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#1swisher
05-06-2015, 05:16 PM
Paul Sullivan ‏@PWSullivan (https://twitter.com/PWSullivan) 45m (https://twitter.com/PWSullivan/status/596062848440246272)
[/URL]Robin says Rodon to make first start on Saturday vs Reds

Paul Sullivan @PWSullivan (https://twitter.com/PWSullivan/status/596062848440246272) 21m 21 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/PWSullivan/status/596070562088157184)
Pow-wow during BP between Reinsdorf, Hahn, Robin and Stoney.





http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2015/5/6/8561909/carlos-rodon-set-for-mlb-starting-debut (https://t.co/Iom0TniXYH)

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#1swisher
05-06-2015, 05:47 PM
Colleen Kane ‏@ChiTribKane (https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane) 1h1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/ChiTribKane/status/596065272324292608)

Carlos Rodon will make his first major-league start on Saturday. Noesi on Friday, Danks on Sunday.

anewman35
05-06-2015, 06:02 PM
Worth pointing out that this sets up nicely for Rodon to start instead of Danks or Noesi the next time through the rotation, if the Sox chose to go that direction...

cards press box
05-06-2015, 06:12 PM
Worth pointing out that this sets up nicely for Rodon to start instead of Danks or Noesi the next time through the rotation, if the Sox chose to go that direction...

Hard to imagine the Sox not going in that direction. Once they do, the question will be when does Erik Johnson come up from AAA to replace whomever of Danks and Noesi that Rodon does not replace. Based upon what I have read, the Sox want to build up Johnson's strength. Importantly, Johnson is throwing the ball the way he did in 2013. That's really good news.

JohnTucker0814
05-06-2015, 06:25 PM
Hard to imagine the Sox not going in that direction. Once they do, the question will be when does Erik Johnson come up from AAA to replace whomever of Danks and Noesi that Rodon does not replace. Based upon what I have read, the Sox want to build up Johnson's strength. Importantly, Johnson is throwing the ball the way he did in 2013. That's really good news.

That would be nice. I'd say 25 starts at an average of 6 IP per start, that should be just about right, 150 IP total on the year. Maybe try to keep him around 130 IP?

Mohoney
05-07-2015, 10:34 PM
After Rodon makes his start, he won't be a relief option for at least four days, right? Why not option him back down and bring a bullpen arm up for those four days?

soxfanreggie
05-07-2015, 11:29 PM
Hard to imagine the Sox not going in that direction. Once they do, the question will be when does Erik Johnson come up from AAA to replace whomever of Danks and Noesi that Rodon does not replace. Based upon what I have read, the Sox want to build up Johnson's strength. Importantly, Johnson is throwing the ball the way he did in 2013. That's really good news.

My #1 is whatever we have to do to get Danks out of the rotation. He has been a $65 million flop, and his contract has been an albatross around our neck.

ricker182
05-08-2015, 12:32 AM
My #1 is whatever we have to do to get Danks out of the rotation. He has been a $65 million flop, and his contract has been an albatross around our neck.

I think Noesi needs to be the first to go.

No one is going to take Danks and his contract. We're eating that money regardless, but he's still serviceable.

His injury has really put a damper on his career which is disappointing.

He is still an okay #5 starter regardless of what he is getting paid.

kittle42
05-08-2015, 01:14 AM
Hector Noesi and John Danks are not major league caliber SP on any team not based in Philadelphia.

Falstaff
05-08-2015, 04:01 AM
Yes, agreed. I told Coop to have Rodon mix in some off speed junque into the routing, almost like a *** in addition to that change up he been verkinon. Anyway, if Rodon can use 2015 as a tune up for great run as Sox phenom, I am all for it. Also NL not so much a breaking balls league, so to keep hitters off balance got to mix up.

soxfanreggie
05-08-2015, 06:59 AM
That would be nice. I'd say 25 starts at an average of 6 IP per start, that should be just about right, 150 IP total on the year. Maybe try to keep him around 130 IP?

Preparing to be a starter is also a lot different mentally than being a reliever. You know when you're coming to the park that day and getting the ball. Carroll knows he likely isn't going to throw unless we have situations where we need a guy who can give us 2-3 innings at minimum.

If Rodon does come up, you have to tell Danks/Noesi that they will be our long-inning relief guys or getting sent down/released to bring someone else up that can be a guy who can throw an inning or two every couple of days with the potential to need to go three every once in a while if Carroll isn't around.

Golden Sox
05-08-2015, 07:58 AM
Rodons start Saturday night is really a big game for the White Sox. There's no way the White Sox will get into the 2015 Playoffs with Danks and Noesi in their starting rotation. Somebody posted that Erik Johnson is doing well this year. If both Rodon and Johnson can step into the rotation and do well this year, this could turn out to be a fun season.

WhiteSox5187
05-08-2015, 09:05 AM
Hector Noesi and John Danks are not major league caliber SP on any team not based in Philadelphia.

Danks and Noesi for Hammels?

shes
05-08-2015, 12:49 PM
Rodons start Saturday night is really a big game for the White Sox. There's no way the White Sox will get into the 2015 Playoffs with Danks and Noesi in their starting rotation. Somebody posted that Erik Johnson is doing well this year. If both Rodon and Johnson can step into the rotation and do well this year, this could turn out to be a fun season.

And they don't even need to be lights out, just better than Noesi and Danks, to give the team a massive boost. If they're high 3/low 4 ERA guys that consistently go 6 innings or so, it'll make a world of difference.

Chez
05-08-2015, 01:02 PM
Danks and Noesi for Hammels?


Only if the Phillies sweeten the pot by throwing in Jordan Danks.

cards press box
05-08-2015, 04:06 PM
Rodons start Saturday night is really a big game for the White Sox. There's no way the White Sox will get into the 2015 Playoffs with Danks and Noesi in their starting rotation. Somebody posted that Erik Johnson is doing well this year. If both Rodon and Johnson can step into the rotation and do well this year, this could turn out to be a fun season.

Johnson is 3-2 with a 3.74 ERA. More importantly, he is averaging 3.3 walks and 9.1 K's per nine innings. Per this article (http://www.southsidesox.com/2015/5/4/8543127/this-week-in-white-sox-minor-league-baseball), Johnson's velocity is back to 2013 levels and he just needs to build up his arm strength due to an abdominal strain he suffered in spring training.

I am pulling for Rodon and Johnson to join the Sox starting rotation soon.

#1swisher
05-08-2015, 07:49 PM
Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/596838498373660672)

#Reds (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Reds?src=hash) will start Johnny Cueto in Game 1 and Jason Marquis in Game 2. #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) with Hector Noesi and then Carlos Rodon.'
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEhlQcdUMAACn9K.jpg

DSpivack
05-08-2015, 10:16 PM
Chris Beck will be 26th man tomorrow. FutureSox scouted his start a few days ago:

https://twitter.com/FutureSox/status/596875495116918784

anewman35
05-09-2015, 09:18 AM
After Rodon makes his start, he won't be a relief option for at least four days, right? Why not option him back down and bring a bullpen arm up for those four days?

They're calling up Chris Beck for the game as the 26th man, so somebody has to go down after the game anyway, so it would seem to make some sense to keep Beck and option down Rodon for a few days, but I don't know if they will because they might think it sends the wrong message or doesn't look right or something.

Golden Sox
05-09-2015, 11:00 AM
I heard on the radio today that Rodon is going back to the bullpen after this start. If Rodon pitches well tonight and if he doesn't replace Danks/Noesi in the rotation, Ventura should not only be fired, he should get a swift kick in his rear end as he's going out the door.

FielderJones
05-09-2015, 01:58 PM
If Rodon pitches well tonight and if he doesn't replace Danks/Noesi in the rotation, Ventura should not only be fired, he should get a swift kick in his rear end as he's going out the door.

What about Cooper?

MtGrnwdSoxFan
05-09-2015, 02:42 PM
I had no clue Jason Marquis was still in the league.

Mohoney
05-09-2015, 03:30 PM
I heard on the radio today that Rodon is going back to the bullpen after this start. If Rodon pitches well tonight and if he doesn't replace Danks/Noesi in the rotation, Ventura should not only be fired, he should get a swift kick in his rear end as he's going out the door.

I don't think it's Robin's call. I think it's Rick Hahn's call.

anewman35
05-09-2015, 05:02 PM
They're calling up Chris Beck for the game as the 26th man, so somebody has to go down after the game anyway, so it would seem to make some sense to keep Beck and option down Rodon for a few days, but I don't know if they will because they might think it sends the wrong message or doesn't look right or something.

Thinking about this further, this doesn't actually work because Rodon would have to spend 10 days in the minors, unless they put somebody on the DL...

Mohoney
05-09-2015, 09:38 PM
Thinking about this further, this doesn't actually work because Rodon would have to spend 10 days in the minors, unless they put somebody on the DL...

I thought the 10-day rule doesn't apply anymore since he already has 10 days logged in the minors this year.

anewman35
05-09-2015, 10:32 PM
I thought the 10-day rule doesn't apply anymore since he already has 10 days logged in the minors this year.

As far as I know this always applies, even if they've been to the minors, if it didn't what would stop teams from constantly cycling in people to replace starting pitchers or tired relievers?

(In this this is the confusion, this has nothing to do with the Service Time issues that kept him in the minors at the beginning of the season)

anewman35
05-12-2015, 04:36 PM
Merkin reports he's starting again Friday.

#1swisher
05-12-2015, 04:49 PM
Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin) 5m (https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/598242018410762240)
Rodon's transition into starting has begun per Rick Hahn
But it will be a gradual process. It doesn't mean he will go every five days from here on out
Noesi to the bullpen for now


Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes) 6m (https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/598242178440175616)
#WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhiteSox?src=hash) still to monitor Carlos Rodon's workload, means he won't start every time and may get extra days here and there.

Daryl Van Schouwen ‏@CST_soxvan (https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan) 13m13 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/CST_soxvan/status/598241612523839488)

Hahn on Carlos Rodon joining White Sox rotation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TZb0byBUI&sns=tw … (http://t.co/4ENxHw4ilJ) via @youtube (https://twitter.com/YouTube)

Mohoney
05-12-2015, 05:28 PM
As far as I know this always applies, even if they've been to the minors, if it didn't what would stop teams from constantly cycling in people to replace starting pitchers or tired relievers?

As long as both players involved in the transaction are already on an option year, I thought there was nothing to stop teams from constantly cycling people. The waiver process, veterans' consent rules, and other such rules would prevent it from happening to the majority of players on a roster.

ricker182
05-12-2015, 05:37 PM
No surprise Rodon is starting.
Like I said before, he's ready.
He was drafted as a HIGHLY TOUTED prospect who could make an immediate impact and the Sox are going to do just that with him.

Good move Sox.