would actually do it is not enough of a real Sox fan to be a member of WSI.

PS-It's rumored that the man who ran onto the field and attacked the umpire began his day drinking at the Beer-friendly confines. :gulp:

T Dog
04-19-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge
You know what the funniest part is? Those idiot Flubs fans are throwing back valuable home run balls, but the REAL bleacher bums know to throw back their own worthless baseballs they thought ahead to bring to the game.

All the more reason to outlaw the practice. If they were throwing back the same ball without the excuse of a home run, they would be considered unruly. Some fans are clearly throwing back the home run balls, but some of those balls coming back on the field are obviously making their major league debut.

You might scoff at the notion that somebody could get hurt. Truth to tell, perhaps some teal would be in order. But there are days, I'm sure, when some fans out there would want to take a shot at Carlos Lee.

Boozer
04-19-2003, 08:14 PM
I agree that this is poor practice. I never thought it was cool at Wrigley & especially not in SoxPark! Another thing that pissed me off at the Tuesday Night game was some people were trying to start the chant, "Right Field Sucks", like they do at Wrigley.

Stay at your own ballpark & if you must come to ours, don't bring this BS with ya! :angry:

calebhatesyou
04-19-2003, 08:35 PM
You might scoff at the notion that somebody could get hurt. Truth to tell, perhaps some teal would be in order. But there are days, I'm sure, when some fans out there would want to take a shot at Carlos Lee.

not this week

Tavarin
04-19-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Whitesox029
It's rumored that the man who ran onto the field and attacked the umpire began his day drinking at the Beer-friendly confines. :gulp:

Not just rumored, its true. His fiance came on the score and said that they were Cubs fans who were catching the night cap of the "Subway doubleheader" and that her fiance had a lot to drink at both ballparks

Whitesox029
04-19-2003, 08:48 PM
I guess I should be to the bottom of it already--I know the guy's father believe it or not. He happens to be a big sox fan, but I guess that doesn't stop some kind of disgusting conversion. I haven't said anything to the father out of tact. It's probably a very touchy issue.

calebhatesyou
04-19-2003, 08:54 PM
dag Whitesox029. you have a real in there. i imagine that's a family divided not to mention ashamed.

Whitesox029
04-19-2003, 08:59 PM
Yeah caleb I'm sure they are divided. The attacker was from his father's first marriage and I don't think the marriage lasted very long. The father has married twice since then I think and cleaned himself up. I never really heard very much about this son. If he hadn't been disowned before I'm sure he has been now.

nut_stock
04-19-2003, 09:33 PM
What bugs me is that I've never caught a foul ball, Hr ...what ever at MLB park, and even now, it would still make my day...

That's why I hate it when people throw the ball back.

Now as far as the RF Sucks! chant, that wasn't invented at Wrigley, I've seen it sone at other parks, especially Busch Stadium, where they still chant it on the Metro Link platforms. (instead its westbound sucks...eastbound sucks...etc)

calebhatesyou
04-19-2003, 09:39 PM
that's what i say, nutty. balls nabbed at the park should be more sacred than a stupid jesture.

WinningUgly!
04-19-2003, 09:49 PM
The only way I'd ever throw back a HR ball would be if it was Sox vs. Cubs at Wrigley & one of the Cubs hit one to me. I'd do it just to mock their stupid-assed tradition.

maurice
04-21-2003, 11:27 AM
The Toons hit a homer to right-center in the 9th inning on Saturday. Again lots of idiots telling him to throw it back. He smartly refused, and some drunk sissy threw a beer at him from about 20 feet away. As security was tossing him and his girlfried, we chanted "Na Na, Hey Hey." It's a shame that the game probably was over before he made it down to the parking lot.

Hangar18
04-21-2003, 11:32 AM
I didnt care one way or the other on the "throw it back" for many years, but seeing how the CUbs have copied the SOX in many many things (7th inning stretch, disco nites, etc etc) and seeing how it made me mad seeing that, I decided that throwing it back is THEIR TRADITION, not ours. We dont have a right to copy it.

Hangar18
04-21-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!
The only way I'd ever throw back a HR ball would be if it was Sox vs. Cubs at Wrigley & one of the Cubs hit one to me. I'd do it just to mock their stupid-assed tradition.

YES!!! I would do the exact same. Although somehow I hope to get a ticket in the Bleachers at club wrigley when the Sox Play there, and Catch another Grand Slam by El Caballo, and I DONT THROW IT BACK !!!!!! so if anyone here gets any Extra Tix to the Urinal Series, please make yourselves known. Im the guy you want with you heh heh.

Foulke You
04-21-2003, 12:16 PM
I don't believe that it is Sox fans that are encouraging the "throw it back" mentality. A small segment are probably mislead Sox faithful, but I believe a large part of it are Cub fans who are going to our park. Remember that Cub fans tend to not have any problems going to the Sox games and "cheering" for our team while many Sox fans wouldn't be caught dead at a Cub game. These are the same Cub fans that quickly jump on the bandwagon when we are doing good like in '93 and '00. These same Cub fans are infecting our bleachers with the "throw it back" virus which is far more contagious than SARS. Casual fans who don't know any better that catch the HR ball and quickly succumb to this Cub virus.

The real Sox fans hate the celebration of losing that happens on the North Side when the visiting team hits a HR. On Opening Day this year, someone threw back the lone Tigers homer and they were shocked by the many boos coming at them and "Go back to the North Side!" chants they received shortly after they threw it back. I was sitting in RF and was proud that the Sox fans in our section let those fools know how we felt.

PaleHoseGeorge
04-21-2003, 01:22 PM
As I once noted back in 1997, the only way I would ever throw back a home run ball is if it was aimed at Jaime Navarro's head! :smile:

If you’re really lucky, express true love for your “Lovable Losers” by catching the home run ball hit by the Rockies’ Larry Walker --- by throwing it back. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Not Sox fans. We care deeply about winning. If a Sox fan ever threw back a home run ball, it would be aimed at Jaime Navarro’s head. We grouse about every defeat and spot dark linings in every Sox victory (“Four wins in a row against KC? Big deal. We should be beating these guys”), and fret over the impending tragedy we are sure will befall us (“How many minor-leaguers do you think Schueler can get for Frank Thomas?”).



WSI MANIFESTO (http://whitesoxinteractive.com/Columnists/Bova/Welcome.htm)

T Dog
04-21-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Foulke You
I don't believe that it is Sox fans that are encouraging the "throw it back" mentality. A small segment are probably mislead Sox faithful, but I believe a large part of it are Cub fans who are going to our park. ...

I used to agree with you. But Sunday, I was sitting in left, precisely two rows back from where a kid with a glove made a nice catch on Carlos Lee's ninth inning home run. Before the game, when I was settling into my seat, at my left there was a kid with a glove sitting with his mother and father. The woman had a glove, too. All were wearing Sox caps. I asked the kid if he was going to catch a home run and if he was going to throw it back. He said an Indian home run goes back on the field. His father made a point of reinforcing the rule for him. That was almost as depressing as the game that followed.

I know that being stupid is part of being a Cubs fans. I just wish being stupid weren't so fashionable.

trimbo
04-21-2003, 05:35 PM
Hey, last night at the A's game in RF bleachers, Carl Everett hit a HR about 5 seats to my right . The whole section started chanting "Throw it back!" to the poor guy who caught it. I don't know how or why it started, maybe it was because it was Everett and this was the game after the celphone incident. I don't think anyone seriously wanted him to throw it back, but it was amusing.

If you throw back the ball in Oakland, SF or LA, it's been an automatic ejection for a while. I did see someone throw back a Red Sox HR (stupid interleague play), from the RF bleachers in Dodger stadium and get escorted out shortly thereafter. That was last season, well before the Gamboa incident.

ps - best (though obvious) heckle for Carl last night, "Hey Carl, can you hear me now?"

dllrbll7
04-21-2003, 08:08 PM
I was going to start this same thread today after i went to the game(Monday). After every HR they were chanting to throw it back and even on some foul balls. It was pathetic send all these ass clowns back to the north side. We need to create a rules of comiskey or something and get it posted somewhere

mike squires
04-21-2003, 09:42 PM
T DOG~I totally agree with your post...except for one part...giving it to the kid. You are a better man than me!!!First off, I didn't get my first ball until 2000...Since then I've collected many batting practice balls. I will let the kids get their first from hard work and perserverence. They will remember it more fondly, and two...I am a kid ar heart. I'm 29 and one of the best parts of going to a game is taking my mitt down to the right field corner and snag a few and pester a player or two for one. This past one I got i took over to Nancy for her to autograph. It looks nice on my shelves.

T Dog
04-21-2003, 10:54 PM
QUOTE]Originally posted by mike squires
T DOG~I totally agree with your post...except for one part...giving it to the kid. You are a better man than me!!!First off, I didn't get my first ball until 2000...Since then I've collected many batting practice balls. I will let the kids get their first from hard work and perserverence. They will remember it more fondly... [/QUOTE]

I don't know that I'm a better man than you. It's just that I already have a bunch of major league (some old enough to be American League or National League) baseballs around my home. (I think I'm up to 19.) All are either autographed by ballplayers I've met or have strong sentimental value, except for two stuffed in a drawer that I expect to get autographed, perhaps as gifts for friends. When I go to games, there are always some kids out there who are what I was 30 years ago, sure they're going to catch foul balls, but too polite and too small to have any real of a chance. A ball at the ballpark would go to better use if it helped one such kid become a lifelong baseball fan.

Oh, and I'm impressed that California ballparks eject the people who throw the balls back.]

MHOUSE
04-21-2003, 11:11 PM
I would love to catch a Shammee homer at Wrigley wearing a sox shirt and cap and then blatantly throw it back from the bleachers. That would be great I think. Or maybe wait until the next inning and bean him with it when he trots out to play RF! I agree with the kid thing. I'm only 17, but I would give a foul ball to a kid or an opposition HR to a kid. I need to catch one for me first!