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#1swisher
05-27-2015, 03:19 PM
Sox win it in extras.

Christopher Kamka ‏@ckamka (https://twitter.com/ckamka) 7m (https://twitter.com/ckamka/status/603654890964004865)
David Robertson now tied with Samardzija for team lead in #Wins (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Wins?src=hash) with 4

smac38
05-27-2015, 03:29 PM
A win is a win. At least they kept fighting.

Lip Man 1
05-27-2015, 03:32 PM
If any team needed a win after what happened last night it was the White Sox. Well done. That does need to be tempered somewhat though because of yet another unearned run and another base running blunder. Those never seem to end do they?

Lip

harwar
05-27-2015, 03:40 PM
It was great to see the guys keep driving forward and take advantage of a pitcher who didn't have much .. i sure hope that Robertson can get himself squared away .. his fast ball has lost it's late movement .. at any rate, i've changed what i look for going into a series .. i used to say, "just win the series", now i say, "just don't get swept" ..

FielderJones
05-27-2015, 04:00 PM
When the Jays come to town in July, if I'm Robertson and I see Donaldson at the plate with the bases not loaded, I walk him on 4 pitches.

Foulke You
05-27-2015, 04:06 PM
It was definitely a much needed win. I'll give the Sox credit, they keep battling. Samardzija was the big hero today. He that high powered Toronto offense off the board most of the game. It's a shame he couldn't get the W.

Irishsox1
05-27-2015, 04:22 PM
Cleveland won so that means the Sox are still in last place. Robin says last place is "comfy".

Lip Man 1
05-27-2015, 04:24 PM
Cleveland won so that means the Sox are still in last place. Robin says last place is "comfy".

I hope you are being sarcastic and Robin didn't actually say that in some context.

Lip

kittle42
05-27-2015, 04:33 PM
Robin Ventura went through three pitchers in one inning. Robin Ventura pitched Petricka even though he tossed two innings yesterday. He did the same with Duke about a week ago and Duke also imploded.

Robin Ventura is not good at managing baseball games.

Lip Man 1
05-27-2015, 04:34 PM
When the Jays come to town in July, if I'm Robertson and I see Donaldson at the plate with the bases not loaded, I walk him on 4 pitches.

Like was mentioned last week baseball is a funny game. Ramirez came up twice in game situations on consecutive nights last week. What are the odds of that happening? He didn't get it done...twice.

What are the odds that on back to back games Donaldson comes up in a game situation, against the same pitcher? And he delivers...twice.

Baseball just finds a way to find the guys who are slumping (Ramirez) and guys who are red hot (Donaldson). I mean say in the 7th inning if one less Jays batter hits or the Sox can turn a double play at some point that changes the batting order and maybe Donaldson never gets to bat.

That's something Tony LaRussa brought up when I interviewed him and I saw where Donaldson was batting second today which usually isn't a power position.

"This was the first time I had ever tried something like that (i.e. bat Carlton Fisk, a power hitter second in the lineup) and I took it with me to Oakland and St. Louis. I had Dave Henderson hit second in Oakland and I had guys like Brian Jordan and Ray Langford hit second in St. Louis. These were guys who could hit the ball out of the park and drive in runs. The other benefit was that it turned the lineup over and gave at-bats to guys who could win games. How many times have you seen a game end before the third or fourth hitter in the lineup could get that one additional at-bat?"

Lip

Lip Man 1
05-27-2015, 04:36 PM
Robin Ventura went through three pitchers in one inning. Robin Ventura pitched Petricka even though he tossed two innings yesterday. He did the same with Duke about a week ago and Duke also imploded.

Robin Ventura is not good at managing baseball games.

Or Don Cooper when it comes to handling the pitching staff. Maybe both?

Lip

kittle42
05-27-2015, 04:50 PM
Or Don Cooper when it comes to handling the pitching staff. Maybe both?

Oh, don't get me wrong, I would love seeing Cooper go, too.

Andrew C White
05-27-2015, 04:53 PM
Nice to see a win. Nice to see a come from behind win. Nice to see a come from behind after blowing a lead win. Nice to see the end of that turf in Toronto. What a mess that stuff is.

cards press box
05-27-2015, 04:57 PM
A win is a win. At least they kept fighting.

Yeah, they needed a win pretty badly.

:winner

They did keep fighting and that's important. I think Mills Lane would agree.


:millslane

Foulke You
05-27-2015, 05:43 PM
That's something Tony LaRussa brought up when I interviewed him and I saw where Donaldson was batting second today which usually isn't a power position.

"This was the first time I had ever tried something like that (i.e. bat Carlton Fisk, a power hitter second in the lineup) and I took it with me to Oakland and St. Louis. I had Dave Henderson hit second in Oakland and I had guys like Brian Jordan and Ray Langford hit second in St. Louis. These were guys who could hit the ball out of the park and drive in runs. The other benefit was that it turned the lineup over and gave at-bats to guys who could win games. How many times have you seen a game end before the third or fourth hitter in the lineup could get that one additional at-bat?"

Lip
It's interesting you brought up the 2 hole discussion because Jim Margoles of South Side Sox opined that Robin should think about experimenting with his lineup and bat LaRoche 2nd. He cited the fact that Abreu is not getting enough RBI chances because the guys in front of him aren't getting on base enough. LaRoche has one of the best OBPs on the team and it puts a power bat in the 2 hole. The only problem with that lineup is that it doesn't give you the same L/R balance if you still bat Eaton leadoff. Still would be an interesting concept to think about as a way to jump start this offense. Ideally, Melky Cabrera just needs to start hitting the way he always has done in his career. He was the perfect #2 guy when the Sox signed him, it just hasn't worked out that way so far.

Lip Man 1
05-27-2015, 06:56 PM
It's interesting you brought up the 2 hole discussion because Jim Margoles of South Side Sox opined that Robin should think about experimenting with his lineup and bat LaRoche 2nd. He cited the fact that Abreu is not getting enough RBI chances because the guys in front of him aren't getting on base enough. LaRoche has one of the best OBPs on the team and it puts a power bat in the 2 hole. The only problem with that lineup is that it doesn't give you the same L/R balance if you still bat Eaton leadoff. Still would be an interesting concept to think about as a way to jump start this offense. Ideally, Melky Cabrera just needs to start hitting the way he always has done in his career. He was the perfect #2 guy when the Sox signed him, it just hasn't worked out that way so far.

Jim has a very nice site, great minds think alike? LOL :D:

Regarding your comment about L/R/L/R/L/R balance. Personally I could care less about that stuff. Give me the nine best hitters and try to slot them where they can do the most good is my attitude. Major League hitters should be able to hit both left and right handers just as Major League pitchers should be able to get out both left and right handed hitters in my opinion.

Sometimes I think certain managers make that out to be more important than it really is in my opinion.

Lip

all*star quentin
05-27-2015, 07:53 PM
I can't wait for the DH tomorrow in Baltimore.

:gosox:

GABP
05-27-2015, 08:28 PM
Regarding your comment about L/R/L/R/L/R balance. Personally I could care less about that stuff.

So you do care about it?

Hitmen77
05-27-2015, 09:23 PM
Nice to see a win. Nice to see a come from behind win. Nice to see a come from behind after blowing a lead win. Nice to see the end of that turf in Toronto. What a mess that stuff is.

The Blue Jays are hoping to be able to install natural grass at the Rogers Centre for the 2018 season:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/inside-blue-jays-push-natural-grass/

WSox597
05-27-2015, 09:50 PM
Glad to see them win one, and coming from behind to do it.

I didn't see the game, forgot they were on during the day. So, therefore, I need to not watch some more games. LOL

On to Baltimore.

Railsplitter
05-27-2015, 10:09 PM
:bandance:, eh

Lip Man 1
05-27-2015, 10:28 PM
So you do care about it?

No I don't, sorry if that was confusing. Take your best hitters regardless of what side they hit from, slot them where you think they'll do the most good and leave them along (unless they get in a slump or get injured. Not playing certain guys because the pitcher throws a particular way is counter productive in my opinion if your best hitters simply aren't in the lineup.

And if a guy does have problems facing a certain type pitcher he'll never learn how to be successful against them if they are never allowed to face them.

To much 'specialization' in my opinion, just play the damn game.

Lip

Church Turtle
05-27-2015, 11:55 PM
Glad they won. Of course I was working and missed it.

Foulke You
05-28-2015, 11:47 AM
Jim has a very nice site, great minds think alike? LOL :D:

Regarding your comment about L/R/L/R/L/R balance. Personally I could care less about that stuff. Give me the nine best hitters and try to slot them where they can do the most good is my attitude. Major League hitters should be able to hit both left and right handers just as Major League pitchers should be able to get out both left and right handed hitters in my opinion.

Sometimes I think certain managers make that out to be more important than it really is in my opinion.

Lip
I get what you are saying but stacking too many lefties or righties can make you a bit more vulnerable in the late innings to bullpen specialists. The reality is that most hitters do better against an opposite handed pitcher. A nasty sidearm lefty can come in and neutralize 2 lefties in a row where if you had more lineup balance, you'd either force the manager to use up a pitcher for one batter or work the more favorable matchup of the LOOGY facing the right handed batter. It's one of the reasons why Melky on paper was such a good fit in the 2 hole because he is a switch hitter who hit about the same in his career from both sides of the plate. However, this year he has been under .100 batting right handed which is inexplicable.

PorkChopExpress
05-28-2015, 02:12 PM
When the Jays come to town in July, if I'm Robertson and I see Donaldson at the plate with the bases not loaded, I walk him on 4 pitches.

Why waste 3 pitches?:cool: