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all*star quentin
05-02-2014, 10:40 PM
Johnny Danks gives up 8 runs on 10 hits. SOX lose 12-5

Over By There
05-02-2014, 10:49 PM
Granted, the Tribe had some luck with lots of little squibs and flares that dropped for hits tonight, but I'm starting to think Danks just isn't going to come back. Laboring again tonight to sit in the mid-80s.

ChiSoxGal85
05-02-2014, 10:57 PM
:puking:

I hate this crappy play against the Indians and Nick Swisher's smug mug. The Tribe lost 6 in a row and probably couldn't wait 'til the Sox got in town.

Danks had nothing tonight. I stopped watching when it got to be 9-5 or whatever it was. It just felt like one of *those* games. The good news is, it's the first time this season I've felt like throwing something at the TV.

Boondock Saint
05-02-2014, 11:25 PM
Granted, the Tribe had some luck with lots of little squibs and flares that dropped for hits tonight, but I'm starting to think Danks just isn't going to come back. Laboring again tonight to sit in the mid-80s.

Yeah, I wasn't worried last year, thought he just needed time to get back into it. This year, not so much.

amsteel
05-03-2014, 12:57 AM
If pitchers keep dropping like they have been I'm hoping the Sox have enough marginal guys like Danks at the deadline to be in the position to make some deals.

Danks' contract is so bad that likely no one will touch him but everyone other than a Sale or Q should be available.

JB98
05-03-2014, 12:58 AM
Sounds like Eaton may be headed to the DL. The injuries just keep piling up. Gonna be real hard to hang around .500 with players dropping like flies. The schedule is a little less rigorous in May, but I'm not optimistic because of the mounting injuries.

Boondock Saint
05-03-2014, 01:00 AM
Sounds like Eaton may be headed to the DL. The injuries just keep piling up. Gonna be real hard to hang around .500 with players dropping like flies. The schedule is a little less rigorous in May, but I'm not optimistic because of the mounting injuries.

Abreu's just gonna have to hit 20 bombs this month.

Do your job, rook.

WhiteSox5187
05-03-2014, 01:09 AM
Oh man, that outfield defense is going to be uuuugggggllllllyyyy if Eaton is out.

gobears1987
05-03-2014, 01:36 AM
What really stinks about the Danks contract is that it basically cost us Buehrle as Kenny Williams had to pick one. Needless to say, he made the wrong choice.

DSpivack
05-03-2014, 02:26 AM
Oh man, that outfield defense is going to be uuuugggggllllllyyyy if Eaton is out.
I don't think Danks is terrible defensively, but it's not having that spark at the top of the order that really hurts.

LITTLE NELL
05-03-2014, 06:21 AM
Danks always looks like he is short arming, not fully extending, wonder if he's still favoring the shoulder.

Love Eaton but he might be another Carlos Quentin.

Hartman
05-03-2014, 08:28 AM
Doesn't matter who's on the mound, we can't get anyone out.

doublem23
05-03-2014, 08:38 AM
What really stinks about the Danks contract is that it basically cost us Buehrle as Kenny Williams had to pick one. Needless to say, he made the wrong choice.

I don't know if we would have matched Miami's offer for Buehrle, anyways. Guy's still owed nearly $40 million between this year and next.

TomBradley72
05-03-2014, 09:16 AM
What a shame- this "rebuilding" version of the White Sox has shown so much promise- but we don't have anywhere near the organizational depth to handle losing N. Jones, A. Garcia, C. Sale, C. Gillaspie and now A. Eaton to injury along with losing Paulino and E. Johnson to overall suckage.

We're like a baseball team version of "Flowers for Algernon"- briefly brilliant- but quickly crashing down to earth.

Too bad Jordan Danks is looking like the classic AAAA player- let the Gorkys Hernandez era begin-

On the positive side- Jeff Keppinger had 2 hits for Birmingham in his rehab start at AA- too bad Micah Johnson can't play CF- he's now hitting .364 at AA.

Golden Sox
05-03-2014, 09:53 AM
One third of our Opening Day starting lineup is hurt. (Garcia, Eaton and Gilespie). With Sale out this is beginning to look like a train wreck. I was really optimistic at the start of this season. Things are starting to really look bad. Having Johnson flop and being put in the Minors has hurt the team also. As of now our only good starter is Quentana.

TomBradley72
05-03-2014, 11:11 AM
If Eaton goes on the DL- I'd like to see L. Garcia get some starts in either LF or CF vs. LHPs (or just put him in CF and have him lead off)- his long term role with the Sox is as a "super utility guy"- so getting him experience as on OF in 2014 will help prepare him for that role. A speedy, switch hitter who can fill in at 3B/SS/2B/LF/CF is a valuable guy to have on the roster.

Hitmen77
05-03-2014, 11:45 AM
What really stinks about the Danks contract is that it basically cost us Buehrle as Kenny Williams had to pick one. Needless to say, he made the wrong choice.
I don't know if we would have matched Miami's offer for Buehrle, anyways. Guy's still owed nearly $40 million between this year and next.

And we owe Danks $42M on the remainder of his contract. It's not like we got a better deal here.

This is one of those "what if" questions and we'll never know what transpired behind closed doors and how things would have played out otherwise, but I seem to recall that JR basically told Buehrle to go out there and take the best FA offer. That suggests to me that they weren't interested in offering MB an extension to keep him here. If they had offered an extension, maybe we'd never have gotten to the point of trying to match Miami's offer.

Of course, the decision to keep Danks over Buehrle being an awful one is all hindsight. But, I think gobears is still right that the Sox basically picked Danks over Buehrle and it's clear they made the wrong choice.

Oh well, only 3 more seasons of Danks's contract, right? :(:

JB98
05-03-2014, 12:20 PM
And we owe Danks $42M on the remainder of his contract. It's not like we got a better deal here.

This is one of those "what if" questions and we'll never know what transpired behind closed doors and how things would have played out otherwise, but I seem to recall that JR basically told Buehrle to go out there and take the best FA offer. That suggests to me that they weren't interested in offering MB an extension to keep him here. If they had offered an extension, maybe we'd never have gotten to the point of trying to match Miami's offer.

Of course, the decision to keep Danks over Buehrle being an awful one is all hindsight. But, I think gobears is still right that the Sox basically picked Danks over Buehrle and it's clear they made the wrong choice.

Oh well, only 3 more seasons of Danks's contract, right? :(:

Through 2016. And if he doesn't figure out a new way to pitch with less velocity on his fastball, he's going to get his ass kicked the entire time. We all know the Sox are going to continue to trot him out there regardless. It could get hard to watch.

cards press box
05-03-2014, 12:20 PM
And we owe Danks $42M on the remainder of his contract. It's not like we got a better deal here.

This is one of those "what if" questions and we'll never know what transpired behind closed doors and how things would have played out otherwise, but I seem to recall that JR basically told Buehrle to go out there and take the best FA offer. That suggests to me that they weren't interested in offering MB an extension to keep him here. If they had offered an extension, maybe we'd never have gotten to the point of trying to match Miami's offer.

Of course, the decision to keep Danks over Buehrle being an awful one is all hindsight. But, I think gobears is still right that the Sox basically picked Danks over Buehrle and it's clear they made the wrong choice.

Oh well, only 3 more seasons of Danks's contract, right?

Wait a second, Danks came into last night's game with a 2-1 record and an ERA in the mid two's, right? He was terrible last night, I understand, but it was just one game. Let's see how he does against the Cubs next Wednesday.

What a shame- this "rebuilding" version of the White Sox has shown so much promise- but we don't have anywhere near the organizational depth to handle losing N. Jones, A. Garcia, C. Sale, C. Gillaspie and now A. Eaton to injury along with losing Paulino and E. Johnson to overall suckage.

We're like a baseball team version of "Flowers for Algernon"- briefly brilliant- but quickly crashing down to earth.

Too bad Jordan Danks is looking like the classic AAAA player- let the Gorkys Hernandez era begin-

On the positive side- Jeff Keppinger had 2 hits for Birmingham in his rehab start at AA- too bad Micah Johnson can't play CF- he's now hitting .364 at AA.

1. Micah Johnson is a difference maker and may very well be batting 1st or 2nd on the Sox by the end of this year or start of next year.

2. Have to hope that Jeff Keppinger plays well enough in the minors so Rick Hahn can deal him to the Yankees for someone.

3. Like the literary reference to Flowers For Algernon which, I believe, was adapted into the film Charly starring Cliff Robertson.

4. This Sox team doesn't remind me so much of Flowers For Algernon but rather the 1967 K.C. A's -- a young, talented team that is, at some point, going to blossom into a top flight squad.

Over By There
05-03-2014, 12:37 PM
Wait a second, Danks came into last night's game with a 2-1 record and an ERA in the mid two's, right? He was terrible last night, I understand, but it was just one game. Let's see how he does against the Cubs next Wednesday.

2-1 and in the mid threes, actually (now 2-2 and an even 5.00). He's basically had a couple good starts, a couple mediocre starts, and a couple stinkers. So point taken about seeing a bigger sample size, but just looking at his delivery and velocity, my confidence is very low.

JB98
05-03-2014, 12:41 PM
2-1 and in the mid threes, actually (now 2-2 and an even 5.00). He's basically had a couple good starts, a couple mediocre starts, and a couple stinkers. So point taken about seeing a bigger sample size, but just looking at his delivery and velocity, my confidence is very low.

Yeah, I was concerned even before this start. He looked bad against Tampa Bay as well. Picking at corners, bouncing pitches, walking guys, not challenging hitters, falling behind in counts. He knows his stuff sucks. You can tell he doesn't trust it.

hawkjt
05-03-2014, 12:56 PM
Yeah, I was concerned even before this start. He looked bad against Tampa Bay as well. Picking at corners, bouncing pitches, walking guys, not challenging hitters, falling behind in counts. He knows his stuff sucks. You can tell he doesn't trust it.


He was solid out of the gate, but the last couple of starts are not good.

Still, if his arm is not hurt, I think he will be ok.

We all knew this was a rebuilding year, but the injuries could sabotage our chance to see the development.....love Eaton, Abreu, ect, but the Sox simply cannot afford more injuries and hang around.

LoveYourSuit
05-03-2014, 01:19 PM
2-1 and in the mid threes, actually (now 2-2 and an even 5.00). He's basically had a couple good starts, a couple mediocre starts, and a couple stinkers. So point taken about seeing a bigger sample size, but just looking at his delivery and velocity, my confidence is very low.

Despite his numbers, his WHIP was terrible I believe. Wild, not enough velocity, and doesn't miss bats.

In other words, he was pitching on luck upt to last night.

Crestani
05-03-2014, 01:29 PM
Through 2016. And if he doesn't figure out a new way to pitch with less velocity on his fastball, he's going to get his ass kicked the entire time. We all know the Sox are going to continue to trot him out there regardless. It could get hard to watch.

Since we are stuck with Danks, maybe he could become the specialist lefty out of the pen....After we DFA Downs of course..!! It's pretty obvious he doesn't have the arm strength or command to start anymore!

TaylorStSox
05-03-2014, 01:49 PM
What really stinks about the Danks contract is that it basically cost us Buehrle as Kenny Williams had to pick one. Needless to say, he made the wrong choice.

This is known as revisionist history.

WhiteSox5187
05-03-2014, 02:38 PM
This is known as revisionist history.

No, it's hind sight. At the time anyone would have taken Danks over Buehrle but now people can look back and say "Oh, you should have taken Buehrle."

TaylorStSox
05-03-2014, 02:43 PM
No, it's hind sight. At the time anyone would have taken Danks over Buehrle but now people can look back and say "Oh, you should have taken Buehrle."

It was never either/or. MB got a ridiculous contract that the Sox were never going to match.

gobears1987
05-03-2014, 08:42 PM
It was never either/or. MB got a ridiculous contract that the Sox were never going to match.

It was either or as it was about the money as it was clear after the "All-in" disaster that they would understandable be trying to trim down payroll. They could give the money to Danks or they could give it to Buehrle. Those chose Danks and it turned out to be a terrible move.

Yes this is hindsight, but it doesn't change the facts.