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kruzer31
01-22-2003, 10:49 PM
Being that the 20th anniversery of the 1983 Sox is upon us, and the jerseys are very popular now, I suggest that when the White Sox play the Cubs this year, we wear those 1983 jerseys that Fisk and the boys wore in 83. The Cubs could wear there Royal Blue pullovers from there 1984 Division winning team. We can even make this day against the cubs 80s day at the park. Would be fun.

A.T. Money
01-22-2003, 11:29 PM
No thanks. I can't stand those fugly uniforms. The uniforms they have right now at the best uniforms this franchise has ever had IMO.

VeeckAsInWreck
01-22-2003, 11:40 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing those uniforms used on Sundays. Kinda like the way they used the 1917 uniforms in 2001. Last year they should have used the red pinstripes to commemorate the 1972 squad. But hey what do I know, I am only a fan. :(:


I hope you read this Mr. Gallas!

A.T. Money
01-22-2003, 11:58 PM
Personally, I think the whole Sunday uniform thing is like a black cat walking in front of you.

They need to just play the game with their regular uniforms.

Viva Magglio
01-23-2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by SoxDemon
No thanks. I can't stand those fugly uniforms. The uniforms they have right now at the best uniforms this franchise has ever had IMO.

No, the uniforms they had in the early '70s (red pin stripes) were the best they have ever had.

hold2dibber
01-23-2003, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by kruzer31
Being that the 20th anniversery of the 1983 Sox is upon us, and the jerseys are very popular now, I suggest that when the White Sox play the Cubs this year, we wear those 1983 jerseys that Fisk and the boys wore in 83. The Cubs could wear there Royal Blue pullovers from there 1984 Division winning team. We can even make this day against the cubs 80s day at the park. Would be fun.

I love this idea. Those uniforms were, SoxDemon points out, truly hideous, but I love them anyway. I'd love to see the Sox use them for one game this year to commemorate that great '83 team.

gogosoxgogo
01-23-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by kruzer31
Being that the 20th anniversery of the 1983 Sox is upon us, and the jerseys are very popular now, I suggest that when the White Sox play the Cubs this year, we wear those 1983 jerseys that Fisk and the boys wore in 83. The Cubs could wear there Royal Blue pullovers from there 1984 Division winning team. We can even make this day against the cubs 80s day at the park. Would be fun.

I'm going to have to agree that I also hate those hideous uniforms. I'd be fine with only wearing them on Sundays or only on a certain day or something, but not all the time. I really liked when the Sox wore the 1917 uniforms on Sundays, I think they should do something like it again.

Hangar18
01-23-2003, 09:24 AM
Heres another REason why I should be working for you guys
(Sox Mgmt)
Current Uniforms are excellent. love them.
especially the black ones, theyre the best black ones out
there (of all the teams using "black" now) worst black ones
have to be the Mets, Royals, Giants, Drays, with the Mets and
Royals the absolute worst)
The home SOx uniform is alright.....its not bad, considering weve
had some really bad uniforms before (the late 80's script "WhiteSox" was the worst uniform ever, i bought No sox
related merchandise during that time)
anyway, the Home sox one now is OK,,but its a bit boring.
the Logo is Excellent. we should try to incorporate the 1959
uniform, which I think was the best uniform ever (ok, the 70's red ones too, its a tie).
WHY DONT THE SOX Put some Red...ONLY A LITTLE on the home uniform?? keep the gray trim on the black numbers.
Our Uniform will resemble slightly, the Astros home uniform.
Though they have no business wearing a nice uniform like that,
The sox have way more history than that team, but thats another story. Ive already Made a Prototype of this Jersey,,,,have it at home. I'll start wearing it to the games, and everyone is going to want one....it looks great. Anyone seen the Buffalo Sabres Hockey jerseys? our color scheme would resemble theirs slightly.
What do you guys think?

Bobby Thigpen
01-23-2003, 09:35 AM
I really don't think we should take any fashion cues from the Astros. Those uniforms they have now are hideous. The early 80s rainbow uniforms were better than the current ones. There is absolutely NO reason to mess with the current Sox uniforms. Leave them alone forever for all I care. If you look at the most recognizable uniforms in sports most of them are popular because the don't change them every 15 years. (Penn State, Yankees, Bears, Celtics, etc.) Leave the unis alone other than for special occasions.

Philzer
01-23-2003, 09:57 AM
I remember thinking those Sox "license plate" uniforms of the early 80s looked great when they came out...but that was in comparison to the hideous black and white ones from the 70s. If you look at them today (featuring numbers on the pant legs) they look as dated as Oscar Gamble's afro.

LuvSox
01-23-2003, 10:08 AM
Does anyone know what the new batting practice jerseys are going to look like?

Hangar18
01-23-2003, 10:14 AM
Makes people think the sox are Getting new uniforms.
There will be No NEW batting practice uniforms.
will look the same as always.

34 Inch Stick
01-23-2003, 10:19 AM
If the Sox wore every uniform in the history of the organization for one game each, would there be enough games in the year.

Let's go with a Time Machine Day promotion. They could do a uniform change every inning, starting with the early 1900's. You could turn the scoreboard off until the 7th inning for the 70's. Minnie Minoso could play the entire game.

hold2dibber
01-23-2003, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by Bobby Thigpen
I really don't think we should take any fashion cues from the Astros. Those uniforms they have now are hideous. The early 80s rainbow uniforms were better than the current ones.

The Astros "bruised fruit" uniforms (as my Dad used to call them)! I can't believe you think they're better than the ones the Astros wear today. The all time ugliest uniforms ever are a tie between those Astros bruised fruit outfits and the Sox' late '70s softball uniforms (particularly when paired with short pants).


Originally posted by Bobby Thigpen
There is absolutely NO reason to mess with the current Sox uniforms. Leave them alone forever for all I care. If you look at the most recognizable uniforms in sports most of them are popular because the don't change them every 15 years. (Penn State, Yankees, Bears, Celtics, etc.) Leave the unis alone other than for special occasions.

Completely, totally, absolutely agree. I hope the Sox keep their current uniforms as is, no changes at all, forever.

Bobby Thigpen
01-23-2003, 10:59 AM
My problem with the current Astro's uniforms is that they were fine before the new ones. I liked the navy and gold look. These new ones are really bad. Black, reddish orange (really what color is that?), and gold is just a terrible combination. At least the bruised fruit was really original, not just a ripoff.

LuvSox
01-23-2003, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Hangar18
Makes people think the sox are Getting new uniforms.
There will be No NEW batting practice uniforms.
will look the same as always. Check out the official press release at MLB.com

jortafan
01-23-2003, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Philzer
I remember thinking those Sox "license plate" uniforms of the early 80s looked great when they came out...but that was in comparison to the hideous black and white ones from the 70s. If you look at them today (featuring numbers on the pant legs) they look as dated as Oscar Gamble's afro.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. The '70s jerseys that Mary Frances Veeck designed never bothered me. I always liked the lettering used to spell out Chicago on the jerseys, along with the colors, that was reminiscent of the uniforms the "Hitless Wonders" wore when they whomped the Cubs in that most glorious World Series of them all.

Bobby Thigpen
01-23-2003, 11:13 AM
This whole thread begs for the question to be asked. What is the best worst looking uniforms in major league history?

Best- all of the Sox current uniforms, the Yankees' uniforms (even though they suck, the do look nice), Boston's road unis, New York Giants, and the Braves'

Worst- any of the baby blue mid 80s unis, the Padres' camo, the Padres' brown and yellow, the Sox pajamas, Astros' bruised fruit/rainbow, the Marlins', and the Devil Rays'

LuvSox
01-23-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Bobby Thigpen
This whole thread begs for the question to be asked. What is the best worst looking uniforms in major league history?

Best- all of the Sox current uniforms, the Yankees' uniforms (even though they suck, the do look nice), Boston's road unis, New York Giants, and the Braves'

Worst- any of the baby blue mid 80s unis, the Padres' camo, the Padres' brown and yellow, the Sox pajamas, Astros' bruised fruit/rainbow, the Marlins', and the Devil Rays' Don't forget the Cubs jammies with the teddy bear on them.

Brian26
01-23-2003, 12:51 PM
The current Sox uniforms are the BEST in the history of the organization. The road greys are perfect. The home pinstripes with black and silver are perfect. Don't change a thing!

I never get the fascination with the early 70's red pinstripe uniforms. I think those would be great for the Boston Red Sox, but the White Sox should never, ever have red as the main focal point of the uniform.

The Sox uniforms now are finally classy and should stay around for a LONG time (like the Yankees and Dodgers). Don't fix it if it's not broken, please.

Nellie_Fox
01-23-2003, 01:41 PM
The only change I would make to the current uniform is that maybe the White Sox should have, oh, I don't know, white socks? Just a thought.

If I never see the 83 uniform in use again, I'll shed no tears. By far the ugliest Sox uniform ever. The Veeck "winning ugly" pajama uniforms were just dumb, the script White Sox uniforms were just boring. The 83 uniform was another example of the horrible trend toward garish polyester softball looking uniforms; pullover v-neck jerseys and elastic waist pants in horrible colors. And the home cap looked like a propeller beanie. The road cap was tolerable.

doublem23
01-23-2003, 02:38 PM
The only change I'd make would be to have a white button on the top of the cap instead of a black one. Not that it's that big of a difference, but I think it'd look good.

The very best Sox uniforms are the sleeveless ones they would wear a lot during 2000. ****ing A, man.

Hangar18
01-23-2003, 02:43 PM
HEY DOUBLEM...Please Change this thread to
NEW Batting Practice Tops

voodoochile
01-23-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Hangar18
HEY DOUBLEM...Please Change this thread to
NEW Batting Practice Tops

Dub's not a moderator, just a knowlegeable poster who likes to chat on a variety of subjects and writes some pieces for the site.

Personally, I think this title is fine...

Hangar18
01-23-2003, 02:55 PM
Oh...so he was just throwing his weight around then huh?
heh heh. but seriously Voodoo....the beginning of this
conversation is that someone thought there were new
uniforms for 2003 coming....its not.
ITS NEW BATTING PRACTICE TOPS.........its confusing to look at

Iwritecode
01-23-2003, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
Personally, I think this title is fine...

Read: I just don't feel like doing the extra work to change the title. Deal with it.

JK

:D:

voodoochile
01-23-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Iwritecode
Read: I just don't feel like doing the extra work to change the title. Deal with it.

JK

:D:

banned...

JK

:D:

Actually, I just didn't feel it was that bad of a title, but since people seem to be up in arms about it, I'll do it...

Changed my mind again. Like the first title better. It follows the spirit of the original post.

Hangar18
01-23-2003, 03:54 PM
Jerk. (just kidding heh heh)

Procol Harum
01-23-2003, 04:08 PM
The '80s softball uniforms were absolutely, unquestionably, irredeemably, ugly beyond belief. The home caps they wore then only made it worse. Good riddance, for ever and anon!!!

The Reinsdorf-inspired "Dodger Wannabe" script uniforms of the mid/late '80s were just boring.

As for the Mary Frances Veeck unis, I too dug those somewhat because they were a real throwback to the early 1900s. However, I must confess, I was a lot more fond of the "road" navy blue tops and the all-navy blue look they sported in '77 and maybe '78. I wasn't too fond of the "all-white" version which they began to wear increasingly in '80 and '81.

As for all-time fave--although I love the current look and also liked the red pinstripes of the early/mid '70s--I'd also like to see a little bit of red added to hearken back to the "glory day" unis of the late '50s/early '60s.

Hangar18
01-23-2003, 04:28 PM
Thats exactly what I was thinking Procol.
Just a hint of red...nothing outlandish.
make the home uniform 3color.

Fisk72
01-23-2003, 04:30 PM
I know there are a bunch of you guys who love the red pin stripes (personally, I'm on the fence), but I guess I always thought growing up that if any Sox team should wear them, it should be the Red Sox. As for the current uni's, I definitely agree that they should add a little red ala the Go Go era.

P.S. Does anyone know what patch they wore on the left shoulder? I saw a pic of good ol' Nellie Fox and it looks like some sort of shield with two bats in an "X." Anyone know what it is or how I could get one? Thanks!

Brian26
01-23-2003, 04:46 PM
As I've already said, the red pinstripes are ok for the Boston REDsox, but not the White Sox. The red is so much a focal point of that old uniform that it's hard to not associate it with "Red Sox". I love the current uniforms as they are. Adding a "touch" of red wouldn't work. The silver and black are perfect. It harkens back memories of the 50's era Go-Go teams, but also builds upon a new tradition. The road greys are perfect, the black diamond with the white sock is sleak and classy. Don't change a thing with the uniform! Let's keep this one for a LONG time!

PaleHoseGeorge
01-23-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Brian26
As I've already said, the red pinstripes are ok for the Boston REDsox, but not the White Sox. The red is so much a focal point of that old uniform that it's hard to not associate it with "Red Sox". I love the current uniforms as they are. Adding a "touch" of red wouldn't work. The silver and black are perfect. It harkens back memories of the 50's era Go-Go teams, but also builds upon a new tradition. The road greys are perfect, the black diamond with the white sock is sleak and classy. Don't change a thing with the uniform! Let's keep this one for a LONG time!

I agree completely. The only allowance I might make is to agree with a point Nellie made: the Sox ought to be wearing WHITE socks.

I have a sentimental attachment to the red pinstripes from the 70's. They were very distinctive and very cool for the time, especially when teamed up with the red Adidas spikes. These were cutting edge duds back in 1971.

However, I have to agree with Mrs. PHG on this one-- red pinstripes are TACKY. Only dark and cool colors should be used for pinstripes. As for all the uniforms from 1976 through 1990, let sleeping dogs lie.

:gulp:

Daver
01-23-2003, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge


However, I have to agree with Mrs. PHG on this one-- red pinstripes are TACKY. Only dark and cool colors should be used for pinstripes.

The team I played for in HS had Gold pinstripes,and they were cool.We wore white shoes too,I disagree with Mrs PHG.

:redneck

RedPinStripes
01-23-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by ˇViva Mágglio!
No, the uniforms they had in the early '70s (red pin stripes) were the best they have ever had.

Got that right! :)

TornLabrum
01-23-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge
I agree completely. The only allowance I might make is to agree with a point Nellie made: the Sox ought to be wearing WHITE socks.

I agree, and the Sox have only worn white socks (or stirrups) during three different periods since 1955. The first was with their 1959 World Series home uniforms, then the 1968-71 period with the blue socks under the white stirrups. The last was with the Mary Frances Veeck uniforms from 1976-81.

gogosoxgogo
01-23-2003, 11:14 PM
The current Sox uniforms are by the best they've ever had. I would disagree with throwing any type of Red in there. Keep them how they are. And I'll also disagree with white socks. The black look cool. Could you imagine someone who rolls them up outside of their pants like Damaso Marte doing that with white socks? It wouldn't look good.

soxnut
01-24-2003, 02:14 PM
Throughout most of the 90's the Sox did wear WHITE sox, with black stirrups. Guillen and Ventura wor their sox outside the pants every now and then. And it looked great!! I wish they'd go back to that! :smile: :smile:

SouthSideHitman
01-25-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by gogosoxgogo
The current Sox uniforms are by the best they've ever had. I would disagree with throwing any type of Red in there. Keep them how they are. And I'll also disagree with white socks. The black look cool. Could you imagine someone who rolls them up outside of their pants like Damaso Marte doing that with white socks? It wouldn't look good.

Amen, the all color socks rolled up look great as do the current unis. I think they shouldn't add red though, because what makes the current ones work are the simple black and white, and black and grey. I do however love promos like the 1917 unis on Sunday and I think it would be cool to have all throwback uniforms for the Sox-Cubs series. How about uniforms of the eighties at wrigley and the 1906 ones at Comiskey?

soxnut
01-26-2003, 12:03 PM
I don't get it. Whether you like th the look of BLACK sox or not...................it is a FARCE to wear one color BLACK sox.......the blcak stirrups with WHITE sox is the way it should be.........if not ,why bother calling the the WHITE SOX....it's idiocy!!!!!!!!!! :?: :(: :?: :?: :(:

Brian26
01-26-2003, 07:30 PM
the black soccer-style socks look too cool though!

PaleHoseGeorge
01-26-2003, 10:22 PM
WHITE Socks for the WHITE Sox!

Nixey 02
01-28-2003, 01:04 PM
and while we are changing the color of the socks, could we take the names off the back of the uniform?

Names do not belong on the back of pinstriped uniforms...unless you're the Cubs, whose fans need the assistance in identifying their "heroes."

Iwritecode
01-28-2003, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Nixey 02
and while we are changing the color of the socks, could we take the names off the back of the uniform?

Names do not belong on the back of pinstriped uniforms...unless you're the Cubs, whose fans need the assistance in identifying their "heroes."

Honestly, with the way they revamp their roster every year I can't really blame them. Compare their roster from 3 years ago to today's and you won't find very many players on both. Sosa and Wood are 2 that I can think of off the top of my head.

ChiWhiteSox1337
01-28-2003, 10:30 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_news.jsp?ymd=20030128&content_id=194327&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp

here are the mets' new batting pratice jerseys, i think they're ok, not the best color for a baseball jersey

vegyrex
01-29-2003, 11:25 AM
I like what the Sox have now. No more changes. I grew up seeing the Sox in those red uniforms and I DON"T WANT TO GO BACK THERE!!!
The best Sox uniform ever was the '59 one. Very very classy. But what they have now is a good one to.

Nixey 02
01-29-2003, 11:37 AM
yeah, those mets bp uniforms are sweet...they gonna park cars at Shea in those togs?? yeesh.

:smile:

Foulke You
01-29-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by SouthSideHitman
Amen, the all color socks rolled up look great as do the current unis. I think they shouldn't add red though, because what makes the current ones work are the simple black and white, and black and grey. I do however love promos like the 1917 unis on Sunday and I think it would be cool to have all throwback uniforms for the Sox-Cubs series. How about uniforms of the eighties at wrigley and the 1906 ones at Comiskey?

Actually, the very first interleague game (that counted) between the White Sox and Cubs at Comiskey in 1997 had both teams in early 1900s throwback uniforms. The Cubs had all dark blue pants and tops while the Sox had white with pinstripes and the old 1917ish Sox logo on the cap. Not sure if they were the 1906 ones though.

SouthSideHitman
01-29-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Foulke You
Actually, the very first interleague game (that counted) between the White Sox and Cubs at Comiskey in 1997 had both teams in early 1900s throwback uniforms. The Cubs had all dark blue pants and tops while the Sox had white with pinstripes and the old 1917ish Sox logo on the cap. Not sure if they were the 1906 ones though.

I remember, but those weren't the 1906 ones. I was supposed to be at that game, but my friend who was picking me up had his car clock set 15 minutes too fast and left without me!!! It still bugs me that I didn't get to see the flubs first official loss in Comiskey.

gogosoxgogo
01-29-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Nixey 02
and while we are changing the color of the socks, could we take the names off the back of the uniform?

Names do not belong on the back of pinstriped uniforms...unless you're the Cubs, whose fans need the assistance in identifying their "heroes."

Yeah, I've always agreed with you here. Baseball is a team game, let's make it more represented that way. Maybe it will teach Buehrle a lesson or two as well...

WhiteSox = Life
01-29-2003, 08:43 PM
I think that putting names on uniforms is a double-edged sword.

For some players, if they have their name on the jersey, it represents that they're on an MLB team and they're proud they've made it.

On the other hand, if a player has his name on a jersey and he does poorly, people will are more likely to get his name and start booing him more quickly.

In a good way, having a name on the back of a jersey is great for a fan because they'd want people to know: "Hey, I'm wearing a Chicago White Sox Ordóńez 30 jersey!" It's a sense of pride for the fan to show his team colors.

But, in a bad way, if you bought a Durham 5 jersey, heh, you're screwed, now, unless you loved Durham so much you want to continue wearing his White Sox jersey. With very few players staying on any team for more than 5 years, merchandise you bought three years ago that has names of players is obsolete. That brings up the point that if you bought an MLB team jersey with just a number, it could, theoretically, be used over and over again.

In conclusion, I think for the ballclubs that have names on the backs of jerseys, they're here to stay. It's for the fans to show off their favorite team or player and for the fans that are not knowledgeable enough to know who is, say, number 3 for the Rangers.

It's also going to stay because of the players. Why the players? Because unless they're playing for the Yankees (who don't have names on their jerseys), most players are in MLB for fame and money and what better way to gain prestige than to have your name on the back of a Major League Baseball jersey?

Besides without names on the backs of jerseys, would we have stories like these?

When player names on baseball jerseys in the 1970's first began, it prompted Carlos May of the Chicago White Sox to don number 17. The name and number combination revealed his birthdate.

John Neves, a minor-league ballplayer whose name spelled backwards is seven, wore a backward number 7.

Eddie Gaedel the three-foot-seven midget whom the St.Louis Browns sent up to bat as a publicity stunt in 1951, wore the fraction 1/8.

In other words, baseball jersey names are here to stay, whether you agree with it or not.

Daver
01-29-2003, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by WhiteSox = Life
I think that putting names on uniforms is a double-edged sword.


If you don't like names on uniforms blame Bill Veeck.

WhiteSox = Life
01-29-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by daver
If you don't like names on uniforms blame Bill Veeck.

Personally I thank Bill Veeck, as I like the names on the uniforms, just to set the record straight. Perhaps I didn't get across that viewpoint, but I was merely trying to look at it from both sides of the coin. I'm usually not so impartial, but this time I was just looking at the pros and cons.

I hope you weren't taking my post incorrectly, as I sensed some disgust in your message, but if you don't like what I wrote, fine. That's cool by me.

Daver
01-29-2003, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by WhiteSox = Life


I hope you weren't taking my post incorrectly, as I sensed some disgust in your message, but if you don't like what I wrote, fine. That's cool by me.

I think perhaps you took mine the wrong way,I was merely pointing out that it was Bill Veeck that made it common to put players names on the jersey's,nothing else.

Personally I have no opinion on the subject either way,as far as I am concerned the players can wear burlap bags as long as they play the game.

:)

WhiteSox = Life
01-29-2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by daver
I think perhaps you took mine the wrong way,I was merely pointing out that it was Bill Veeck that made it common to put players names on the jersey's,nothing else.

Personally I have no opinion on the subject either way,as far as I am concerned the players can wear burlap bags as long as they play the game.

:)

Okay, that's cool, I was just wondering, that's all. I've been sick the last couple of days, so my ESP is off, so, please forgive my incorrect telepathy.

:)

Foulke You
01-30-2003, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by SouthSideHitman
I remember, but those weren't the 1906 ones. I was supposed to be at that game, but my friend who was picking me up had his car clock set 15 minutes too fast and left without me!!! It still bugs me that I didn't get to see the flubs first official loss in Comiskey.

I was at this game and unfortunately the Sox lost the very first interleague game that counted. I believe it was 7-3. Most of those runs charged to everyone's favorite Sox pitcher Jaime Navarro who was flapping his mouth before the game on how he wanted to shut down his former team.

Of course, this story has a happy ending, the Sox went on to win in the second game 5-3 behind the strong pitching of Doug Drabek and then take the series finale 3-0 on a complete game shutout by Wilson Alvarez and a homer by Dave Martinez to sweeten the deal. I still have my Sun-Times sports cover from the day after the series that said "South Side Pride- Sox take bragging rights". It was to be the first of many heated series between the two Chicago baseball teams.