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Paulwny
12-04-2002, 12:23 PM
From the Oakland Tribune:

Koch in 2002 walked 46, seven more than starter Cory Lidle. To illustrate further, Koch walked more batters in one season with the A's than Dennis Eckersley walked in his first five years as a full-time closer.

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E10835%257E1029094,00.html

SoxxoS
12-04-2002, 12:28 PM
Nice, we are going to have to sweat every save... :D:

Iwritecode
12-04-2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by SoxxoS
Nice, we are going to have to sweat every save... :D:

Like we didn't have to with Foulke? I swear the man couldn't make the last out without the tying run on base...

SoxxoS
12-04-2002, 01:16 PM
Iwrite-
Not going to disagree with you on that. I am one of the only ones in here that actually liked the trade.

baggio202
12-04-2002, 04:15 PM
If jerry manuel handl;es koch the way he handled foulke, billy might have 15 blown saves by july...how many times was foulke brought in in the middle of an inning..to clean up others messes??...can you imagine if we bring koch in with 2 guys on base already???

HawkDJ
12-04-2002, 05:53 PM
Foulke is the king of heart attack saves. Rarely does he ever pitch a 1-2-3 ninth. It is more like being up by 3 runs he loads the bases then strikes someone out and then a double play.

jeremyb1
12-04-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by HawkDJ2k2
Foulke is the king of heart attack saves. Rarely does he ever pitch a 1-2-3 ninth. It is more like being up by 3 runs he loads the bases then strikes someone out and then a double play.

it may feel like that to you but foulke's carreer whip is 1.06 which is very low. koch's by comparison is about .20 higher meaning he's allows one more baserunner per every five innings that foulke.

Ol Aches & Pains
12-05-2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Paulwny
From the Oakland Tribune:

Koch in 2002 walked 46, seven more than starter Cory Lidle. To illustrate further, Koch walked more batters in one season with the A's than Dennis Eckersley walked in his first five years as a full-time closer.

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E10835%257E1029094,00.html

If he was Dennis Eckersley he wouldn't have been available.

Tragg
12-05-2002, 10:01 PM
This is a regime that has never appreciated the concept of the walk: the damage it causes when their pitchers do it; and what they have never really gotten was the help it brings when our hitters do it or the harm it can cause when our hitters don't do it.