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#1swisher
03-07-2014, 12:14 PM
SODFATHER: "I've never dealt before with 30 inches of frost."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-white-sox-grass-sullivan-spt-0307-20140307,0,4935453.story

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amsteel
03-07-2014, 04:10 PM
Going by USCF on the train Sunday I couldn't believe that I'll be there in 4 weeks for OD.

There better be a decent melt otherwise the already poorly managed OD parking situation will be compounded by lost spaces dues to snow piles.

Noneck
03-08-2014, 12:30 AM
SODFATHER: "I've never dealt before with 30 inches of frost."


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I thought extended periods of snow cover insulated the soil. I would have thought that after the snow has melted, the ground would thaw more quickly after a cold winter.

vinny
03-08-2014, 06:55 AM
I thought extended periods of snow cover insulated the soil. I would have thought that after the snow has melted, the ground would thaw more quickly after a cold winter.

Maybe if it hadn't been so blasted cold on top of things. There was a story on Channel 5 last night about frozen water pipes in Elgin - someone from the water director's office said the frost line in some areas has extended 60-80 inches below the surface.

Railsplitter
03-08-2014, 09:08 AM
Maybe if it hadn't been so blasted cold on top of things. There was a story on Channel 5 last night about frozen water pipes in Elgin - someone from the water director's office said the frost line in some areas has extended 60-80 inches below the surface.

One of the papers here in the NW 'burbs has mentioned the weather is making trouble for the spring sports. The outdoor sports have been forced to practice inside and there and even when the snow melts, the fields will have to be thawed and dried before they can be used.

#1swisher
03-08-2014, 01:34 PM
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#1swisher
03-09-2014, 02:01 PM
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SoxChic5
03-09-2014, 11:28 PM
We'll be there! Cannot wait! Pass the hot chocolate :)

#1swisher
03-10-2014, 02:32 PM
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#1swisher
03-10-2014, 02:35 PM
#WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox&src=hash) manager Robin Ventura confirms that Chris Sale will be his Opening Day starter. "He's our best pitcher," Ventura said.

bunkaroo
03-10-2014, 03:04 PM
Going by USCF on the train Sunday I couldn't believe that I'll be there in 4 weeks for OD.

There better be a decent melt otherwise the already poorly managed OD parking situation will be compounded by lost spaces dues to snow piles.

I've already decided I'm going to sit this year's OD out. I've been there the last 4 years (all wins!), but between the weather, their performance last year and the awful experience I had trying to get parked last year, I'm out.

I'll go enjoy a game sometime in April as a walkup when the weather is nice.

GlassSox
03-10-2014, 05:38 PM
We will be there all bundled up. :D:

DonnieDarko
03-10-2014, 10:22 PM
Any idea what the forecast for OD is?

soxfan21
03-11-2014, 01:02 AM
Any idea what the forecast for OD is?

Accuweather is saying 51 with some showers later in the day so far. I'll be there rain or shine for my and my cousins 8th straight opening day.

DSpivack
03-11-2014, 10:14 AM
Any idea what the forecast for OD is?
Pretty meaningless 20 days out. Check back starting three days beforehand.

Rocky Soprano
03-11-2014, 10:31 AM
Opening Day is a special game for my brothers and myself. It does not matter if we don't have high hopes for the team, baseball is back!

We will be there for our 13th straight opener! :bandance::gulp:

palehosepub
03-11-2014, 11:54 AM
My absolute favorite day of the year.

Went to my first one in 1984 when I was in college at Loyola and have made every one since. My bother has been with me at every one since the last year of Old Comiskey - 1990.

I enjoy the excitement of a new season, better weather ahead etc. It is a rite of spring no matter what happened the year before.

"You always get a special kick on opening day, no matter how many you go through. You look forward to it like a birthday party when you're a kid. You think something wonderful is going to happen." JOE DIMAGGIO

palehosepub
03-11-2014, 11:59 AM
Sorry - allow me one more classic quote from Rogers Hornsby

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."

roylestillman
03-11-2014, 12:56 PM
My absolute favorite day of the year.

Went to my first one in 1984 when I was in college at Loyola and have made every one since. My bother has been with me at every one since the last year of Old Comiskey - 1990.

I enjoy the excitement of a new season, better weather ahead etc. It is a rite of spring no matter what happened the year before.

"You always get a special kick on opening day, no matter how many you go through. You look forward to it like a birthday party when you're a kid. You think something wonderful is going to happen." JOE DIMAGGIO

"Opening Day, Christmas, my birthday, in that order." Still my favorite quote from some random guy in the parking lot on Opening Day a few years ago. I started my first year at Loyola in 1976. This will be my 39th consecutive Opener. Can't believe it's the 24th at the new park.

Rocky Soprano
03-11-2014, 01:14 PM
My absolute favorite day of the year.

Went to my first one in 1984 when I was in college at Loyola and have made every one since. My bother has been with me at every one since the last year of Old Comiskey - 1990.

I enjoy the excitement of a new season, better weather ahead etc. It is a rite of spring no matter what happened the year before.

"You always get a special kick on opening day, no matter how many you go through. You look forward to it like a birthday party when you're a kid. You think something wonderful is going to happen." JOE DIMAGGIO

"Opening Day, Christmas, my birthday, in that order." Still my favorite quote from some random guy in the parking lot on Opening Day a few years ago. I started my first year at Loyola in 1976. This will be my 39th consecutive Opener. Can't believe it's the 24th at the new park.

Kudos to you both for having such an awesome streak! :gulp:
My 13th straight doesn't seem as cool anymore. :redface:

palehosepub
03-11-2014, 01:30 PM
Kudos to you both for having such an awesome streak! :gulp:
My 13th straight doesn't seem as cool anymore. :redface:

Thanks - it must be the persistence and loyalty the Jesuits taught us at Loyola...............

roylestillman
03-11-2014, 02:11 PM
Thanks - it must be the persistence and loyalty the Jesuits taught us at Loyola...............

Or the need for a diversion from classes at Loyola....and sympathetic bosses, who often joined me.

#1swisher
03-11-2014, 09:35 PM
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#1swisher
03-12-2014, 01:19 PM
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#1swisher
03-12-2014, 01:22 PM
Revolution Brewing
We'll be tailgating the opener and look forward to drinking some Chicago-made beer inside the stadium too.

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Walker29
03-12-2014, 04:12 PM
Almost every opening day with my Dad and a few other friends and family since 2000. We didn't go in 2001, but went 2002-2005, went to the 2nd game in 2006 ("Ring Day") 2007-2010, decided to go to the 2nd game in 2011 ("First Night Game") and back to Opening Day in 2012-the present. Can't wait for 3/31/14! 12 out of 15 Opening Days and 14 out of 15.

robertks61
03-12-2014, 07:41 PM
29th in a row, if I miss one it's because I passed away!

ChiSoxGirl
03-12-2014, 09:57 PM
I've been going to Opening Day since 2000. This will be my ninth in a row and fourth consecutive with my boyfriend. I've only missed two in the last 15 years - 2003 when I was student teaching and couldn't be absent, and 2005 when the game fell on the first day back after spring break and my principal didn't allow personal days to be taken on the day following (or leading up to) a vacation. :rolleyes:

JohnTucker0814
03-12-2014, 10:47 PM
My Dad and I will be there. Been every year, except 1, since the new park opened! The only one I didn't get to was in 2006, but we went to the 2nd game instead because of the ring presentation, which was AWESOME!

This year, I splurged and purchased 2nd row tickets from a friend (paid a pretty dime)... should be a special day!!!!

TomBradley72
03-13-2014, 08:04 AM
My Stubhub alert is set- afternoon off from work approved- if Tom Skiilling comes through with a decent weather forecast- pull the trigger and order tix.

I''ll take Opening Day over any other day in sports (other than White Sox post season games)- always a great time and great memories.

tebman
03-13-2014, 08:05 AM
My wife and I went to Opening Day in 1981. A great day -- bright sunshine, clear sky, full house, and Carlton Fisk's grand slam. What a package that was.

I've been lucky to be able to be there at every opener since then and it never gets old. Closed down one ballpark, opened a new one, sat in the sunshine, shivered in the cold, it doesn't matter. Ozzie Smith probably won't pull off his plan to make Opening Day a national holiday, but it's always been a holiday for me.

See you at the ballpark.

:gulp:

#1swisher
03-13-2014, 12:54 PM
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palehosepub
03-13-2014, 02:12 PM
My wife and I went to Opening Day in 1981. A great day -- bright sunshine, clear sky, full house, and Carlton Fisk's grand slam. What a package that was.

I've been lucky to be able to be there at every opener since then and it never gets old. Closed down one ballpark, opened a new one, sat in the sunshine, shivered in the cold, it doesn't matter. Ozzie Smith probably won't pull off his plan to make Opening Day a national holiday, but it's always been a holiday for me.

See you at the ballpark.

:gulp:

Got me by three years, I went to my first in 1984- it was against the Tigers and it was a night game and freeeeeeeeeeezing cold.

My favorite one was probably the 2006 opener - raising the Championship banner and winning in extra innings on a Thome home run.

2000 was great - a late start due to weather, Ray Durham makes a great over the shoulder catch and the Sox beat the Angels.

1990 was bittersweet knowing that it would be the last opener at the ballpark I grew up in.

The other one I really enjoyed was circa 1993 - against the Yankees on Good Friday and it was 80+ degrees and a White Sox winner, I believe it was the first opening day win in the new ballpark.

smac38
03-13-2014, 05:51 PM
My favorite one was probably the 2006 opener - raising the Championship banner and winning in extra innings on a Thome home run.



Great game and one of my favorites, but the Sox beat up on the Indians that night. Something like 9-3 or 10-3, after that long rain delay.

Either way, the game was memorable.

#1swisher
03-15-2014, 02:18 PM
Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox) 23h (https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/444539641262137344) The Sodfather does it all. Roger Bossard is snow blowing the field today to prep for #OpeningDay (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OpeningDay&src=hash). pic.twitter.com/ClRY6roKFg (http://t.co/ClRY6roKFg)


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#1swisher
03-15-2014, 02:56 PM
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#1swisher
03-16-2014, 01:31 PM
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03-17-2014, 01:56 PM
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bunkaroo
03-17-2014, 03:47 PM
I've already decided I'm going to sit this year's OD out. I've been there the last 4 years (all wins!), but between the weather, their performance last year and the awful experience I had trying to get parked last year, I'm out.

I'll go enjoy a game sometime in April as a walkup when the weather is nice.

Came to my senses - I'll be there. Picked up some SEC338 tickets. :bandance:

#1swisher
03-19-2014, 03:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjGI5EbCMAAtldY.jpg

doublem23
03-21-2014, 12:13 PM
According to Skilling and the Tribune, next week will be decidedly colder than normal, but above average temperatures are predicted for Opening Day and most of the first week of the season, and potentially for most of April.

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1510467_10152251659816760_1995344148_n.png

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FielderJones
03-21-2014, 02:40 PM
Not sure what happened to #1swisher but --

http://www.chicagonow.com/art-pale-hose/files/2013/01/alexei-ramirez.jpg

days until #openingday

keloms
03-22-2014, 05:02 AM
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail9/60616

Weather channel forecast is up. 57 and cloudy.

FielderJones
03-22-2014, 10:35 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2dpyk9SRE68/TgANBQ4BdmI/AAAAAAAAAfY/fnpcfQuiZVw/s1600/1964+Topps+Minnie+Minoso.jpg

days until #openingday

TomBradley72
03-22-2014, 11:40 AM
Scored 2 tix on ticketmaster this morning- Sect 127, Row 10- I'm pumped-

robertks61
03-22-2014, 12:07 PM
Scored 2 tix on ticketmaster this morning- Sect 127, Row 10- I'm pumped-


I got on TM this morning also. Saw a lot of good seats available. I already have 2 so didn't purchase any.

FielderJones
03-23-2014, 09:55 AM
http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/bo_jackson_1991_10_03.jpg

days until #openingday

Brian26
03-23-2014, 10:40 AM
Scored 2 tix on ticketmaster this morning- Sect 127, Row 10- I'm pumped-

I got on TM this morning also. Saw a lot of good seats available. I already have 2 so didn't purchase any.

Wow. So I'm guessing the Sox are now releasing tickets that were previously being held back for Season Ticket packages. Seats in the first 20 rows weren't available back on Feb 26 when tickets first went on sale with the codes.

Brian26
03-23-2014, 10:42 AM
Waiting to see if Jorge Orta or Charlie Lau make an appearance in this thread this week :tongue:

roylestillman
03-23-2014, 01:41 PM
Waiting to see if Jorge Orta or Charlie Lau make an appearance in this thread this week :tongue:

One Dog next Sunday.

Forecasts are starting to converge on good for OD. I'm seeing a 61 on weather underground and 64 on Accuweather.

mrfourni
03-23-2014, 03:03 PM
Wow. So I'm guessing the Sox are now releasing tickets that were previously being held back for Season Ticket packages. Seats in the first 20 rows weren't available back on Feb 26 when tickets first went on sale with the codes.

Does anyone know why they don't let people choose their own seats for opening day like they do for every other game?

comiskey2000
03-23-2014, 03:16 PM
Wow. So I'm guessing the Sox are now releasing tickets that were previously being held back for Season Ticket packages. Seats in the first 20 rows weren't available back on Feb 26 when tickets first went on sale with the codes.

It is staring to look like this game won't be sold out. I guess it is not surprisng following a 99 loss season, but it was never this easy to get OD tickets.

Brian26
03-23-2014, 07:30 PM
One Dog next Sunday.

Forecasts are starting to converge on good for OD. I'm seeing a 61 on weather underground and 64 on Accuweather.

Very nice.

:hawk
"Hell Yes!"

Brian26
03-23-2014, 07:34 PM
It is staring to look like this game won't be sold out. I guess it is not surprisng following a 99 loss season, but it was never this easy to get OD tickets.

It is totally understandable. The lesson lately with tickets seems to be the longer you wait, the better deal you get, and that seems to apply to all aspects, whether season tickets, walkup, stubhub, whatever.

soxfan21
03-23-2014, 07:38 PM
It is staring to look like this game won't be sold out. I guess it is not surprisng following a 99 loss season, but it was never this easy to get OD tickets.


I think a lot had to do with pricing also, $94 for lower box and $112 for lower platinum is a lot of money for a team coming off a 99 loss season. This is the first year in a while I opted not to get lower box seats, and got lower reserved instead for $60 a piece.

FielderJones
03-24-2014, 12:02 PM
Waiting to see if Jorge Orta or Charlie Lau make an appearance in this thread this week :tongue:

Good luck finding a picture of Charlie Lau in his #6 Sox uniform. Maybe your Google-fu is stronger than mine.

FielderJones
03-24-2014, 12:05 PM
http://nbchardballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/jeff-keppinger-white-sox.jpg

days until #openingday

dickallen15
03-24-2014, 12:49 PM
I think a lot had to do with pricing also, $94 for lower box and $112 for lower platinum is a lot of money for a team coming off a 99 loss season. This is the first year in a while I opted not to get lower box seats, and got lower reserved instead for $60 a piece.
Dynamic pricing is creating an empty seat dynamic.

FielderJones
03-25-2014, 10:50 AM
http://whitesoxcards.net/numbers/WhiteSox-6.jpg

days until #openingday

October26
03-25-2014, 11:04 AM
http://whitesoxcards.net/numbers/WhiteSox-6.jpg

days until #openingday

Well hello again, Jorge Orta :)

I am super-excited about the upcoming Sox home opener and cannot wait until Monday. The weather is supposed to be fantastic. :bandance: I will once again be with my father (86 years young) watching the Sox home opener on his large HD TV. :D: GO SOX!!

doublem23
03-25-2014, 12:51 PM
Dynamic pricing is creating an empty seat dynamic.

I thought the Sox ditched dynamic pricing.

mrfourni
03-25-2014, 02:12 PM
I thought the Sox ditched dynamic pricing.

Nope: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/ticketing/pricing.jsp?c_id=cws&layout=gameflow

Also, if the White Sox "dynamically priced" ticket prices in both directions, it might actually make some sense. As it stands, they have a policy where tickets are cheaper the further in advance you buy them. How they think raising prices the closer you get to gameday is a sound strategy with a season ticket base so low and the need for strong walkup crowds doesn't make much sense to me.

palehosepub
03-25-2014, 02:53 PM
Wow. So I'm guessing the Sox are now releasing tickets that were previously being held back for Season Ticket packages. Seats in the first 20 rows weren't available back on Feb 26 when tickets first went on sale with the codes.

What is strange is that when I exercised my Season ticket upgrade invitation there were no options in the first 12 rows of the premium box seats. They should have made those seats available to long term season ticket holders......

DeadMoney
03-25-2014, 03:25 PM
Nope: http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/ticketing/pricing.jsp?c_id=cws&layout=gameflow

Also, if the White Sox "dynamically priced" ticket prices in both directions, it might actually make some sense. As it stands, they have a policy where tickets are cheaper the further in advance you buy them. How they think raising prices the closer you get to gameday is a sound strategy with a season ticket base so low and the need for strong walkup crowds doesn't make much sense to me.

I'm not sure why this hasn't become obvious, but they don't really care.

Look at the price of Opening Day versus the price of the other games that week. In many cases, if they sell 1 ticket in many of those sections, it equals the value of 2-4 on other days. When they're raising prices closer to games, they can better anticipate and forecast things like staff needed on hand, food preparation necessary, etc. And honestly, when the difference in the revenue of 400 walkups (with "dynamic" pricing) to 1200-1500 walkups (with budget/cheaper pricing) is nothing - while they get to save on additional costs around the park - why should they care?

Additionally, since the Sox are now required to be paying more to the ISFA for tickets sold over 1,925,000 per season (http://www.chicagosportandsociety.com/2013/04/24/rent-in-the-white-soxisfa-agreement/), what is the incentive to sell more? Look at their attendances the last few years - 1,768,413, 1,965,955, 2,001,117. When taking comp tickets into consideration, they always fall below that 1,925,000 threshold and don't have to kick in that extra $3 per ticket (for how many paid tickets were sold over 1,925,000).

Now theoretically, everyone involved should be at least attempting to get them AS CLOSE to the 1,925,000 number as humanly possible as that would obviously maximize their revenue, but at the end of the day I'm convinced that everyone over at 35th and Shields just doesn't care. They know they'll get their 1.5 million fans regardless, and in the process they'll continue stuffing the pockets of their investors.

doublem23
03-25-2014, 03:45 PM
Now theoretically, everyone involved should be at least attempting to get them AS CLOSE to the 1,925,000 number as humanly possible as that would obviously maximize their revenue, but at the end of the day I'm convinced that everyone over at 35th and Shields just doesn't care. They know they'll get their 1.5 million fans regardless, and in the process they'll continue stuffing the pockets of their investors.

I'm sorry that the curtain was pulled back today for you and you just found out sports is actually a business

DeadMoney
03-25-2014, 04:04 PM
I'm sorry that the curtain was pulled back today for you and you just found out sports is actually a business

I'm sorry you struggle at reading comprehension and I fail to understand where I implied that I just learned this today or that I learned any of it at any point in the recent past.

keloms
03-25-2014, 04:25 PM
Skilling was just on WGN Radio and said he said temps warm this weekend, but, he doesn't think it'll hold for the Sox opener and it's possible there'll be showers / thunderstorms Monday afternoon.

mrfourni
03-25-2014, 04:27 PM
I'm not sure why this hasn't become obvious, but they don't really care.

Look at the price of Opening Day versus the price of the other games that week. In many cases, if they sell 1 ticket in many of those sections, it equals the value of 2-4 on other days. When they're raising prices closer to games, they can better anticipate and forecast things like staff needed on hand, food preparation necessary, etc. And honestly, when the difference in the revenue of 400 walkups (with "dynamic" pricing) to 1200-1500 walkups (with budget/cheaper pricing) is nothing - while they get to save on additional costs around the park - why should they care?

Additionally, since the Sox are now required to be paying more to the ISFA for tickets sold over 1,925,000 per season (http://www.chicagosportandsociety.com/2013/04/24/rent-in-the-white-soxisfa-agreement/), what is the incentive to sell more? Look at their attendances the last few years - 1,768,413, 1,965,955, 2,001,117. When taking comp tickets into consideration, they always fall below that 1,925,000 threshold and don't have to kick in that extra $3 per ticket (for how many paid tickets were sold over 1,925,000).

Now theoretically, everyone involved should be at least attempting to get them AS CLOSE to the 1,925,000 number as humanly possible as that would obviously maximize their revenue, but at the end of the day I'm convinced that everyone over at 35th and Shields just doesn't care. They know they'll get their 1.5 million fans regardless, and in the process they'll continue stuffing the pockets of their investors.

Thanks for that article. I had never seen it before. I agree with your first paragraph on pricing more in-demand games higher.

But to answer the question in your second paragraph "what is the incentive to sell more?" it seems to me that there is still an incentive to sell as many tickets as possible. Assuming an average ticket price of $20, they would still be making $17/ticket after they paid the state the extra $3.

doublem23
03-25-2014, 04:39 PM
I'm sorry you struggle at reading comprehension and I fail to understand where I implied that I just learned this today or that I learned any of it at any point in the recent past.

Well, I guess it was probably the part where you seem to think the Sox are run by a bunch of guys who don't care or don't know how to do their job and not a bunch of well paid, well educated businessmen who know exactly what they're doing. I agree with you it sucks from a fan's perspective, but that's unfortunately the breaks.

#1swisher
03-26-2014, 12:01 PM
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Days to Home Opener

Jerko
03-26-2014, 12:18 PM
What I don't like it "they try to predict what staff they'll need". That bit them in the ass during the Ligue game. It was about 80 degrees, the Royals were in town and actually had a winning record (10-3 or some such), the walk ups flooded the place and the Sox were caught with their pants down. I realize game 2 and 3 will be empty compared to monday, but dammit it's a major league park charging major league prices, the whole park should be open. Maybe that is part of the reason the place sits empty during the week.

#1swisher
03-26-2014, 02:00 PM
Danny Ecker ‏@DannyEcker (https://twitter.com/DannyEcker) 1h (https://twitter.com/DannyEcker/status/448858215984689152) The finally thawed field that will host baseball in 5 days: pic.twitter.com/r3M5g0CFv8 (http://t.co/r3M5g0CFv8)


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjqqK0vIYAAyEFD.jpg

mrfourni
03-26-2014, 02:43 PM
What I don't like it "they try to predict what staff they'll need". That bit them in the ass during the Ligue game. It was about 80 degrees, the Royals were in town and actually had a winning record (10-3 or some such), the walk ups flooded the place and the Sox were caught with their pants down. I realize game 2 and 3 will be empty compared to monday, but dammit it's a major league park charging major league prices, the whole park should be open. Maybe that is part of the reason the place sits empty during the week.

I think you're thinking of the game where the Cubs fan ran on the field and attacked the ump after being at Wrigley for a day game earlier that day. The Ligue game was in September the previous year.

#1swisher
03-27-2014, 11:36 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG2uHaHCEAMLa1l.jpg

dickallen15
03-27-2014, 01:10 PM
I'm not sure why this hasn't become obvious, but they don't really care.

Look at the price of Opening Day versus the price of the other games that week. In many cases, if they sell 1 ticket in many of those sections, it equals the value of 2-4 on other days. When they're raising prices closer to games, they can better anticipate and forecast things like staff needed on hand, food preparation necessary, etc. And honestly, when the difference in the revenue of 400 walkups (with "dynamic" pricing) to 1200-1500 walkups (with budget/cheaper pricing) is nothing - while they get to save on additional costs around the park - why should they care?

Additionally, since the Sox are now required to be paying more to the ISFA for tickets sold over 1,925,000 per season (http://www.chicagosportandsociety.com/2013/04/24/rent-in-the-white-soxisfa-agreement/), what is the incentive to sell more? Look at their attendances the last few years - 1,768,413, 1,965,955, 2,001,117. When taking comp tickets into consideration, they always fall below that 1,925,000 threshold and don't have to kick in that extra $3 per ticket (for how many paid tickets were sold over 1,925,000).

Now theoretically, everyone involved should be at least attempting to get them AS CLOSE to the 1,925,000 number as humanly possible as that would obviously maximize their revenue, but at the end of the day I'm convinced that everyone over at 35th and Shields just doesn't care. They know they'll get their 1.5 million fans regardless, and in the process they'll continue stuffing the pockets of their investors.


It worked the other way too. It is based on full-priced tickets. When they had half-price Monday's, those tickets didn't count.

TomBradley72
03-27-2014, 05:49 PM
1978 Opening Day-

Ron Bloomberg homers in the bottom of the 9th- Wayne Nordhagen bloop single scores Chet Lemon to beat the Red Sox in extra innings-

(I cut school and baseball practice- got a slap on the wrist- but a great memory)

7664

#1swisher
03-28-2014, 11:42 AM
Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox) 1h (https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/449546495339933697) It's Friday, and there's #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox&src=hash) baseball on Monday. We really can't think of a better scenario. #OpeningDay (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23OpeningDay&src=hash) pic.twitter.com/dW0tA0INWk (http://t.co/dW0tA0INWk)




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#1swisher
03-28-2014, 12:00 PM
Chicago White Sox ‏@whitesox (https://twitter.com/whitesox) 26m (https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/449569870464561154)

WATCH: #WhiteSox (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox&src=hash) GM Rick Hahn discusses the team’s outlook: http://atmlb.com/1maTLDm (http://t.co/AlPs2bKBQl)

SBSoxFan
03-28-2014, 12:09 PM
I just upgraded my TV package so I now have comcast sportsnet Chicago. I am looking forward to leaving work early Monday, coming home and watching a White Sox winner! :bandance:

#1swisher
03-28-2014, 01:24 PM
http://revbrew.com/whats-new/detail/celebrate-chicago-baseball-opening-days-with-revolution-brewing

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Brian26
03-28-2014, 09:14 PM
Weather forecast for Monday gets better every time I check it. NWS is calling for a high of 64 with 30% chance of storms. Weather Channel calling for high of 56, mostly sunny with 10% chance of rain. :bandance:

keloms
03-28-2014, 11:24 PM
Weather forecast for Monday gets better every time I check it. NWS is calling for a high of 64 with 30% chance of storms. Weather Channel calling for high of 56, mostly sunny with 10% chance of rain. :bandance:

Yes! Rain is expected to hold off until later in the evening!

ChiSoxGirl
03-28-2014, 11:39 PM
Weather forecast for Monday gets better every time I check it. NWS is calling for a high of 64 with 30% chance of storms. Weather Channel calling for high of 56, mostly sunny with 10% chance of rain. :bandance:

Yes! Rain is expected to hold off until later in the evening!

After the pure hell we've put up with this winter, we deserve an Opening Day forecast like this! I'm so stoked to get out to the ballpark on Monday and FINALLY watch some live baseball! :bandance:

Brian26
03-29-2014, 10:25 AM
The weather gods have shined down on the Sox this year. This looks like it will be the nicest Opening Day, weather wise, since the 2005 opener:


Weather Channel now at 67 as a high for Monday with 10% chance of rain. The rest of the week: Tues 51, Wed 40, Thur 42, Fri 43, Sat 43.

NWS: High of 65, mostly sunny and breezy.

Skilling: High of 68:
Warmest day of 2014.
Partly sunny and very windy for the White Sox home opener as highs soar to the middle and upper 60s, levels about 15 degrees above normal. Gusty south winds 18-28 mph. Chance for showers late but a better chance at night.

#1swisher
03-29-2014, 01:21 PM
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyG8QI_tesQvT9qKE2ijRlIpng5UGeQ JKx5DlfXv0VLaYEYuTxMg days to Home Opener

tebman
03-29-2014, 06:43 PM
Two Days 'til Opening Day! :happyguy:

Ah, the time draws nigh for Opening Day! Not soon enough, but soon. New seasons bring out the song in all of us. Join me in an overpriced plastic cup of beer as we sing limericks to the 2014 White Sox:

:drunken:

There once was a team in Chicago
Whose fans had resolved to embargo,
Until it was shown
That some talent was grown,
And Rick Hahn had shown some bravado.

So off he began to pursue
New players who could hit and who threw
Better than those
When we held our nose,
Watching that old team we knew.

Matt Thornton was sent off to Boston.
His pitching was often exhaustin’.
Fastballs galore,
Hitters ran up the score,
Feasting on meatballs he’s tossin’.

And down in the Tampa Bay sands,
They took Jesse Crain off our hands.
We’ll miss him, we knew,
But after review
He just didn’t fit in our plans.

The paycheck to Peavy was costin’
So Hahn sent ol' Jake off to Boston.
At first it seemed weird,
But when smoke had all cleared,
Avi Garcia was tossed in.

The Sox found themselves often beaten
By clumsy and clueless outfieldin’.
DeAza should sit
When fly balls get hit,
So Hahn got instead Adam Eaton

And now we begin a new season.
We’ll come if we’re given a reason.
We still have Chris Sale
And the Sox will unveil
A lineup Hahn hopes we find pleasin’.


See you at the ballpark! :cheers:

Lip Man 1
03-29-2014, 07:08 PM
Wish everyone all the best for opening day and for the season. The Sox won't win more than they lose this year but they won't be as bad as last season...and progress will be made.

Lip

spawn
03-29-2014, 08:55 PM
Two Days 'til Opening Day! :happyguy:

Ah, the time draws nigh for Opening Day! Not soon enough, but soon. New seasons bring out the song in all of us. Join me in an overpriced plastic cup of beer as we sing limericks to the 2014 White Sox:

:drunken:

There once was a team in Chicago
Whose fans had resolved to embargo,
Until it was shown
That some talent was grown,
And Rick Hahn had shown some bravado.

So off he began to pursue
New players who could hit and who threw
Better than those
When we held our nose,
Watching that old team we knew.

Matt Thornton was sent off to Boston.
His pitching was often exhaustin’.
Fastballs galore,
Hitters ran up the score,
Feasting on meatballs he’s tossin’.

And down in the Tampa Bay sands,
They took Jesse Crain off our hands.
We’ll miss him, we knew,
But after review
He just didn’t fit in our plans.

The paycheck to Peavy was costin’
So Hahn sent ol' Jake off to Boston.
At first it seemed weird,
But when smoke had all cleared,
Avi Garcia was tossed in.

The Sox found themselves often beaten
By clumsy and clueless outfieldin’.
DeAza should sit
When fly balls get hit,
So Hahn got instead Adam Eaton

And now we begin a new season.
We’ll come if we’re given a reason.
We still have Chris Sale
And the Sox will unveil
A lineup Hahn hopes we find pleasin’.


See you at the ballpark! :cheers:
Bravo!!!!! Bravo!!!!! :clap:

roylestillman
03-29-2014, 10:10 PM
Bravo!!!!! Bravo!!!!! :clap:
Couldn't agree more. That has been copied and sent off to a few people.

Some memories from my 38 Opening Days:

Best game: 1978 The aforementioned Blomberg home run. Tied with 2005 Buehrle 2 hitter.
Worst game: 1991. The first game at New Comiskey lost 16-0.
Coolest game: 2006. Banner raising ceremony.
Best pitching performance: 2005. Buehrle 2 hitter.
Best weather: 1985. Upper 70's. Tied with 2010 mid 70's and Sunny.
Worst weather: 1982 10 inch snowstorm cancels Opener Opener not played until April 17th.
Worst weather with game played: 1979. Low 30's drizzle and sleet.
Most bizarre day: 1992. Downtown freight tunnel flood.
Never saw that coming: 1988. Kenny Williams hits game winning home run.
Best play: 2010. Buehrle through his legs to Paulie's.
Grand slams: 1981 Fisk. 2008. Crede.
Biggest crowd: 1981 51,560.

Railsplitter
03-29-2014, 11:07 PM
Couldn't agree more. That has been copied and sent off to a few people.

Some memories from my 38 Opening Days:

Best game: 1978 The aforementioned Blomberg home run. Tied with 2005 Buehrle 2 hitter.
Worst game: 1991. The first game at New Comiskey lost 16-0.
Coolest game: 2006. Banner raising ceremony.
Best pitching performance: 2005. Buehrle 2 hitter.
Best weather: 1985. Upper 70's. Tied with 2010 mid 70's and Sunny.
Worst weather: 1982 10 inch snowstorm cancels Opener Opener not played until April 17th.
Worst weather with game played: 1979. Low 30's drizzle and sleet.
Most bizarre day: 1992. Downtown freight tunnel flood.
Never saw that coming: 1988. Kenny Williams hits game winning home run.
Best play: 2010. Buehrle through his legs to Paulie's.
Grand slams: 1981 Fisk. 2008. Crede.
Biggest crowd: 1981 51,560.

You had the good fortune to miss out on the streakers.

FielderJones
03-30-2014, 10:04 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/525x330/594809.jpg

day until #OpeningDay :bandance:

#1swisher
03-30-2014, 12:39 PM
Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien (https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien) 19m (https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/450306212278435841)

Just under 3,000 seats available for White Soxhome opener (supposed to be in the mid-60's tomorrow)