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Jerry_Manuel
08-24-2002, 08:48 PM
Owners accuse union of 'regressive bargaining' (http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2002/0824/1422352.html)

"We could not have been more disappointed in the proposal we received,'' said Rob Manfred, the owners' chief labor lawyer. "This is raw regressive bargaining.''

Daver
08-24-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Jerry_Manuel
Owners accuse union of 'regressive bargaining' (http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2002/0824/1422352.html)



And so the reasoning for an impasse begins........

PaleHoseGeorge
08-24-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by daver
And so the reasoning for an impasse begins........

Isn't that funny? The union accused the owners of precisely the same thing when Selig removed Beeston.

That's it, folks. They're negotiating through the media. Both sides have officially taken to their trenches and the sniping has begun. A bloody stalemate is about to start.

No chance for avoiding a strike now.

MLB is the dumbest sport in America.

PaleHoseGeorge
08-24-2002, 09:40 PM
This is the part I love best...

The union also moved $5 million toward the owners on the luxury tax, designed to slow spending by high-payroll teams, but Manfred said that was far short of what owners want because it would affect only two teams next year, based on this season's salaries.

Okay, so basically Manfred is calling the union's offer "regressive" not based on MLBPA withdrawing an offer, but not moving enough towards what MLB expects them to offer. This is priceless...

This gives great insight into how the owners think. When they talk about "losing money", they usually mean they didn't make as much money as they expected. It's like advocates of increased government spending railing about budget "cuts" when in fact the spending rates are actually rising--just not as fast as the advocates expect.

These people are nuts. This one is going to be ugly.

Daver
08-24-2002, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge
This is the part I love best...



Okay, so basically Manfred is calling the union's offer "regressive" not based on MLBPA withdrawing an offer, but not moving enough towards what MLB expects them to offer. This is priceless...

This gives great insight into how the owners think. When they talk about "losing money", they usually mean they didn't make as much money as they expected. It's like advocates of increased government spending railing about budget "cuts" when in fact the spending rates are actually rising--just not as fast as the advocates expect.

These people are nuts. This one is going to be ugly.

:tool

The small market teams are suffering and on the verge of bankruptcy,something needs to be done.


And no,we will not open the books to prove it,you have to take my word on it.