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#1swisher
05-09-2016, 01:06 PM
Chicago White Sox Verified account ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox)

(https://twitter.com/whitesox) Prior to tonight’s series opener at Texas, the #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) announced the following three roster moves:


Recalled right-hand pitcher Miguel Gonzales from Class AAA Charlotte
Designated catcher Hector Sanchez for assignment
Returned catcher Alex Avila from his injury rehab assignment at Charlotte and reinstated him from the 15-day DL

BCurley3
05-09-2016, 01:10 PM
Good to see Avila back. Hopefully that's his only injury issue this year.

Chez
05-09-2016, 02:27 PM
I hope we are able to retain Hector Sanchez in the organization. Nice depth piece at catcher.

thomas35forever
05-09-2016, 02:47 PM
I hope we are able to retain Hector Sanchez in the organization. Nice depth piece at catcher.
Agreed. He really showed me something on Thursday with the 10-pitch at-bat to draw a bases-loaded walk. He seems to have bought into the new team philosophy of going deeper into counts. Anyone who can do that deserves to stick around. Hopefully, if Avila and Navarro stay healthy, he can come back up in September.

Chez
05-09-2016, 03:46 PM
Agreed. He really showed me something on Thursday with the 10-pitch at-bat to draw a bases-loaded walk. He seems to have bought into the new team philosophy of going deeper into counts. Anyone who can do that deserves to stick around. Hopefully, if Avila and Navarro stay healthy, he can come back up in September.


Yes. That 10 pitch at bat on Thursday was one of the best at bats by any Sox player this season. And yes, I realize that sounded like something Hawk would say!

TDog
05-09-2016, 04:01 PM
Unless I'm missing something, this seems one move short. A catcher is replaced with another catcher but I don't see anyone for the pitcher being activated.

Noneck
05-09-2016, 04:34 PM
Unless I'm missing something, this seems one move short. A catcher is replaced with another catcher but I don't see anyone for the pitcher being activated.


I assume its Carroll sent down.

DeadMoney
05-09-2016, 04:51 PM
I assume its Carroll sent down.

I believe Kahnle was sent down yesterday.

delben91
05-09-2016, 04:54 PM
I believe Kahnle was sent down yesterday.

Yep, he was sent down last night, so the Sox started today with only 24 on the roster.

Brian26
05-09-2016, 05:34 PM
Yes. That 10 pitch at bat on Thursday was one of the best at bats by any Sox player this season. And yes, I realize that sounded like something Hawk would say!

Hawk would say there might have been another at bat AS GOOD, but show him one that was better.

TDog
05-09-2016, 05:36 PM
I believe Kahnle was sent down yesterday.

I assumed he would be and that he was the one who would go, but I missed the announcement.

#1swisher
05-09-2016, 06:47 PM
Unless I'm missing something, this seems one move short. A catcher is replaced with another catcher but I don't see anyone for the pitcher being activated.

In all, the Knights have sent eight players to Chicago this season, including RHP Erik Johnson (April 19 & May 5), catcher Kevan Smith (April 24), RHP Miguel Gonzalez (April 25 & May 9), catcher Hector Sanchez (April 26), RHP Daniel Webb (April 27), infielder Carlos Sanchez (April 28), RHP Tommy Kahnle (April 29 & May 5), and RHP Scott Carroll (May 6).


Charlotte Knights ‏@KnightsBaseball (https://twitter.com/KnightsBaseball) 5h5 hours ago (https://twitter.com/KnightsBaseball/status/729724925192355841)

Gonzalez promoted, Kahnle back, Avila returned to #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) from #MLB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLB?src=hash) rehab. Full details: http://atmilb.com/1ObVDy7 (https://t.co/U94OQ9iDEP)

Mohoney
05-09-2016, 08:19 PM
I guess the silver lining is that any teams interested in claiming Hector Sanchez on waivers must place him on their 25-man roster. It was a tough break with Kevan Smith getting hurt and his injury requiring the Sox to burn Sanchez's minor league contract. With two catchers already hitting the disabled list in the first month of the season (Kevan Smith is still on there), a depth signing or trade may be required.

Mohoney
05-11-2016, 09:41 PM
The Padres claimed Hector Sanchez. It looks like we will be needing another catcher.

thomas35forever
05-11-2016, 09:43 PM
The Padres claimed Hector Sanchez. It looks like we will be needing another catcher.
Sucks. I really liked him at the end, but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.

Brian26
05-11-2016, 10:16 PM
No hyperbole intended, but Sanchez had one of the best at-bats of the season. Hope he can find a job in SD.

thomas35forever
05-11-2016, 10:23 PM
No hyperbole intended, but Sanchez had one of the best at-bats of the season. Hope he can find a job in SD.
I was at that game and it's why I'm sad to see him go. Baseball is a business though.

Marqhead
05-12-2016, 08:17 PM
Sox acquire Ranaudo, whom they lit up the other day.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/05/white-sox-acquire-anthony-ranaudo.html?fv-home=true

Andrew C White
05-12-2016, 08:35 PM
Sox acquire Ranaudo, whom they lit up the other day.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/05/white-sox-acquire-anthony-ranaudo.html?fv-home=true

Reminiscent of Hector Noesi. Sox lit him up for two huge (7 run) innings when he was with Seattle and then again with Texas. Texas released him afterwards and Sox picked him up.

Ranaudo gave up 5 runs on 1 hit against us and the Sox trade for him. Betcha Coop sees something he likes and something he thinks he can fix.

Noneck
05-12-2016, 08:42 PM
Worth a shot, hes got options.

Mohoney
05-12-2016, 09:02 PM
Petricka is hurt, Webb is hurt, and the 40-man had open spots. I half-expected Hahn to get a pitcher from somewhere this week. Now that Sanchez is gone, I expect him to get a catcher from somewhere, too.

XplodingScorbord
05-12-2016, 09:52 PM
Sox acquire Ranaudo, whom they lit up the other day.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/05/white-sox-acquire-anthony-ranaudo.html?fv-home=true

Coop'll fix him..

/oblig

jcw218
05-12-2016, 10:06 PM
Ranaudo will report to Charlotte along with Carroll and there will be a corresponding move before Friday's game against the Yankees

Lip Man 1
05-12-2016, 11:35 PM
Wish they'd send down Sands and bring up Shuck.

Lip

Mohoney
05-12-2016, 11:44 PM
Wish they'd send down Sands and bring up Shuck.
Lip

Sands can't be sent down, and they're worried about losing him. Why they're worried about losing him, I have no idea.

slavko
05-12-2016, 11:56 PM
Coop'll fix him..

/oblig

Another Noesi?

JB98
05-13-2016, 02:29 AM
Sands can't be sent down, and they're worried about losing him. Why they're worried about losing him, I have no idea.

Yeah, Sands is out of options. Shuck can do more things than Sands, and IMO, Shuck should be on the roster ahead of Sanchez, as well, although that point is arguable.

I just like a fourth outfielder who is at least adequate defensively. Shuck is that; Sands is not.

Noneck
05-13-2016, 12:18 PM
Shuck appears to be getting some time at 1st in Charlotte hopefully he learns the position and is up soon. I cant imagine someone picking up Sands.

white sox bill
05-13-2016, 12:32 PM
Sands can't be sent down, and they're worried about losing him. Why they're worried about losing him, I have no idea.

I'm worried we won't lose him!

#1swisher
05-13-2016, 04:05 PM
ESPNChiSox ‏@ESPNChiSox (https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox) 37m37 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox/status/731204046833360899)

White Sox (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/chw/chicago-white-sox) have promoted left-hander Matt Purke from Triple-A Charlotte and requested waivers on lefty John Danks (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28508/john-danks) for the purpose of giving him his unconditional release
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/15531670/chicago-white-sox-promote-lhp-matt-purke-prepare-release-lhp-john-danks?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

DrCrawdad
05-13-2016, 04:28 PM
ESPNChiSox ‏@ESPNChiSox (https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox) 37m37 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox/status/731204046833360899)

White Sox (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/chw/chicago-white-sox) have promoted left-hander Matt Purke from Triple-A Charlotte and requested waivers on lefty John Danks (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28508/john-danks) for the purpose of giving him his unconditional release
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/15531670/chicago-white-sox-promote-lhp-matt-purke-prepare-release-lhp-john-danks?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Purke's been ok-good at Charlotte and IIRRC he did well in ST too. Time to give him a chance.

TheVulture
05-13-2016, 05:03 PM
Never heard of him, but he looks like a ****ing goofball. I like him already.

soxfanreggie
05-14-2016, 09:41 AM
Purke's been ok-good at Charlotte and IIRRC he did well in ST too. Time to give him a chance.

We are certainly giving everyone a shot at that 5th spot. If we can get anyone to give us 6-7 wins from that position the rest of the year, it's a lot better than what I was expecting from Danks. Hopefully Latos keeps it up or even a high percentage of what he's doing right now. We don't need 5 starters for the playoffs, but we need contributions from 5 to get there.

#1swisher
05-14-2016, 10:04 AM
Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 17h17 hours ago (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/731232945546104832) Bronx, NY (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A002e24c6736f069d)

(https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A002e24c6736f069d) Ventura said Omar Narvaez is the next catcher up if a catcher is needed behind Navarro and Avila

DrCrawdad
05-14-2016, 11:09 AM
We are certainly giving everyone a shot at that 5th spot. If we can get anyone to give us 6-7 wins from that position the rest of the year, it's a lot better than what I was expecting from Danks. Hopefully Latos keeps it up or even a high percentage of what he's doing right now. We don't need 5 starters for the playoffs, but we need contributions from 5 to get there.

I don't believe Purke will see any starts.

voodoochile
05-14-2016, 11:23 AM
I don't believe Purke will see any starts.

Agreed. He's a reliever all the way, IMO. Getting ready to send Carroll back down, IMO.

#1swisher
05-17-2016, 06:15 PM
Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 10m10 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/732693336142811136) Chicago, IL (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c)

Look for one of Monday's games to be started by a call up. White Sox get the extra guy because of the doubleheader

Weekend vs. KC: Fri Quintana vs. Gee, Sat Duffy vs. Gonzalez, Sun Ventura vs. Rodon

[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/732703035248529408"] (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c) So it looks like Latos and callup in Mon DH and Sale Tues vs. Cleve.

#1swisher
05-24-2016, 10:30 AM
Following Game 2, White Sox optioned pitcher Erik Johnson to Class AAA Charlotte.
Following the move, Chicago's active roster returns to 25.

voodoochile
05-24-2016, 10:43 AM
Following Game 2, White Sox optioned pitcher Erik Johnson to Class AAA Charlotte.
Following the move, Chicago's active roster returns to 25.

So they kept Kahnle up and didn't recall Shuck.

kittle42
05-24-2016, 10:44 AM
So they kept Kahnle up and didn't recall Shuck.

They need the pen arm right now, I think.

Can we please not see Carlos Sanchez again? That would be great.

Mohoney
05-24-2016, 10:48 AM
They need the pen arm right now, I think.

Can we please not see Carlos Sanchez again? That would be great.

Sanchez was optioned yesterday. He probably won't be back unless Lawrie, Rollins, or Saladino lands on the DL.

veeter
05-24-2016, 12:51 PM
I like Sanchez and I think if he were in the NL he could be a nice utility guy. It just doesn't seem to be working with the White Sox.

Andrew C White
05-24-2016, 08:49 PM
I would happily keep Sanchez and give him some playing time. I am still not sold on Lawrie and would have been perfectly happy starting Sanchez at 2B.

But if he is not going to get playing time, and he isn't on the current team, then I'd rather he get regular time down at Charlotte.

Sanchez is a good ballplayer. He just needs an opportunity.

voodoochile
05-24-2016, 09:58 PM
I would happily keep Sanchez and give him some playing time. I am still not sold on Lawrie and would have been perfectly happy starting Sanchez at 2B.

But if he is not going to get playing time, and he isn't on the current team, then I'd rather he get regular time down at Charlotte.

Sanchez is a good ballplayer. He just needs an opportunity.

You're not sold on Lawrie and his .801 OPS which is over 200 points higher than Sanchez managed last year and almost 400 points higher than this year? :?: What would it take for you to go all in on Lawrie? :scratch:

Andrew C White
05-24-2016, 10:23 PM
You're not sold on Lawrie and his .801 OPS which is over 200 points higher than Sanchez managed last year and almost 400 points higher than this year? :?: What would it take for you to go all in on Lawrie? :scratch:

I wasn't comparing Lawrie and Sanchez (besides the fact that it is silly and unrealistic to compare a veterans numbers to a rookies).

And I didn't suggest that we start Sanchez over Lawrie. Lawrie is a proven veteran and a good player. Sanchez is basically a rookie who may not be a major league starter but I think has the ability to be given time and at-bats.

But I am not sold on Lawrie. He's ok. He might be better than ok. He might be more trouble than he is worth. He might also help us win a championship... but I'm not sold on him yet. The jury is out.

But I am happy Saladino is getting more playing time at SS and I would have been just as happy with Sanchez at 2B providing gold glove quality defense and maybe learning to hit at the major league level. But that's because I value quality defense very, very much.

voodoochile
05-24-2016, 11:10 PM
I wasn't comparing Lawrie and Sanchez (besides the fact that it is silly and unrealistic to compare a veterans numbers to a rookies).

And I didn't suggest that we start Sanchez over Lawrie. Lawrie is a proven veteran and a good player. Sanchez is basically a rookie who may not be a major league starter but I think has the ability to be given time and at-bats.

But I am not sold on Lawrie. He's ok. He might be better than ok. He might be more trouble than he is worth. He might also help us win a championship... but I'm not sold on him yet. The jury is out.

But I am happy Saladino is getting more playing time at SS and I would have been just as happy with Sanchez at 2B providing gold glove quality defense and maybe learning to hit at the major league level. But that's because I value quality defense very, very much.

Sanchez is more like a second year player. He got over 400 AB last year and his defense was nice with a 1.0 DWAR but hardly gold glove worthy and whether it's good enough to make up for his <.600 OPS is highly debatable, but to each their own. I agree he's better served playing every day in the minors. He shouldn't be taking AB from Lawrie who has one been one of the bright offensive spots this year and is on pace to post a nearly 3.0 OWAR.

#1swisher
05-25-2016, 10:39 AM
Ventura seemed to indicate that the White Sox could go back to an extra position player for an Interleague series against the Mets beginning Monday.

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/180002738/white-sox-load-up-on-relievers-for-time-being

PaleHoser
05-25-2016, 01:06 PM
Hopefully this means the return of J.B. Schuck.

#1swisher
05-30-2016, 10:06 AM
Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 19m19 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/737281763848953856)

JB Shuck is here. No roster move announced yet.


Eaton
Abreu
Cabrera
Frazier
Shuck cf
Lawrie
Rollins
Avila
Qunintana

voodoochile
05-30-2016, 10:47 AM
Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 19m19 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/737281763848953856)

JB Shuck is here. No roster move announced yet.


Eaton
Abreu
Cabrera
Frazier
Shuck cf
Lawrie
Rollins
Avila
Qunintana

The lineup/roster card doesn't show Kahnle.

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/737285259256008704

DrCrawdad
05-30-2016, 10:48 AM
The lineup/roster card doesn't show Kahnle.

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/737285259256008704

Kahnle was sent to AAA

Dick Allen
05-30-2016, 12:06 PM
The lineup/roster card doesn't show Kahnle.

https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/737285259256008704

Kahnle was sent to AAAShould have sent the rest of the bullpen down with him.

#1swisher
06-03-2016, 02:15 PM
Chicago White Sox Verified account ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox) 13m13 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/738792828453588992)

Prior to tonight’s game, #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) placed Melky Cabrera on the Family Emergency Leave List and recalled RHP Tommy Kahnle from Charlotte.

thomas35forever
06-03-2016, 02:38 PM
Best of luck to Melky. You never wanna have this happen anytime, but especially during the season.

EMachine10
06-04-2016, 01:44 PM
Jason Coats up and in the lineup for today's game. Has hit well along his stops in the minors. Was a well-regarded college player who the Sox drafted at an extreme discount following an injury.

thomas35forever
06-04-2016, 01:46 PM
Jason Coats up and in the lineup for today's game. Has hit well along his stops in the minors. Was a well-regarded college player who the Sox drafted at an extreme discount following an injury.
Couldn't hurt. At this point, I'm willing to give anyone who might be able to hit a shot. Moreso than another Class AAAA reliever anyway.

Noneck
06-04-2016, 01:47 PM
Jason Coats up and in the lineup for today's game. Has hit well along his stops in the minors. Was a well-regarded college player who the Sox drafted at an extreme discount following an injury.


That move should have been made yesterday.

EMachine10
06-04-2016, 02:01 PM
That move should have been made yesterday.

Could have, but Kahnle offered the opportunity to rest the bullpen just a little more if needed. They were exceptionally busy for a stretch there.

thomas35forever
06-07-2016, 04:57 PM
https://twitter.com/gfclark89/status/740285943274340352
Sands and Coats are out to make room for Shields and Cabrera.

Lip Man 1
06-07-2016, 05:17 PM
Positive move. Sands was bringing very little if anything to the table...simply taking up a roster spot.

Lip

kittle42
06-07-2016, 05:18 PM
Oh, no! Robin's favorite 2 and 5 hitters, poof!

anewman35
06-07-2016, 05:22 PM
Positive move. Sands was bringing very little if anything to the table...simply taking up a roster spot.

Lip

It'll be interesting to see who's the backup at first now, though. The most logical answer is to move Frazier there, but they've also played Saladino there for three innings over the last two years...

eriqjaffe
06-07-2016, 05:23 PM
Oh, no! Robin's favorite 2 and 5 hitters, poof!Man, for a minute I thought I had missed some news about Jimmy Rollins getting DFA'd.

Chez
06-07-2016, 05:30 PM
https://twitter.com/gfclark89/status/740285943274340352
Sands and Coats are out to make room for Shields and Cabrera.


Why is Matt Purke still on the MLB roster? I guess with Rodon unavailable, they feel they still need an extra arm?

Foulke You
06-07-2016, 06:36 PM
Why is Matt Purke still on the MLB roster? I guess with Rodon unavailable, they feel they still need an extra arm?
Rodon going on the DL means Gonzalez is back in the rotation for a time. Both Gonzalez and Latos usually only go 5 or 6 innings so they probably want Purke there for long relief cushion. It does seem like putting Rodon on the DL would be the wiser choice rather than playing a man short but evidently, they don't feel Rodon's injury is serious.

Really glad Sands is gone. I hope this means Davidson will get a look at some point in the near future.

Noneck
06-07-2016, 06:59 PM
I would assume sands will sign on with Charlotte, I cant see anyone picking him up.

I wish the Sox had someone to back up at 1st beside Frazier.

LITTLE NELL
06-07-2016, 08:15 PM
I would assume sands will sign on with Charlotte, I cant see anyone picking him up.

I wish the Sox had someone to back up at 1st beside Frazier.

We had a chance for James Loney at hardly any cost who is a very good contact hitter and excellent with the glove, instead we have the watch guys like Sands and Coats.

Noneck
06-07-2016, 08:26 PM
We had a chance for James Loney at hardly any cost who is a very good contact hitter and excellent with the glove, instead we have the watch guys like Sands and Coats.


Not much of a down side with what the Sox have been strolling up to the plate as a DH. Another ship that has sailed.

voodoochile
06-07-2016, 09:02 PM
I would assume sands will sign on with Charlotte, I cant see anyone picking him up.

I wish the Sox had someone to back up at 1st beside Frazier.

Saladino can play first and has already this year.

jcw218
06-10-2016, 05:42 PM
While Webb and Petricka were already on the DL, they are both out for the rest of the season. Webb having Tommy John surgery and Petricka having surgery on his hip.

Chez
06-14-2016, 10:50 AM
Tyler Danish was optioned to Charlotte after last night's poor showing.

#1swisher
06-14-2016, 11:11 AM
Danish working more frequently in relief when he's accustomed to pitching every five days with side sessions in between.

"It's just throwing strikes," Danish said. "You get in for one inning, and you show your best stuff. It's a lot of preparation going into starting, but bullpen-wise, you never know when that call is going to come down to the bullpen. You have to be ready at all times. I have to get back into a routine of understanding when to throw off the mound and work on stuff when I play catch, and it's just very easy to do.

"So, my work now is when I'm warming up for the game. It's the only time I get off the mound before I'm in the game. It's just every pitch now, it's a meaningful pitch. When you start, you have your bullpen [session], so you work on little things here and there. But now it's like every pitch means something."
http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/183858420/white-sox-tyler-danish-adjusting-to-bullpen

smac38
06-14-2016, 12:34 PM
Ynoa called up to take Danish's place

JB98
06-14-2016, 01:19 PM
Ynoa called up to take Danish's place

I'm bracing myself mentally for the inevitable showdown between Ynoa and Miguel Cabrera in the seventh inning of a close game tonight.

I don't understand why they can't bring up another position player that might actually help the team, as opposed to a marginal relief pitcher that will inevitably be thrown into a situation that he can't reasonably be expected to handle.

smac38
06-14-2016, 01:28 PM
I'm bracing myself mentally for the inevitable showdown between Ynoa and Miguel Cabrera in the seventh inning of a close game tonight.

I don't understand why they can't bring up another position player that might actually help the team, as opposed to a marginal relief pitcher that will inevitably be thrown into a situation that he can't reasonably be expected to handle.

Why would we need that, we have Jason Coates and JB Shuck!

Chez
06-14-2016, 01:29 PM
I'm bracing myself mentally for the inevitable showdown between Ynoa and Miguel Cabrera in the seventh inning of a close game tonight.

I don't understand why they can't bring up another position player that might actually help the team, as opposed to a marginal relief pitcher that will inevitably be thrown into a situation that he can't reasonably be expected to handle.


I guess they feel that the way to address the general ineffectiveness of the majority of the bullpen is with quantity not quality. Throw in the increasingly frequent game when the starter can't get to the 6th inning and you have the apparent need for an 8 man bullpen.

JB98
06-14-2016, 01:34 PM
I guess they feel that the way to address the general ineffectiveness of the majority of the bullpen is with quantity not quality. Throw in the increasingly frequent game when the starter can't get to the 6th inning and you have the apparent need for an 8 man bullpen.

Thing is, I don't think the majority of the bullpen has been ineffective lately. The scars remain from the meltdowns in Kansas City, for sure, but in general, I think the bullpen has settled down since then.

It's probably more the latter point that you mentioned: Starters getting knocked out early too frequently. But if that's the case, you use Ynoa tonight only if Gonzalez gets knocked out early. There's no reason for him to be in a close game in the seventh, eighth, or ninth inning. Yet I fear we'll see exactly that because Ynoa is the "freshest" guy in the bullpen or whatever.

Chez
06-14-2016, 01:49 PM
Thing is, I don't think the majority of the bullpen has been ineffective lately. The scars remain from the meltdowns in Kansas City, for sure, but in general, I think the bullpen has settled down since then.

It's probably more the latter point that you mentioned: Starters getting knocked out early too frequently. But if that's the case, you use Ynoa tonight only if Gonzalez gets knocked out early. There's no reason for him to be in a close game in the seventh, eighth, or ninth inning. Yet I fear we'll see exactly that because Ynoa is the "freshest" guy in the bullpen or whatever.


Words I thought I never would say: "I kind of miss Jake Petricka."

JB98
06-14-2016, 02:06 PM
Words I thought I never would say: "I kind of miss Jake Petricka."

Seriously. I think the recent slump by Fat Albers was, in part, because of overuse. Albers absorbed most of the situations that would normally go to Petricka, in addition to what would be his normal workload.

They don't seem to use Putnam enough, although I frequently hear that he's "unavailable" for assorted health issues. He doesn't pitch on back-to-back days too often.

Noneck
06-14-2016, 02:08 PM
Words I thought I never would say: "I kind of miss Jake Petricka."


Webb also, the more options the better.

DrCrawdad
06-14-2016, 02:45 PM
This is an opportunity for Ynoa. From what I’ve read before Ynoa’s Tommy John Surgery he was considered a top prospect. As such the A’s gave him a $4.25 million signing bonus. Ynoa has 12 BB for 27.2IP this season (combined AA/AAA). So Ynoa will fit right in the Sox staff.

Foulke You
06-14-2016, 03:05 PM
Words I thought I never would say: "I kind of miss Jake Petricka."
They definitely miss him. He was an important part of the bullpen. It wasn't unusual for him to eat 2 innings in relief. Covered the 6th and 7th a lot of times in tandem with Putnam. Petricka's absence has forced guys like Dan Jennings, Tommy Kahnle, etc into more high leverage situations because Robin refuses to bump his higher leverage pitchers earlier in games.
I'm bracing myself mentally for the inevitable showdown between Ynoa and Miguel Cabrera in the seventh inning of a close game tonight.
My thoughts exactly. Robin hasn't been shy about throwing his farmhand bullpen arms directly on the hot flame. Albers and Jones both threw 2 innings yesterday. I'd expect Robin to stay away from using them unless he has to. My hope is that Gonzalez goes 6 and maybe Putnam absorbs 2 innings to bridge the game to Robertson. However, as you stated, I'm bracing myself for Ynoa to face Cabrera, Victor, and Martinez in a key situation.

wxkid23
06-14-2016, 04:09 PM
Tyler Danish was optioned to Charlotte after last night's poor showing.

Great job by the manager putting the kid in a position to fail

wxkid23
06-14-2016, 04:12 PM
This is an opportunity for Ynoa. From what I’ve read before Ynoa’s Tommy John Surgery he was considered a top prospect. As such the A’s gave him a $4.25 million signing bonus. Ynoa has 12 BB for 27.2IP this season (combined AA/AAA). So Ynoa will fit right in the Sox staff.

He was the best latin prospect in 2008 and the best since Felix in 2002. He was a major prospect. I doubt he's anything anymore given his stats. He is only 24... who knows

wxkid23
06-15-2016, 04:30 PM
Kenny is on the phone with Jose :rolleyes:

EMachine10
06-21-2016, 12:12 PM
Putnam to DL; Beck recalled from Charlotte.

Chez
06-21-2016, 12:14 PM
Putnam to DL; Beck recalled from Charlotte.


That's too bad. Prior to the 9th last night, Putnam had been one of the Sox few reliable relievers.

Lip Man 1
06-21-2016, 01:19 PM
That's the last thing this battered bullpen needs.

Lip

JB98
06-21-2016, 01:41 PM
Putnam obviously didn't look right last night. It's getting real thin in the bullpen. I don't think Chris Beck can help much. He'll join Purke in the "mop-up only" club.

#1swisher
06-21-2016, 02:32 PM
Zach Putnam on 15-day DL (ulnar neuritis, right elbow); recall RHP Chris Beck from Triple-A Charlotte.


Austin Jackson underwent surgery on 6/15 in Los Angeles to
debride and remove a small portion of the medial meniscus in
his left knee ... Jackson will be on crutches for two weeks and
reexamined in four weeks.

Jake Petricka (torn labrum in his right hip) and
Daniel Webb (Tommy John) both underwent surgeries on 6/10.

Petricka will likely miss the remainder of the season after his
labrum was repaired and debrided in a procedure in Denver ...
Webb will miss the rest of the season after his ulnar collateral
ligament was successfully repaired in Cincinnati.

Noneck
06-21-2016, 03:09 PM
Austin Jackson underwent surgery on 6/15 in Los Angeles to
debride and remove a small portion of the medial meniscus in
his left knee ... Jackson will be on crutches for two weeks and
reexamined in four weeks.

Jake Petricka (torn labrum in his right hip) and
Daniel Webb (Tommy John) both underwent surgeries on 6/10.

Petricka will likely miss the remainder of the season after his
labrum was repaired and debrided in a procedure in Denver ...
Webb will miss the rest of the season after his ulnar collateral
ligament was successfully repaired in Cincinnati.


All three surgeries done outside Chicago.

FielderJones
06-21-2016, 03:11 PM
All three surgeries done outside Chicago.

Dr. Romeo needs to advertise more.

XplodingScorbord
06-30-2016, 10:34 AM
Per Colleen Kane:

Colleen Kane @ChiTribKane
(https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane) White Sox call up Matt Davidson from AAA Charlotte.

kittle42
06-30-2016, 10:35 AM
Good! I've missed Mike Olt.

LoveYourSuit
06-30-2016, 10:42 AM
Good! I've missed Mike Olt.

:rolleyes: Seriously?

How do you know he's Mike Olt bad.

Not expecting greatness here, but let's give the guy a chance.

#1swisher
06-30-2016, 10:48 AM
Purke optioned to Charlotte
Class AAA Charlotte third baseman Matt Davidson (.268, 10 homers, 20 doubles, 46 RBI) and infielder-outfielder Leury Garcia (.310, 18 RBI, 12 steals) were named to the International League All-Star team, and it would makes sense if Davidson gets called up Thursday. The Sox, who have been carrying 13 pitchers, are especially short on the bench with Cabrera out, optioned lefty Matt Purke to Charlotte after the game Wednesday. .

Zach Putnam
facing the possibility an arthroscopic procedure to remove bone chips from his elbow, or even Tommy John surgery. “My last two outings, Cleveland and Boston [last week] I started having some pretty serious issues again that I couldn’t ignore,’’ he said.

Melky Cabrera
A switch-hitter, Cabrera said the wrist bothers him only swinging left-handed but the Sox doctors and training staff are prescribing 3-4 games of rest.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/melky-cabrera-to-miss-3-4-games-with-wrist-injury/

#1swisher
06-30-2016, 10:49 AM
Colleen Kane @ChiTribKane (https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane)
White Sox call up Matt Davidson from AAA Charlotte.

Scott Merkin Verified account ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 19m19 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/748524939582504961) Chicago, IL (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c)

(https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c) Matt Davidson officially recalled by the White Sox from Triple-A Charlotte

kobo
06-30-2016, 10:54 AM
He will most likely DH so as long as he hits better than Garcia it's a win in my book.

voodoochile
06-30-2016, 11:03 AM
He will most likely DH so as long as he hits better than Garcia it's a win in my book.

I imagine we'll see a fair amount of him at 3B when Frazier is giving Abreu a day off to DH which has become more common recently. Once Melky returns we'll only see Garcia when an OF needs a day off and once Jackson returns we'll more likely see Shuck as the primary BU OF.

Noneck
06-30-2016, 11:07 AM
Wrist injuries can be real tricky, a lot of small bones in there. We will see but Melky may be DLed. The OF is a mess now and will get messier without Melky. And Melky does currently have trade deadline value, a real wrist injury would nix that.

LoveYourSuit
06-30-2016, 11:10 AM
I imagine we'll see a fair amount of him at 3B when Frazier is giving Abreu a day off to DH which has become more common recently. Once Melky returns we'll only see Garcia when an OF needs a day off and once Jackson returns we'll more likely see Shuck as the primary BU OF.

Ageee. He's a much better glove at 3B than Frazier is.

Noneck
06-30-2016, 11:16 AM
Davidson was given a bit of time at 1st this year in Charlotte.

kittle42
06-30-2016, 11:20 AM
:rolleyes: Seriously?

How do you know he's Mike Olt bad.

Not expecting greatness here, but let's give the guy a chance.

I don't know anything. Just giving an opinion based on some research. I very much want to be incorrect. I just expect very little.

kobo
06-30-2016, 12:35 PM
Ageee. He's a much better glove at 3B than Frazier is.
:?::?: He is? Since when?

LoveYourSuit
06-30-2016, 12:43 PM
:?::?: He is? Since when?

Managers voted him top defensive 3B in the IL, and both Hahn and Bell praised the significant improvements he made with the glove down there.

Frazier is rated bottom 3rd in the MLB defensively right now.

Noneck
06-30-2016, 12:58 PM
Frazier is rated bottom 3rd in the MLB defensively right now.


Frazier being a great defensive 3rd baseman has probably been the biggest Sox myth of this year.

TomBradley72
06-30-2016, 02:52 PM
Davidson's been on a nice trend- steadily improving since a poor April- and hitting over .300 vs. LHs for the year-

The way L. Garcia is playing at AAA- might be a better option than Coats- a little more flexibility and some speed off the bench. He's sucked up until now at the major league level- but only 25 yo-

#1swisher
06-30-2016, 02:54 PM
Robert Murray ‏@RobertMurrayBBE (https://twitter.com/RobertMurrayBBE) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/RobertMurrayBBE/status/748589601791541249)

Sources: #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) acquiring Brady Shoemaker from #Marlins (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Marlins?src=hash).

TheVulture
06-30-2016, 04:59 PM
:rolleyes: Seriously?

How do you know he's Mike Olt bad.


I was wondering what makes him think he's that good.

hoosiersoxfan
06-30-2016, 05:25 PM
Davidson has a fractured foot :angry:

spongyfungy
06-30-2016, 05:26 PM
Davidson has a fractured foot :angry:

Just heard... How many callups have gotten hurt the first day?

DumpJerry
06-30-2016, 05:27 PM
Davidson has a fractured foot :angry:

Just heard... How many callups have gotten hurt the first day?
We're snake bit. Lost a catcher earlier this year stretching out for his MLB debut.....sigh.

gobears1987
06-30-2016, 05:33 PM
This took me 5 seconds to do.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/69172900.jpg

Lip Man 1
06-30-2016, 05:34 PM
Baseball gods once again laughing at the White Sox.

All you can do is laugh with them I guess... only the White Sox.

Lip

#1swisher
07-01-2016, 01:40 PM
Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox) 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/748909139489939456)

Prior to tonight’s game, the #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) placed 3B Matt Davidson on the 15-day DL & recalled infielder Carlos Sanchez from Charlotte.

Lip Man 1
07-01-2016, 02:17 PM
Sanchez back...oh boy...another utility infielder. But who the hell else can they call up that's worth a damn.

If they are "going for it" now would be a good time for Kenny Hahn to swing some deals like the Dodgers / Braves did yesterday.

Lip

rdivaldi
07-01-2016, 02:31 PM
:threadblows:

Can we quit the dramatic pity party now?

TomBradley72
07-01-2016, 02:34 PM
Must be planning on the Saladino-3B, Frazier-1B and Abreu-DH combo as they work through the Melky/Jackson injuries- so Sanchez takes Saladino's utility role-

Otherwise Bourgeois or L Garcia would have made sense for extra OF-

smac38
07-01-2016, 02:37 PM
Otherwise Bourgeois or L Garcia would have made sense for extra OF-

I just threw up in my mouth

JB98
07-01-2016, 03:47 PM
Must be planning on the Saladino-3B, Frazier-1B and Abreu-DH combo as they work through the Melky/Jackson injuries- so Sanchez takes Saladino's utility role-

Otherwise Bourgeois or L Garcia would have made sense for extra OF-

Yeah, those were the other options. Sanchez isn't likely to help much, but he's the best of the remaining choices.

Injuries have hit the Sox pretty hard this year.

cards press box
07-01-2016, 04:51 PM
Anyone know how long Davidson is expected to be out?

#1swisher
07-02-2016, 06:20 AM
Davidson underwent successful surgery at Rush University Medical Center on Friday, as a screw was inserted to repair the fracture in a procedure performed by Dr. Simon Lee, the White Sox foot and ankle specialist.

In two weeks, Davidson will be re-evaluated with a new X-ray. The White Sox will determine a long-term plan for recovery at that time.
http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/187313382/matt-davidson-placed-on-disabled-list

#1swisher
07-03-2016, 07:42 AM
Melky Cabrera (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6347/melky-cabrera) is expected to return Monday after missing the past four games with a sprained right wrist.

#1swisher
07-04-2016, 09:07 AM
Putnam
"I just played a little bit of catch and nothing really too indicative of anything," Putnam said. "I didn't put a lot of tax on it or anything. But it's fine. We are going to continue to kind of stay the course, throw again Monday and each time increase the workload a little bit and just re-evaluate after each session."

Morneau
begins his rehab assignment Monday with Triple-A Charlotte.

"I'm sure I'll be nervous to be out there and let it fly in a game, but it will be interesting," Morneau said in between his Sunday workouts at Minute Maid Park. "Like I've talked about before, it's less controlled when a guy is actually trying to get me out, not trying to get me to hit it.


Morneau said 30 at-bats would be what he guesses as the minimum necessary with the Knights, a return to the White Sox is possible during their road trip to Anaheim and Seattle to start the second half.

#1swisher
07-05-2016, 11:38 PM
Morneau
0-4 K in first two games with Charlotte

"The timing is the most important thing. You know, [seeing] pitches. Obviously, it's nice to get hits, but to feel good and feel like you're on time and feel like you're able to catch up to the fastest pitch is really what you want to feel right now."
Morneau said the elbow bounced back fine after Monday. He is targeted for three at-bats in the second game of the assignment,

http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/188104698/justin-morneau-hitless-in-first-rehab-game/

gobears1987
07-05-2016, 11:46 PM
Morneau
0-4 K in first two games with Charlotte

well done Rick!

thomas35forever
07-06-2016, 12:01 AM
well done Rick!

Sorry. I forgot if moves don't produce immediate results, it was all wrong.

FielderJones
07-06-2016, 12:07 AM
Sorry. I forgot if moves don't produce immediate results, it was all wrong.

Any player that starts out 0-4, let alone 0-41, will never amount to anything and is a complete bust.

ricker182
07-06-2016, 12:09 AM
well done Rick!

All he has to do is be better than Avi.

That shouldn't be too difficult.

JB98
07-06-2016, 12:52 AM
All he has to do is be better than Avi.

That shouldn't be too difficult.

Yeah, there's a reason they send players on rehab assignments. Morneau hasn't faced live pitching since last season, while others are in midseason form at this time. It's not reasonable to think he's going to go down there and tear it up from Day 1. Let's see where we're at after the break.

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 10:24 AM
Any player that starts out 0-4, let alone 0-41, will never amount to anything and is a complete bust.

It's a proven fact that players who start 0-41 should never be allowed to ****ing manage in the big leagues.

LoveYourSuit
07-06-2016, 10:30 AM
It's a proven fact that players who start 0-41 should never be allowed to ****ing manage in the big leagues.


100% in agreement on that part.

Foulke You
07-06-2016, 12:16 PM
In light of the Avila injury, I imagine Narvaez is next up on the depth chart? It's a shame we lost Sanchez on waivers earlier this year. He seemed like a capable 3rd catcher. Losing Avila is problematic for a variety of reasons. For starters, Avila has been hitting well for the last 4 weeks. Also, it takes away a DH option in addition to forcing a fringe catcher to the backup role. The all star break should hopefully lessen the impact of this injury but it is still likely to force a AAA or AA catcher to the roster for a spell.

well done Rick!
:rolleyes: This is essentially the first week of Spring Training for Justin Morneau. He hasn't faced live pitching since April of 2015.

FielderJones
07-06-2016, 12:18 PM
It's a proven fact that players who start 0-41 should never be allowed to ****ing manage in the big leagues.

That has what to do with Morneau's 0-4 start and whether he is now a complete bust? :rolleyes:

#1swisher
07-06-2016, 02:08 PM
Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan (https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan) 59s (https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/750752367574851584)
Jake Petricka transferred to 60-day DL to make room for Narvaez on 40-man roster.




Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) 3m (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/750752392186982400)
#WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) announced they have promoted C Omar Narvaez as Alex Avila goes on the disabled list, strained right hamstring.

Noneck
07-06-2016, 02:30 PM
I assume Avila wont be DLed so I guess Sanchez will be sent down?


Ooops I see Avila was Dled, that not good at all.

voodoochile
07-06-2016, 02:40 PM
I assume Avila wont be DLed so I guess Sanchez will be sent down?


Ooops I see Avila was Dled, that not good at all.

Well good news is the Sox have 5 of next 9 days off. Navarro might be able to catch all but 2 games before Avila comes back and maybe all of them.

Mohoney
07-06-2016, 02:55 PM
All he has to do is be better than Avi.

That shouldn't be too difficult.

Being "better than Avi" may get Morneau a spot in the lineup, but that may not be enough for this team to make the playoffs. Honestly, I don't think they make the playoffs without acquiring a 20-30 HR left-handed bat for the heart of the order, and I don't think Morneau will be that guy. Morneau should be looked at as a lefty bat off the bench more than anything else. Rick Hahn still needs to go get somebody.

Foulke You
07-06-2016, 02:59 PM
Well good news is the Sox have 5 of next 9 days off. Navarro might be able to catch all but 2 games before Avila comes back and maybe all of them.
I'm hoping Navarro can keep his recent hot hitting going during this stretch because he is going to be getting a ton of playing time. From what I've read, Narvaez profiles as more of a contact hitter. Minor league numbers suggest he has a strong throwing arm though because he has nailed 40% of baserunners.

LakeShoreSox
07-06-2016, 03:07 PM
I'm hoping Navarro can keep his recent hot hitting going during this stretch because he is going to be getting a ton of playing time. From what I've read, Narvaez profiles as more of a contact hitter. Minor league numbers suggest he has a strong throwing arm though because he has nailed 40% of baserunners.So long as he is not a liability while in the field, I guess he will have to do. I can't see Navarro maintaining this stretch of power that he has had but I also doubted him earlier in the season so here's to hoping he proves me wrong again.

I also hope this is the last of injuries we see to Avila but I really have no confidence that this isn't going to be a trend the rest of the year.

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 03:11 PM
Being "better than Avi" may get Morneau a spot in the lineup, but that may not be enough for this team to make the playoffs. Honestly, I don't think they make the playoffs without acquiring a 20-30 HR left-handed bat for the heart of the order, and I don't think Morneau will be that guy. Morneau should be looked at as a lefty bat off the bench more than anything else. Rick Hahn still needs to go get somebody.

Playoffs! Don't talk about playoffs! You kidding me, playoffs?

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 03:23 PM
That has what to do with Morneau's 0-4 start and whether he is now a complete bust? :rolleyes:Sorry for not having any confidence in a 35 year old lefty, coming off of surgery, who batted .259 his last season in the AL.

How can anyone expect him to delivery anything? He could kill the ball in AAA for all I care, I would stake good money that he's going to suck here.

voodoochile
07-06-2016, 04:43 PM
Playoffs! Don't talk about playoffs! You kidding me, playoffs?

You keep this up I'm gonna start a special thread for you in the Roadhouse titled "gobears dark cloud emporium" and start automatically moving the worst of your negative posts to it. Stop crapping all over the forums please.

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 04:50 PM
You keep this up I'm gonna start a special thread for you in the Roadhouse titled "gobears dark cloud emporium" and start automatically moving the worst of your negative posts to it. Stop crapping all over the forums please.

I used to be an optimist regarding this team. My posts from 5 years ago probably reflect that as well. I just can't lie about how I feel about these guys. I don't think I will feel optimistic again until we have a regime change of some sort. I just cannot believe in anyone outside of a few players and our bench coach. I used to laugh at HomeFish's and Lip's impending sense of doom regarding this team. Now I feel I've crossed into their realm.

I would love to be optimistic about this team again. It just isn't happening until certain front office people and coaches are gone as I have no faith in those currently there to deliver. I should have trusted my instincts in April when they started hot. I knew better inside, but I allowed myself to get swept up in the hype of that fluke of a month.

kittle42
07-06-2016, 05:35 PM
I used to be an optimist regarding this team. My posts from 5 years ago probably reflect that as well. I just can't lie about how I feel about these guys. I don't think I will feel optimistic again until we have a regime change of some sort. I just cannot believe in anyone outside of a few players and our bench coach. I used to laugh at HomeFish's and Lip's impending sense of doom regarding this team. Now I feel I've crossed into their realm.

I would love to be optimistic about this team again. It just isn't happening until certain front office people and coaches are gone as I have no faith in those currently there to deliver. I should have trusted my instincts in April when they started hot. I knew better inside, but I allowed myself to get swept up in the hype of that fluke of a month.

That's all fine, honestly, as I feel much the same way, but pick your battles. Railing against an 0-4 minor league rehab performance out of the gate is a battle that need not be picked when there are *so* may other ones to choose from.

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 06:21 PM
That's all fine, honestly, as I feel much the same way, but pick your battles. Railing against an 0-4 minor league rehab performance out of the gate is a battle that need not be picked when there are *so* may other ones to choose from.

I guess it isn't so much picking on Morneau so much as picking on the fact we have staked our season on him becoming our savior because we have failed to produce a single non-pitching prospect in the last 15 years sans Anderson (who while very promising has still only had about a month to judge from)

TomBradley72
07-06-2016, 06:26 PM
Can we bring Tyler Flowers back?

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 06:57 PM
Can we bring Tyler Flowers back?

He doesn't suck anymore now that he left... makes you wonder.:scratch:

shingo10
07-06-2016, 07:20 PM
He doesn't suck anymore now that he left... makes you wonder.:scratch:

He still sucks.

voodoochile
07-06-2016, 07:26 PM
I guess it isn't so much picking on Morneau so much as picking on the fact we have staked our season on him becoming our savior because we have failed to produce a single non-pitching prospect in the last 15 years sans Anderson (who while very promising has still only had about a month to judge from)

NO! That's YOUR perception of things. The reality is that they invested a little more than league minimum in a player with his length of seniority and let him work his way back into shape after surgery last year.

There are still 6 weeks after he returns to make a trade for more offense. This doesn't have to be the only bullet in the gun. You are just assuming that's the case because you are upset with the Sox. Your negative perceptions are coloring your analysis.

gobears1987
07-06-2016, 07:29 PM
He still sucks.

He's not good by any means, but I'd consider a 0.255 average from a catcher to at least be passable.

#1swisher
07-06-2016, 11:42 PM
Scot Gregor ‏@scotgregor (https://twitter.com/scotgregor) 3h3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/750845434231398400)

First two at-bats for rehabbing Justin Morneau with Class AAA Charlotte tonight--walk, single


Dan Hayes Verified account ‏@CSNHayes (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) 1h1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/750877400846786560)

(https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/750877400846786560)
Justin Morneau went 1-for-3 with a walk today at Triple-A Charlotte.

RCWHITESOX
07-07-2016, 02:51 AM
The Sox have comeback from the dead and have taken the last 5 series. I like what I'm seeing and I feel Hahn will hopefully land a CF like Gonzales. But I'm just as sure many posters will be singing the blues as to what the Sox will have give up to get them. I'm sure who ever they give up some will be saying that these prospects are the stars of tomorrow. It seems no matter how hard Hahn tries he can't win for losing. I say keep up the good work, and hopefully will see the playoffs; because that's what it is all about.

kittle42
07-07-2016, 10:54 AM
I like what I'm seeing and I feel Hahn will hopefully land a CF like Gonzales.

I'm not sure what people think the Sox have that will be of interest to teams like Colorado and Cincy. They're not moving Anderson. Fullmer has been meh.

But I'm just as sure many posters will be singing the blues as to what the Sox will have give up to get them.

If it's Anderson for a rental of Cargo or Bruce, yes. If it's Quintana, yes. Anyone else? Probably not.

It seems no matter how hard Hahn tries he can't win for losing.

Well, the Sox haven't won anything under Hahn, so the phrase kinda doesn't apply here.

WhiteSox5187
07-07-2016, 11:20 AM
I said earlier that this 12 game stretch right before the All Star Break is perhaps the most critical stretch for the Sox this season, and they have been fairly impressive (and I hope to hell I'm not jinxing them by posting now because I have been quiet for most of this run).

While I think the Sox are clearly more in the "contending" side of things, I think one of the big problems they have as the approach the deadline is they don't have many parts they can sell. As has been noted here before, they pretty much have to hang-on and hope that Jackson and Morneau can contribute when they get back. For the bullpen, SouthSideSox had an interesting article suggesting that maybe it would make sense for the Sox to call up Fulmer and see if he can't be a 6th or 7th inning guy.

Frater Perdurabo
07-07-2016, 12:00 PM
For the bullpen, SouthSideSox had an interesting article suggesting that maybe it would make sense for the Sox to call up Fulmer and see if he can't be a 6th or 7th inning guy.

I read that, too. Fullmer likely doesn't need a changeup if he's just facing hitters once.

The article also said Burdi's first outing at AA wasn't great, but could have been just an aberration.

I know it's risky to count on rookies, especially in a pennant race, but both Fullmer and Burdi have two great pitches and given that no AL Central rival has any kind of decent scouting report on them, they could prove useful in the bullpen down the stretch without harming their respective futures (Fullmer in the rotation, Burdi as a closer or in the rotation.)

Save McCuddy's
07-07-2016, 12:11 PM
Agreed. 100%. Fullmer has turned the corner a bit command-wise recently. For a max effort guy who has a lot of college mileage to go with a half season of minor league starts, a reduced work load in a relief role and a chance to get a taste of pitching in the big leagues would be positive for his future development.

Meanwhile, the Sox would benefit by adding a well above average talent with wipe out stuff to a role normally occupied by a lesser pitcher. Win win.

#1swisher
07-07-2016, 09:47 PM
Dan Hayes Verified account ‏@CSNHayes (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) 44m44 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/751219945099452416)

Justin Morneau is 1-for-3 with a triple and a run scored tonight at Triple-A Charlotte.

Mohoney
07-07-2016, 11:46 PM
I'm not sure what people think the Sox have that will be of interest to teams like Colorado and Cincy. They're not moving Anderson. Fullmer has been meh.

Fulmer hasn't ben "meh" lately. He's limited opponents to a .208/.311/.245 slash in his last 5 starts, with 14 walks and 36 strikeouts. With a BABIP against of .314 in this span, it isn't luck, either. He's dominating the opposition.

I can't help but think that at least one losing GM will be more interested in acquiring assets than keeping a high-priced player on a failing team. Carson Fulmer would still be a good acquisition in any trade package despite struggling out of the gate this season. I would think that Spencer Adams and Nick Burdi would interest teams as well.

Foulke You
07-08-2016, 04:31 PM
Dan Hayes Verified account ‏@CSNHayes (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) 44m44 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/751219945099452416)

Justin Morneau is 1-for-3 with a triple and a run scored tonight at Triple-A Charlotte.
Here is a video link of the Morneau triple. He blasted it off a lefty:

http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?sid=milb&content_id=907111583

gobears1987
07-08-2016, 06:58 PM
Chuck GarfienVerified account
‏@ChuckGarfien
AJ Pierzynski pointed out he has more former White Sox teammates on the Braves than the White Sox. Sale and Quintana are only ones left.

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Which tells you with a turnover of 23 out of 25 players, (and those 2 being ones you would want to build with) Hahn and Robin have still failed to provide different results.

Domeshot17
07-08-2016, 07:08 PM
Chuck GarfienVerified account
‏@ChuckGarfien
AJ Pierzynski pointed out he has more former White Sox teammates on the Braves than the White Sox. Sale and Quintana are only ones left.

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Which tells you with a turnover of 23 out of 25 players, (and those 2 being ones you would want to build with) Hahn and Robin have still failed to provide different results.

To be fair, Hahn took over a dumpster fire and had to rebuild the whole thing, with what he has been doing with the farm, Hahn has been fine. Also, we are pacing 84 wins right now, which would be an 8 game improvement on last year.

Andrew C White
07-08-2016, 07:09 PM
Chuck GarfienVerified account
‏@ChuckGarfien
AJ Pierzynski pointed out he has more former White Sox teammates on the Braves than the White Sox. Sale and Quintana are only ones left.

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Which tells you with a turnover of 23 out of 25 players, (and those 2 being ones you would want to build with) Hahn and Robin have still failed to provide different results.

Or... you could see that Atlanta is 29-57 and in last place in their division 21.5 games out while the White Sox are 44-41 and only 7 games out while they were 38-44 and in last place on July 8 last year.

gobears1987
07-08-2016, 07:27 PM
Or... you could see that Atlanta is 29-57 and in last place in their division 21.5 games out while the White Sox are 44-41 and only 7 games out while they were 38-44 and in last place on July 8 last year.

Atlanta is basically tanking this season.

XplodingScorbord
07-08-2016, 07:44 PM
Sanchez is starting at 2B tonight. Was someone sent down?

Andrew C White
07-08-2016, 08:01 PM
Sanchez is starting at 2B tonight. Was someone sent down?

Sanchez was recalled on the 1st when Davidson got hurt.

XplodingScorbord
07-08-2016, 08:17 PM
Sanchez was recalled on the 1st when Davidson got hurt.

Has he played since being recalled? Maybe I've been high for ten days?

Andrew C White
07-08-2016, 08:27 PM
Has he played since being recalled? Maybe I've been high for ten days?

Not that I had noticed but looks like he had an at-bat on 7/5.

DrCrawdad
07-09-2016, 10:44 AM
Rodon goes on DL Kahnle recalled

ricker182
07-09-2016, 11:23 AM
Rodon goes on DL Kahnle recalled

Sammy Sosa, Corey Crawford level injury.
Kinda funny kinda not.
Fragile players are fragile.

DrCrawdad
07-09-2016, 11:27 AM
Sammy Sosa, Corey Crawford level injury.
Kinda funny kinda not.
Fragile players are fragile.

I don't understand.

Noneck
07-09-2016, 12:18 PM
Rodon goes on DL Kahnle recalled

Do you know his injury?

Noneck
07-09-2016, 12:51 PM
Wrist injury

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/white-sox-lose-carlos-rodon-to-wrist-injury-in-freak-dugout-accident/

Lip Man 1
07-09-2016, 12:54 PM
Slipped Friday night coming out of the dugout for the anthem. What can you do?

Lip

voodoochile
07-09-2016, 01:06 PM
Hurts himself on the 8th but they set the date for the DL to the 6th. Didn't even know that was allowed.

gobears1987
07-09-2016, 01:13 PM
Hurts himself on the 8th but they set the date for the DL to the 6th. Didn't even know that was allowed.

It can be retroactive to last appearance

cards press box
07-09-2016, 01:24 PM
Rodon can't come back any earlier than 7/20. Sox will need someone to make at least one spot start, likely at Seattle. I suspect that the spot starter will be Carson Fulmer.

#1swisher
07-09-2016, 01:35 PM
"I slipped on to the field and tried to catch myself," Rodon said. "I'm not going to lie, I was a little embarrassed. I was like, 'I hope no one saw that.' I got out there and was like just laughing when the anthem was going on. I came back in and sat down and I was like, 'All right, this kind of hurts a little bit.'


"It didn't swell. We had an X-ray and the doctor classified it as a sprain, and that's about it."
http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/188876154/carlos-rodon-wrist-injury-on-disabled-list/

#1swisher
07-09-2016, 01:38 PM
Tommy Kahnle (http://m.mlb.com/player/592454/tommy-kahnle) recalled from Triple-A Charlotte prior to Saturday's game.

It's uncertain who would take Rodon's spot start or two, with Scott Carroll (http://m.mlb.com/player/453222/scott-carroll), Tyler Danish (http://m.mlb.com/player/641501/tyler-danish) and Anthony Ranaudo (http://m.mlb.com/player/519168/anthony-ranaudo) standing as 40-man options for a roster currently sitting at 40.

Lip Man 1
07-09-2016, 02:21 PM
Tommy Kahnle (http://m.mlb.com/player/592454/tommy-kahnle) recalled from Triple-A Charlotte prior to Saturday's game.

It's uncertain who would take Rodon's spot start or two, with Scott Carroll (http://m.mlb.com/player/453222/scott-carroll), Tyler Danish (http://m.mlb.com/player/641501/tyler-danish) and Anthony Ranaudo (http://m.mlb.com/player/519168/anthony-ranaudo) standing as 40-man options for a roster currently sitting at 40.

More flotsam and jetsam out of the Sox minor league system. Sad state of affairs.

Lip

voodoochile
07-09-2016, 02:22 PM
It can be retroactive to last appearance

I know that but in theory he would have injured himself while playing in that game. In this case it happened 2 days after that appearance and everyone knows it. Heck the Sox even announced it. Just seems odd...

gobears1987
07-09-2016, 02:44 PM
I know that but in theory he would have injured himself while playing in that game. In this case it happened 2 days after that appearance and everyone knows it. Heck the Sox even announced it. Just seems odd...

It's not unheard of. Starting pitchers who have tweaked something during a side-session can be put on the DL retroactive to the date of their last start without issue.

Now if he were a position player and listed as "available" to come off of the bench, he probably isn't eligible for this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there.

voodoochile
07-09-2016, 02:56 PM
It's not unheard of. Starting pitchers who have tweaked something during a side-session can be put on the DL retroactive to the date of their last start without issue.

Now if he were a position player and listed as "available" to come off of the bench, he probably isn't eligible for this. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong there.

Technically speaking all starters are available as relievers every game. Teams just only use them in an emergency.

gobears1987
07-09-2016, 03:40 PM
Technically speaking all starters are available as relievers every game. Teams just only use them in an emergency.

They are technically available, but typically aren't written into the line-up card under the list of available pitchers.

cards press box
07-09-2016, 04:19 PM
Tommy Kahnle (http://m.mlb.com/player/592454/tommy-kahnle) recalled from Triple-A Charlotte prior to Saturday's game.

It's uncertain who would take Rodon's spot start or two, with Scott Carroll (http://m.mlb.com/player/453222/scott-carroll), Tyler Danish (http://m.mlb.com/player/641501/tyler-danish) and Anthony Ranaudo (http://m.mlb.com/player/519168/anthony-ranaudo) standing as 40-man options for a roster currently sitting at 40.

More flotsam and jetsam out of the Sox minor league system. Sad state of affairs.

Lip

I just don't see any of those guys making the spot start in Seattle. A more likely series of moves, I think, would be: (a) the Sox moving Putnam to the 60 day DL, (b) the Sox putting Carson Fulmer on the 40 man roster and (c) the Sox recalling Fulmer for that spot start against Seattle and maybe another one, depending on how long it takes Rondon to come back.

voodoochile
07-09-2016, 04:37 PM
They are technically available, but typically aren't written into the line-up card under the list of available pitchers.

Does that mean they can't be used?

gobears1987
07-09-2016, 04:40 PM
Does that mean they can't be used?

That is something I don't know.

voodoochile
07-09-2016, 05:47 PM
That is something I don't know.

Teams have been forced to go to a starter in later innings of very long ballgames before. Heck, I remember when Seaver got two wins on the same day when the Sox had a postponed game back in 84. The game had to be continued the next time that team returned to town and the Sox just sent Seaver out there to start the 19th inning or whatever it was. One inning later the game was over and Seaver had a W. He then sat for the 30 minutes between games and came out to start the regularly scheduled game and ended up getting the W.

Now I have no idea if Seaver was on the lineup card the night the majority of the postponed game was played. Buehrle got a save in the WS too.

I don't know the answer to that question or not, but it has happened before so either teams don't have to list the starters but can still use them or in some cases a team lists a starter as the emergency reliever just to be safe.

Andrew C White
07-09-2016, 05:54 PM
Does that mean they can't be used?

Sure they can. Look at any extra inning game that goes long. Cleveland had one the other day where one of their starters went five in extra innings. They're on the 25 man roster, they can play.

Andrew C White
07-09-2016, 06:19 PM
Teams have been forced to go to a starter in later innings of very long ballgames before. Heck, I remember when Seaver got two wins on the same day when the Sox had a postponed game back in 84. The game had to be continued the next time that team returned to town and the Sox just sent Seaver out there to start the 19th inning or whatever it was. One inning later the game was over and Seaver had a W. He then sat for the 30 minutes between games and came out to start the regularly scheduled game and ended up getting the W.

Now I have no idea if Seaver was on the lineup card the night the majority of the postponed game was played. Buehrle got a save in the WS too.

I don't know the answer to that question or not, but it has happened before so either teams don't have to list the starters but can still use them or in some cases a team lists a starter as the emergency reliever just to be safe.

Exactly. And in the old days you would sometimes see them used as pinch runners and pinch hitters even.

Lip Man 1
07-09-2016, 06:32 PM
Teams have been forced to go to a starter in later innings of very long ballgames before. Heck, I remember when Seaver got two wins on the same day when the Sox had a postponed game back in 84. The game had to be continued the next time that team returned to town and the Sox just sent Seaver out there to start the 19th inning or whatever it was. One inning later the game was over and Seaver had a W. He then sat for the 30 minutes between games and came out to start the regularly scheduled game and ended up getting the W.

Now I have no idea if Seaver was on the lineup card the night the majority of the postponed game was played. Buehrle got a save in the WS too.

I don't know the answer to that question or not, but it has happened before so either teams don't have to list the starters but can still use them or in some cases a team lists a starter as the emergency reliever just to be safe.

Voodoo:

This is the game(s) you are remembering:

May 9, 1984 - Harold Baines ended the longest game, inning-wise, in American League history when he blasted a home run in the 25th inning to give the Sox a 7-6 win over Milwaukee. The 8:06 length of the game set a Major League record. Tom Seaver got the win in relief in the marathon contest which started on May 8 and was suspended, then came back and won the regularly scheduled game later that same evening when the Sox won 5-4. For the night Seaver threw a little over nine innings allowing only four hits.
Lip

voodoochile
07-09-2016, 06:33 PM
Voodoo:

This is the game(s) you are remembering:

May 9, 1984 - Harold Baines ended the longest game, inning-wise, in American League history when he blasted a home run in the 25th inning to give the Sox a 7-6 win over Milwaukee. The 8:06 length of the game set a Major League record. Tom Seaver got the win in relief in the marathon contest which started on May 8 and was suspended, then came back and won the regularly scheduled game later that same evening when the Sox won 5-4. For the night Seaver threw a little over nine innings allowing only four hits.
Lip

THANKS, LIP! Awesome info as usual. Appreciate it.

Edit: On a side note can you even imagine teams having a 25 inning game today? Not too many of them carry multi-inning relievers. Heck even if the starter went 9 most teams would be gone dry of relievers by the 18th inning max and only then if every single one was available to pitch.

Andrew C White
07-09-2016, 07:14 PM
THANKS, LIP! Awesome info as usual. Appreciate it.

Edit: On a side note can you even imagine teams having a 25 inning game today? Not too many of them carry multi-inning relievers. Heck even if the starter went 9 most teams would be gone dry of relievers by the 18th inning max and only then if every single one was available to pitch.

Here's the game I was talking about. Cleveland-Toronto July 1, 19 innings, Bauer went 5 to close the game for Cleveland. He had been scheduled to pitch the next day. Infielder Darwin Barney was pitching for Toronto.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TOR/TOR201607010.shtml

Mohoney
07-09-2016, 07:45 PM
Rodon can't come back any earlier than 7/20. Sox will need someone to make at least one spot start, likely at Seattle. I suspect that the spot starter will be Carson Fulmer.

Ugh. I hope not. Just let Danish do it (or someone else who is already on the 40-man roster). Let Fulmer continue to develop his secondary pitches and command in Birmingham, and then do the same in Charlotte next year.

TDog
07-09-2016, 09:25 PM
Voodoo:

This is the game(s) you are remembering:

May 9, 1984- Harold Baines ended the longest game, inning-wise, in American League history when he blasted a home run in the 25th inning to give the Sox a 7-6 win over Milwaukee. The 8:06 length of the game set a Major League record. Tom Seaver got the win in relief in the marathon contest which started on May 8 and was suspended, then came back and won the regularly scheduled game later that same evening when the Sox won 5-4. For the night Seaver threw a little over nine innings allowing only four hits.
Lip

It used to be fairly common for the scheduled starting pitcher of a regularly scheduled game to come in when a suspended game resumed. On May 28, 1973, Wilbur Wood pitched the last five innings of a suspended game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA197305260.shtml), giving up an unearned run his fifth inning of relief (an error by Luis Alvarado set up a go-ahead single by Walt "No Neck" Williams, who earlier in the game had replaced Oscar Gamble as the Indians DH). However, Dick Allen won the game in the bottom of the 17th with a home run after the Sox re-tied it. The home run was hit off of Ed Farmer.

Milt Wilcox had been scheduled to start the regularly scheduled game and joined the game when it resumed in the 13th, but after he was knocked out in the 17th, the Indians went with Dick Tidrow in the regular game.

Tidrow lost to Wilbur Wood, who pitched a 4-hit, 4-0 complete game shutout (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA197305280.shtml) in the regular game after giving up just 2 hits and an unearned run in the completion of the suspended game. Walt Williams, whose likeness I use for my computer wallpaper, got two of the six hits against him over his 14 innings of work.

To the best of my knowledge, no one kept track of how many pitches Wilbur Wood three that night. But most Sox fans remember him losing both games of a doubleheader on July 20, 1973 (getting knocked out in the first in Yankee Stadium and coming back to start and lose the second game of a twi-night doubleheader in place of scheduled starter Bart Johnson.

DumpJerry
07-10-2016, 12:23 AM
:burly
A starter coming out of the Bullpen? Never happens.....

#1swisher
07-10-2016, 10:22 AM
David Robertson
high strain in his left leg near the buttocks area.
Soreness began for Robertson after he pitched Wednesday night against the Yankees and continued on into Thursday's off-day. Ventura was apprised of the situation Friday,

XplodingScorbord
07-14-2016, 03:25 PM
Dan Hayes @CSNHayes
(https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) have outrighted Scott Carroll off the 40-man to Triple-A Charlotte. The 40-man is at 39.

Chez
07-14-2016, 03:35 PM
The Sox still have another move to make before Friday -- Chris Beck was sent down after Sunday's game.

fungo bat
07-14-2016, 04:14 PM
According to Ken Rosenthal: #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash), unsure of Austin Jackson’s prognosis, are checking into possible trades for CFer. Jackson had knee surgery on June 10.


Jackson was expected to be out a minimum of 6 weeks. We are currently at the 5-week interval.



Who in the world would make a trade at this time for Austin Jackson, still recovering from surgery?

jcw218
07-14-2016, 04:23 PM
According to Ken Rosenthal: #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash), unsure of Austin Jackson’s prognosis, are checking into possible trades for CFer. Jackson had knee surgery on June 10.


Jackson was expected to be out a minimum of 6 weeks. We are currently at the 5-week interval.



Who in the world would make a trade at this time for Austin Jackson, still recovering from surgery?

I think the Sox are looking at what CFers are or might be available to replace Austin Jackson, and not to trade Jackson.

cards press box
07-14-2016, 06:00 PM
Dan Hayes @CSNHayes
(https://twitter.com/CSNHayes)#WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) have outrighted Scott Carroll off the 40-man to Triple-A Charlotte. The 40-man is at 39.

The Sox still have another move to make before Friday -- Chris Beck was sent down after Sunday's game.

The Sox opening up a spot on the 40 man roster leads me to suspect that Carson Fulmer will be called up to start on Sunday against the L.A. Angels.

Lip Man 1
07-14-2016, 06:51 PM
The Sox opening up a spot on the 40 man roster leads me to suspect that Carson Fulmer will be called up to start on Sunday against the L.A. Angels.

I'm reading Jacob Turner...we'll see.

Lip

kittle42
07-15-2016, 01:16 PM
Morneau activated.

Coats to AAA.

FielderJones
07-15-2016, 01:21 PM
Morneau activated.

Coats to AAA.

And Fulmer up.

https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/753997725969084417

Chez
07-15-2016, 01:32 PM
And Fulmer up.

https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/753997725969084417


If Fulmer is pitching out of the bullpen, the Sox still need a starter for Sunday's game.

Noneck
07-15-2016, 01:54 PM
If Fulmer is pitching out of the bullpen, the Sox still need a starter for Sunday's game.

I dont get it. Maybe they mean after sunday hes in the pen.

LoveYourSuit
07-15-2016, 02:18 PM
Morneau activated.

Coats to AAA.

Garcia has survived once again.

Must be nice being Hahn's first acquisition, roster spot for life.

If Garcia is not good enough to hit and DH every day then there is absolutely Zero use for him. Zero. At least use the spot for someone that can put on a glove without falling on his face or someone that can run the bases late in the game.

kobo
07-15-2016, 02:24 PM
Garcia has survived once again.

Must be nice being Hahn's first acquisition, roster spot for life.

If Garcia is not good enough to hit and DH every day then there is absolutely Zero use for him. Zero. At least use the spot for someone that can put on a glove without falling on his face or someone that can run the bases late in the game.
They probably want to make sure Morneau is healthy and can produce better than Garcia before deciding what to do with Garcia.

MinnieMinoso
07-15-2016, 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Chez http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3250807#post3250807)
If Fulmer is pitching out of the bullpen, the Sox still need a starter for Sunday's game.

It makes no sense to me that Fulmer is all stretched out to be a starter and has really hit his stride in his last few starts, and now we're putting him in the bullpen.

Noneck
07-15-2016, 02:28 PM
Garcia has survived once again.

Must be nice being Hahn's first acquisition, roster spot for life.

If Garcia is not good enough to hit and DH every day then there is absolutely Zero use for him. Zero. At least use the spot for someone that can put on a glove without falling on his face or someone that can run the bases late in the game.


You are right but maybe they think the only way he gains worth is by playing him. I want the Sox to bury him in the minors now, let him know its now or never to get better.

Chez
07-15-2016, 02:41 PM
I dont get it. Maybe they mean after sunday hes in the pen.


That would make sense, but then they are an arm short in the bullpen for 3+ consecutive starts (including starts made by Gonzalez, Shields, Fulmer etc.). Maybe since everyone has gotten 4 days off, they feel they can have a short bullpen for a few days. Plus, if the plan was to have him start on Sunday, then they could have waited until Sunday to activate him and used the slot for a reliever/placeholder for Friday and Saturday. The more I think about it, the less I believe he is starting on Sunday. Has anyone heard whether Robertson is good to go tonight?

Mohoney
07-15-2016, 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Chez http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3250807#post3250807)
If Fulmer is pitching out of the bullpen, the Sox still need a starter for Sunday's game.

It makes no sense to me that Fulmer is all stretched out to be a starter and has really hit his stride in his last few starts, and now we're putting him in the bullpen.


They were talking about using an approach like this a few weeks ago as a way to limit the total innings put on Fulmer's arm this year.

TheVulture
07-15-2016, 05:47 PM
If Fulmer is pitching out of the bullpen, the Sox still need a starter for Sunday's game.

Something wrong with Sale and Quintana?

TomBradley72
07-15-2016, 06:12 PM
Something wrong with Sale and Quintana?

Yeah- with 4 days off after Tuesday's ASG- why wouldn't one of them be available?

#1swisher
07-15-2016, 07:06 PM
Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox) 37m37 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/754080445348794368)

More player updates:
Putnam is scheduled to play catch tomorrow.
Matt Davidson is at the ballpark today; earliest return is September.

[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/754093761295069184"] (https://twitter.com/whitesox) Carlos Rodon is scheduled to play catch tomorrow.

cards press box
07-16-2016, 08:57 PM
Chuck Garfien just said that the Sox are calling up Jacob Turner to start against the Angels tomorrow. I wonder what the corresponding move will be.

delben91
07-16-2016, 09:15 PM
Chuck Garfien just said that the Sox are calling up Jacob Turner to start against the Angels tomorrow. I wonder what the corresponding move will be.

I'd go with Ynoa going down now that Fulmer is up, making 8 currently in the bullpen.

thomas35forever
07-16-2016, 11:38 PM
Carlos Sanchez was optioned to AAA after tonight's game. A corresponding move will be made before tomorrow's game.

jcw218
07-17-2016, 11:50 AM
Carlos Sanchez has been optioned to Charlotte. The Sox still need to clear room on th 40 man roster for Turner. My guess is that one of the catchers goes.

voodoochile
07-17-2016, 12:21 PM
Carlos Sanchez has been optioned to Charlotte. The Sox still need to clear room on th 40 man roster for Turner. My guess is that one of the catchers goes.

Not sure they've got the catching depth to be cutting any of them from the 40-man do they?

Tragg
07-17-2016, 12:42 PM
Looking at the 40 man, it's not hard to find a few candidates.
What about Purke? He was terrible in AA last year with Nats, bad in AAA with Charlotte, yet somehow makes the Sox 25 man and is, predictably, terrible.

Lip Man 1
07-17-2016, 01:31 PM
Read Putnam's quotes today on how he pitched and how he felt and basically it was along the lines of he didn't feel good. Was hoping it was just because he hadn't thrown off a mound for awhile.

Lip

DrCrawdad
07-17-2016, 01:36 PM
Looking at the 40 man, it's not hard to find a few candidates.
What about Purke? He was terrible in AA last year with Nats, bad in AAA with Charlotte, yet somehow makes the Sox 25 man and is, predictably, terrible.

IIRC Purke was doing very well in AAA before the Sox called him up.

Andrew C White
07-17-2016, 03:21 PM
Carlos Sanchez has been optioned to Charlotte. The Sox still need to clear room on th 40 man roster for Turner. My guess is that one of the catchers goes.

Turner is already on the 40 man.

No, I'm wrong. They moved Davidson to the 60-day DL to clear room on the 40 man.

#1swisher
07-19-2016, 08:57 PM
Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan (https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan) 43m43 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/755556163639349249)

Zach Putnam threw 25-30 pitches off mound, ramped it up, 'Felt marginally better than last time.' Key is how elbow feels tomorrow, he said.

Carlos Rodon (left wrist) encouraged after playing catch. 'It's a good sign, throwing and not hurting.' Will throw again Thurs in Chicago.
Next step in recovery is to lengthen out; will throw from 90 feet in a few days.

Foulke You
07-20-2016, 02:52 PM
It's been announced that Jacob Turner is starting on Friday against the Tigers. :angry: Hey, who needs to win a game against a division opponent? Not us apparently. I'm even more upset because I have tickets to that game. Can't wait to see the Tigers put 5 runs on the board in the first 3 innings. I don't understand why they are so averse to spot starting Fulmer? It would just be a one time thing.

kittle42
07-20-2016, 03:14 PM
It's been announced that Jacob Turner is starting on Friday against the Tigers. :angry: Hey, who needs to win a game against a division opponent? Not us apparently. I'm even more upset because I have tickets to that game. Can't wait to see the Tigers put 5 runs on the board in the first 3 innings. I don't understand why they are so averse to spot starting Fulmer? It would just be a one time thing.

Because they have decided to keep Fulmer in the pen this season. Maybe it's a development thing. Maybe it's an innings limit thing. It's probably both. For as much complaining as many of us do about the Sox here, they have done this with Buehrle and Sale in the past, and it's worked, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt (for once). Turner should probably be passed over for some other warm body, but if they have a plan for Fulmer, I have no problem with them sticking to it.

gobears1987
07-20-2016, 05:45 PM
My poor brother has tickets for Friday's game. They should honestly issue refunds for sending out Turner.

eriqjaffe
07-20-2016, 05:47 PM
My poor brother has tickets for Friday's game. They should honestly issue refunds for sending out Turner.I'm going on Saturday - glad I get to see Sale, even if it's going to be a million degrees.

eriqjaffe
07-20-2016, 05:48 PM
Also, Scott Carroll has been traded to Texas for cash considerations.

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-trade-scott-carroll-rangers-cash-considerations

#1swisher
07-20-2016, 06:04 PM
Charlotte Knights ‏@KnightsBaseball (https://twitter.com/KnightsBaseball) 51m51 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/KnightsBaseball/status/755873063028166656)

ROSTER MOVE: RHP Scott Carroll traded to @Rangers (https://twitter.com/Rangers). We wish Scott good luck with his new organization!

Lip Man 1
07-20-2016, 07:10 PM
Charlotte Knights ‏@KnightsBaseball (https://twitter.com/KnightsBaseball)51m51 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/KnightsBaseball/status/755873063028166656)

ROSTER MOVE: RHP Scott Carroll traded to @Rangers (https://twitter.com/Rangers). We wish Scott good luck with his new organization!

Thank God.

Lip

#1swisher
07-21-2016, 06:41 PM
OF Austin Jackson (knee) still several weeks away, will begin non-impact drills soon but still unclear when, or if, he'll come back this season.

RHP Zach Putnam (elbow) likely to schedule surgery to remove bone spurs.

Avila has more damage to the hammy. At least 4 weeks away.

Carlos Rodon will throw a bullpen session tomorrow to determine if he will need a rehab start in Charlotte. If he does, that most likely means Turner could see an additional start after Friday.

thomas35forever
07-21-2016, 06:49 PM
It's been announced that Jacob Turner is starting on Friday against the Tigers. :angry: Hey, who needs to win a game against a division opponent? Not us apparently. I'm even more upset because I have tickets to that game. Can't wait to see the Tigers put 5 runs on the board in the first 3 innings. I don't understand why they are so averse to spot starting Fulmer? It would just be a one time thing.

My poor brother has tickets for Friday's game. They should honestly issue refunds for sending out Turner.
I'm only interested in going tomorrow because it's Christmas in July Night, but even I was crestfallen when I read Foulke's post, even more so when I learned the Tigers are pitching Fulmer. Oh well. At least I have postgame fireworks set to Christmas music to look forward to.

shes
07-21-2016, 10:29 PM
I'm only interested in going tomorrow because it's Christmas in July Night, but even I was crestfallen when I read Foulke's post, even more so when I learned the Tigers are pitching Fulmer. Oh well. At least I have postgame fireworks set to Christmas music to look forward to.

Hey, you could see a no-no.

#1swisher
07-23-2016, 09:32 AM
JJ Stankevitz ‏@JJStankevitz (https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz) 10h10 hours ago (https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status/756699201162051584) Chicago, IL (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c)

(https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c) Brett Lawrie's MRI revealed some good news: Robin Ventura says he won't require a DL stint.

#1swisher
07-25-2016, 11:29 AM
Carlos Rodon
will begin his Minor League rehab assignment Monday with Triple-A Charlotte

Austin Jackson
underwent an MRI following his right meniscus surgery and is going to continue non-impact activity before beginning baseball activity.
He will miss several more weeks before returning

#1swisher
07-26-2016, 04:49 PM
Scott Merkin Verified account ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/758010888586719232) Chicago, IL (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A1d9a5370a355ab0c)

Saw Carlos Rodon in the dugout prior to appearance on MLB Network. He said rehab start went well in Louisville last night.

Brett Lawrie available to pinch hit tonight

smac38
07-28-2016, 01:39 PM
Sale reinstated, Ranaudo sent down

thomas35forever
07-28-2016, 01:54 PM
Such bull****. Meanwhile, Turner continues to be part of the 25-man.:angry:

Lip Man 1
07-28-2016, 01:55 PM
Such bull****. Meanwhile, Turner continues to be part of the 25-man.:angry:

Agreed. Wanna bet he's released as soon as the season is over?

Lip

JB98
07-28-2016, 01:58 PM
Such bull****. Meanwhile, Turner continues to be part of the 25-man.:angry:

Ranaudo won't be available to pitch for five days now, so that's the reason he was sent down.

Someone among the Ynoa/Turner/Kahnle trifecta will have to go down when Rodon returns.

The Sox have multiple rostered pitchers who don't really belong in the big leagues at this time.

Mohoney
07-28-2016, 02:06 PM
Agreed. Wanna bet he's released as soon as the season is over?

Lip

Mercifully, Turner is signed for only 2016. They don't have to release him from anything; they simply can elect not to tender him a contract for 2017.

smac38
07-28-2016, 02:07 PM
Such bull****. Meanwhile, Turner continues to be part of the 25-man.:angry:

While I agree 100% that Turner has no business being on a major league roster, he is out of options, which I guess came into play here. Maybe they're trying to keep Ranaudo on a regular schedule? Although with Rodon coming back, I don't know what you'd do with him anyway, unless they trade a starter.

JB98
07-28-2016, 02:39 PM
While I agree 100% that Turner has no business being on a major league roster, he is out of options, which I guess came into play here. Maybe they're trying to keep Ranaudo on a regular schedule? Although with Rodon coming back, I don't know what you'd do with him anyway, unless they trade a starter.

Turner being out of options is definitely a factor. They want to keep him in the organization because someone has to eat innings the rest of the year if they do decide to dismantle this thing.

There are numerous fans on this board and in other places calling for the Sox to rebuild. Teams that are rebuilding have placeholders like Jacob Turner on their roster.

Lip Man 1
07-28-2016, 02:48 PM
Turner being out of options is definitely a factor. They want to keep him in the organization because someone has to eat innings the rest of the year if they do decide to dismantle this thing.

There are numerous fans on this board and in other places calling for the Sox to rebuild. Teams that are rebuilding have placeholders like Jacob Turner on their roster.

If they decide to rebuild they'd be better served bringing up as many kids as they can and let them start getting their feet wet at the ML level, without the pressure of a pennant race for two months.

The Jacob Turner's of the world need not apply under that scenario in my opinion.

And the "pressure" factor is a big key to this. Let the Sox see what they may have going into the off-season.

Lip

Chez
07-28-2016, 02:57 PM
Ranaudo won't be available to pitch for five days now, so that's the reason he was sent down.

Someone among the Ynoa/Turner/Kahnle trifecta will have to go down when Rodon returns.

The Sox have multiple rostered pitchers who don't really belong in the big leagues at this time.



With the injuries to Putnam and Petricka and the regression of Albers, Robin only has three guys in the bullpen he trusts. The rest are mop-up guys -- some of whom are now being used in high leverage situations. Not good.

JB98
07-28-2016, 03:04 PM
If they decide to rebuild they'd be better served bringing up as many kids as they can and let them start getting their feet wet at the ML level, without the pressure of a pennant race for two months.

The Jacob Turner's of the world need not apply under that scenario in my opinion.

And the "pressure" factor is a big key to this. Let the Sox see what they may have going into the off-season.

Lip

I don't disagree with your thoughts in theory, but in practice, name the kids who are ready to be brought up. Fulmer is already here. I guess they could bring back Danish, but he's been really shaky at Charlotte. They could recall Chris Beck, but do we really see him as part of the future? I don't. I see him much like Turner.

Spencer Adams is a good prospect who was just recently promoted to Birmingham. But he's a 20-year-old kid. Not even close to ready.

I hate to say it, but if the "blow it up" philosophy is used, you're gonna see starts by Jacob Turner and Anthony Ranaudo.

I still think they'll hold Sale, but let's say they trade Q and Shields. You're looking at a rotation of Sale, Gonzalez, Rodon, Turner and Ranaudo the rest of the year. That's just how it is.

JB98
07-28-2016, 03:05 PM
With the injuries to Putnam and Petricka and the regression of Albers, Robin only has three guys in the bullpen he trusts. The rest are mop-up guys -- some of whom are now being used in high leverage situations. Not good.

Yeah, the Sox have eight players on the DL. They obviously do not have the depth to sustain this level of attrition.