PDA

View Full Version : White Sox Winner


hold2dibber
09-12-2002, 05:03 PM
The game ended a few hours ago, and no posts about today's win!

A really great performance by Garland (a/k/a Cement Head ) - if this guy can just get a little consistency (which seems certainly possible seeing as he's still so young), he has 16 to 18 wins-per-year potential.

RichH55
09-12-2002, 05:40 PM
I'm working on a theory that manos hits better when hes playing SS, but its more a theory than anything

Foulke You
09-12-2002, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by RichH55
I'm working on a theory that manos hits better when hes playing SS, but its more a theory than anything

It does seem that way doesn't it? He's hit a lot more homers since being moved back there a few weeks ago.

maurice
09-12-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by RichH55
I'm working on a theory that manos hits better when hes playing SS, but its more a theory than anything


Good theory. Here are his splits by position in 2001 and 2002 (AVE / OBP / SLG):

As SS in 2001: .312 / .384 / .603
As CF in 2001: .271 / .346 / .471
As 3B in 2001: .225 / .308 / .477

As SS in 2002: .263 / .331 / .534
As 3B in 2002: .244 / .297 / .459

It's also becoming obvious that he hits significantly better from the left side:

v. RHP in 2002: .261 / .323 / .512
v. LHP in 2002: .159 / .213 / .273

Imagine how much his offensive production rate would improve if he played only SS and only against RHP.

Daver
09-12-2002, 07:29 PM
Hey welcome aboard! :redneck

hold2dibber
09-12-2002, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by maurice
Good theory. Here are his splits by position in 2001 and 2002 (AVE / OBP / SLG):

As SS in 2001: .312 / .384 / .603
As CF in 2001: .271 / .346 / .471
As 3B in 2001: .225 / .308 / .477

As SS in 2002: .263 / .331 / .534
As 3B in 2002: .244 / .297 / .459

It's also becoming obvious that he hits significantly better from the left side:

v. RHP in 2002: .261 / .323 / .512
v. LHP in 2002: .159 / .213 / .273

Imagine how much his offensive production rate would improve if he played only SS and only against RHP.

Those are some very compelling numbers. He should be the starting SS next year, with Jimenez moving over to short on occassion against lefties.

duke of dorwood
09-12-2002, 10:02 PM
Also seems to hit better batting second.

RKMeibalane
09-13-2002, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by duke of dorwood
Also seems to hit better batting second.

:jerry

"Jose doesn't really hit better when batting second. That's just what the numbers would have you believe. I think he's much more dangerous when he's being moved all over the lineup."

maurice
09-13-2002, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the welcome, Daver. :D:

Originally posted by duke of dorwood
Also seems to hit better batting second.

I suspect that's true of a lot of hitters, though the only strong example I could find on the Sox is Aaron Rowand:

Crash overall: .249 / .290 / .402
Crash batting 2nd: .323 / .380 / .475

WinningUgly!
09-13-2002, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by maurice
Thanks for the welcome, Daver. :D:



I suspect that's true of a lot of hitters, though the only strong example I could find on the Sox is Aaron Rowand:

Crash overall: .249 / .290 / .402
Crash batting 2nd: .323 / .380 / .475

It also worked for Mighty Mike Caruso a few years back.

Welcome to the show, Mo!:D:

Foulke You
09-13-2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by RKMeibalane
:jerry

"Jose doesn't really hit better when batting second. That's just what the numbers would have you believe. I think he's much more dangerous when he's being moved all over the lineup."


:jerry
"Let me also add that he hits much better when I rest him for 2 days and play him for 2 days, then rest him 2 more days and so forth. It's just as effective as moving him all over the lineup and all over the diamond!"

hold2dibber
09-13-2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Foulke You
:jerry
"Let me also add that he hits much better when I rest him for 2 days and play him for 2 days, then rest him 2 more days and so forth. It's just as effective as moving him all over the lineup and all over the diamond!"

:jerry
"I also find it helpful to always keep him guessing as to where he'll be playing. You know, tell him he's the starting center fielder for the year and then promptly move him back to the infield, or tell him he's the new shortstop and that my son Royce is being benched, but then promptly re-insert Royce into the lineup and move Jose back to 3B. That way he really never knows what to expect!"