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10-10-2013, 07:37 PM
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doublem23
10-11-2013, 04:20 PM
Schedule:

Game 1 - at Boston - Saturday, October 12
Game 2 - at Boston - Sunday, October 13
Game 3 - at Detroit - Tuesday, October 15
Game 4 - at Detroit - Wednesday, October 16
Game 5 - at Detroit - Thursday, October 17
Game 6 - at Boston - Saturday, October 19
Game 7 - at Boston - Sunday, October 20

happydude
10-11-2013, 04:43 PM
Not usually anti-Boston but I've had more than enough of the Red Sox of late with their hockey beards and incessant "grittiness". Go Tigers!

SI1020
10-11-2013, 05:09 PM
Not usually anti-Boston but I've had more than enough of the Red Sox of late with their hockey beards and incessant "grittiness". Go Tigers! I have too but I picked them to win. I have absolutely no one left to root for. I don't particularly care for any of the 4 teams left in the playoffs, although I do admire the Cardinals organization.

DSpivack
10-11-2013, 06:14 PM
I would've picked meteor, but I assume it's a boring meteor made of rock and ice, and not a meteor made of churros.

Thus, I picked Detroit, they have better pitching.

SCCWS
10-11-2013, 08:58 PM
I always root against the Red Sox but I picked them for the series. They seem like a team of destiny right now. Saw the Peavy interview after the clincher and he raved about their team chemistry. I am sure he feels like he went from hell to heaven this season.

voodoochile
10-11-2013, 09:20 PM
I've thought the kittens were the team to beat for most of the year. That pitching staff in a 7 game series is all but unbeatable. The addition of Peavy for the Red Sox was good, but I think this is the Kittens' year.

Zakath
10-11-2013, 10:03 PM
I would have gone for "Earth opening up and swallowing entire stadium whole" but meteor will do.

voodoochile
10-11-2013, 10:26 PM
I would have gone for "Earth opening up and swallowing entire stadium whole" but meteor will do.

Well so long as it's Boston that takes the hit, Detroit could use a break...

Zakath
10-11-2013, 10:34 PM
Well so long as it's Boston that takes the hit, Detroit could use a break...

For Detroit, it could be an improvement...

16th&State
10-12-2013, 11:19 AM
I voted meteor...so long as neither Boston or Detroit win the Series...

gobears1987
10-12-2013, 01:11 PM
Does the meteor have TWTW?

TDog
10-12-2013, 07:36 PM
I would have gone for "Earth opening up and swallowing entire stadium whole" but meteor will do.

The earth opened up at Candlestick just before a World Series game in 1989, but it didn't keep the A's from winning their most recent World Series title. Unless a meteor triggered the end of American civilization as we know it, or labor issues surfaced, they would find a way to finish play it out, no matter how distasteful the opponents.

doublem23
10-12-2013, 10:56 PM
No hits allowed by Sanchez through 6 innings, but at 116 pitches, looks like Leyland is calling the bullpen to preserve Detroit's 1-0 lead

doublem23
10-12-2013, 11:06 PM
1-2-3 inning for Al Albuquerque

amsteel
10-12-2013, 11:28 PM
Joe West will have a one game lead after tonight.

ohthosechisox
10-12-2013, 11:40 PM
I feel like the Tigers are going to lose in the World Series again, but I would prefer a meteor.

soxnut1018
10-12-2013, 11:54 PM
I dislike West as much as the next guy, but he's actually had a pretty decent night. The Red Sox constant bitching is extremely tiring, though.

WhiteSox5187
10-13-2013, 12:13 AM
I dislike West as much as the next guy, but he's actually had a pretty decent night. The Red Sox constant bitching is extremely tiring, though.

I started watching in the 7th and as much as it pains me to admit, I thought he did a pretty good job.

This has been a great post-season. I hope both series go 7.

slavko
10-13-2013, 12:22 AM
What's the best game? C'mon, say it. It'll be gone in a few weeks and I'll miss it.

Yeah, West was OK. On the borderline pitch that K'ed Pedroia he was right, but he was wrong on ball 2 of that at bat that was a strike. Fox games use the strike zone graphic very sparingly so someone can look it up. Maybe I'm seeing wrong.

Brian26
10-13-2013, 12:40 AM
What's the best game? C'mon, say it. It'll be gone in a few weeks and I'll miss it.

Yeah, West was OK. On the borderline pitch that K'ed Pedroia he was right, but he was wrong on ball 2 of that at bat that was a strike. Fox games use the strike zone graphic very sparingly so someone can look it up. Maybe I'm seeing wrong.

The only one I thought he missed for sure was the Lester pitch early in the game. But, as soon as Lester walked over after the inning and did the whole "I'm not showing you up, even thought I'm showing you up" bit, I knew Boston wouldn't get another close call the entire night, which serves them right. The Ortiz and Victorino whining gets old quickly.

doublem23
10-13-2013, 12:46 AM
1st day in MLB post-season history there were 2 1-0 games.

This would have been the 1st combined no-hitter in postseason history and third overall (Larsen, Halladay). Only one other time has a postseason no-hitter been broken up in the 9th inning, Game 4 of the 1947 World Series:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BRO/BRO194710030.shtml

WhiteSox5187
10-13-2013, 01:04 AM
1st day in MLB post-season history there were 2 1-0 games.

This would have been the 1st combined no-hitter in postseason history and third overall (Larsen, Halladay). Only one other time has a postseason no-hitter been broken up in the 9th inning, Game 4 of the 1947 World Series:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BRO/BRO194710030.shtml

Holy moley! Bevins allowed one hit but TEN walks!

Wasn't there another World Series game between the Dodgers and Yankees where someone had a no-hitter going into the 9th but there was a dropped third strike and it allowed the runner to get on first and the next pitch was a base hit? I thought it was in 1941 but I might be making something up.

Bucky F. Dent
10-13-2013, 01:19 AM
Go Meteor!

TommyJohn
10-13-2013, 01:52 AM
Holy moley! Bevins allowed one hit but TEN walks!

Wasn't there another World Series game between the Dodgers and Yankees where someone had a no-hitter going into the 9th but there was a dropped third strike and it allowed the runner to get on first and the next pitch was a base hit? I thought it was in 1941 but I might be making something up.

I know the game you're talking about, but it wasn't a no-hitter. The Dodgers were up 4-3 with two outs in the 9th when Hugh Casey threw a third strike that Mickey Owen dropped, allowing Tommy Heinrich to reach 1st base. The Yankees then proceeded to ring up a 7-4 lead, which they held. Owen was labeled the "goat" but much later Casey admitted that the pitch he threw was an illegal spitball.

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10-13-2013, 01:54 PM
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happydude
10-13-2013, 02:06 PM
I dislike West as much as the next guy, but he's actually had a pretty decent night. The Red Sox constant bitching is extremely tiring, though.

Tell me about it. Aesthetically speaking, doing it with those beards makes it even more irritating. They cried from start to finish last night; such a sense of entitlement.

SI1020
10-13-2013, 02:56 PM
Tell me about it. Aesthetically speaking, doing it with those beards makes it even more irritating. They cried from start to finish last night; such a sense of entitlement. Many of their fans are the same way.

shes
10-13-2013, 08:51 PM
Not watching the ALCS, primarily because of Joe Buck. What can I say, the guy has ruined postseason baseball for me. The sound of his voice legitimately angers me.

WhiteSox5187
10-13-2013, 08:52 PM
Not watching the ALCS, primarily because of Joe Buck. What can I say, the guy has ruined postseason baseball for me. The sound of his voice legitimately angers me.

There is a mute button. You missed a great game last night.

Railsplitter
10-13-2013, 10:12 PM
The Carmines are closing the barn door after the horses have left.

SoxSpeed22
10-13-2013, 10:29 PM
There's the second hit of the series for the Carmines.
Edit: Third now, and first run. I think I would take Scherzer out after 6.

Boondock Saint
10-13-2013, 10:31 PM
I turned the game on one pitch before the no-no was broken up.

I'm taking credit for that ****.

soxnut1018
10-13-2013, 11:25 PM
Holy ****, Ortiz!

Brian26
10-13-2013, 11:25 PM
Torii Hunter wins the world with that move. Holy crap.

SoxandtheCityTee
10-13-2013, 11:28 PM
Strikeouts notwithstanding, sooner or later you need a bullpen.

(Well, there was that one ALCS that one time . . . )

thomas35forever
10-13-2013, 11:31 PM
I don't like Ortiz, but wow, that was legendary. Hunter going over the wall clinched it.

amsteel
10-13-2013, 11:32 PM
There's a reason it's not called the 'run as fast as you can and jump track', Torii.

Hell of an effort, though.

soxnut1018
10-13-2013, 11:38 PM
Boston's finest.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWge4_jIIAAIS3k.jpg

WLL1855
10-13-2013, 11:44 PM
Boston can choke on it. Clowns.

Rooting for the Tigers makes me want to take a shower but so long as the dbag Carmines exit I can stand it.

WhiteSox5187
10-13-2013, 11:45 PM
Boston can choke on it. Clowns.

Rooting for the Tigers makes me want to take a shower but so long as the dbag Carmines exit I can stand it.

I don't know if I would ever root for Boston.

Detroit choked. Benoit trying to sneak a fastball past Ortiz is inexcusably stupid.

AnkleSox
10-13-2013, 11:57 PM
Hopefully that deflates the Tigers and Boston can send them packing in 5.

I hate rooting for the fake sox but I can never bring myself to root for anything out of that cesspool in michigan.

samurai_sox
10-13-2013, 11:59 PM
I could imagine Jamie Burke watching the game and letting out a Nelson Ha Ha when Hunter went over the wall.

happydude
10-14-2013, 12:01 AM
Well that was unfortunate; almost had Boston on the ropes. Its hard to blame Benoit; he had no margin for error against a really good clutch hitter. I do wonder why Max got pulled; is 110 pitches (I think that's where he was) his limit or did he ask out? Its always a risk going to the pen.

Soxman219
10-14-2013, 12:14 AM
I should be happy that the Tigers choked, but for some reason I angry. I really don't like Boston fans, seeing them celebrate like that killed my vibe.

SBSoxFan
10-14-2013, 05:34 AM
There's a reason it's not called the 'run as fast as you can and jump track', Torii.

Hell of an effort, though.

Hunter's route to that ball was Rowand-esque. Then Hunter overran it to boot.

Detroit, 2005 called. When your starter is rolling don't take him out of the game.

**** Detroit.

SCCWS
10-14-2013, 10:16 AM
I should be happy that the Tigers choked, but for some reason I angry. I really don't like Boston fans, seeing them celebrate like that killed my vibe.

You had a problem at Fenway with their fans??? I have been to 15-20 White Sox games in Boston over the last 30+ years. I have never had a problem with Red Sox fans when rooting for the White Sox. They are passionate fans but are not aggressive toward opponent fans. Their typical crowd is a mother/father and a couple of kids. I have been to New York, Philly and LA and the crowds are much more aggressive toward opponent fans. I have been to Tampa numerous times but their fans----the few that show- are way too laid back. More like a tennis crowd w cowbells.

SI1020
10-14-2013, 10:17 AM
Hunter's route to that ball was Rowand-esque. Then Hunter overran it to boot.

Detroit, 2005 called. When your starter is rolling don't take him out of the game.

**** Detroit. Talk about ruining my morning. Years back a couple of prominent posters regularly trashed Rowand's fielding ability and started the criticism that Rowand is lousy defensively and takes bad routes to the ball. Since Rowand left the team the Sox have had trouble filling his shoes in CF. The one guy who had more natural ability than him didn't always bring his A game at bat and in the field for whatever reasons. As for the bad routes thing I remember a Sox outfielder, noted for his speed that would on occasion charge a ball that was clearly hit over his head. That is taking a bad route to a fly ball. Sometimes all an outfielder gets is a fraction of a fraction of a second to judge height, speed and trajectory. Last night Hunter admitted that he briefly lost the ball in the lights. The really good outfielders make those instantaneous adjustments that enable them to make difficult catches. That was a great effort by Torii Hunter. He deserves applause and credit not armchair scorn.

SCCWS
10-14-2013, 10:35 AM
Talk about ruining my morning. Years back a couple of prominent posters regularly trashed Rowand's fielding ability and started the criticism that Rowand is lousy defensively and takes bad routes to the ball. Since Rowand left the team the Sox have had trouble filling his shoes in CF. The one guy who had more natural ability than him didn't always bring his A game at bat and in the field for whatever reasons. As for the bad routes thing I remember a Sox outfielder, noted for his speed that would on occasion charge a ball that was clearly hit over his head. That is taking a bad route to a fly ball. Sometimes all an outfielder gets is a fraction of a fraction of a second to judge height, speed and trajectory. Last night Hunter admitted that he briefly lost the ball in the lights. The really good outfielders make those instantaneous adjustments that enable them to make difficult catches. That was a great effort by Torii Hunter. He deserves applause and credit not armchair scorn.

Agree. That was a line shot not a fly ball and it only took a few seconds for it to go out. Great effort by Hunter to even get close to making a play on it.

TDog
10-14-2013, 02:24 PM
Agree. That was a line shot not a fly ball and it only took a few seconds for it to go out. Great effort by Hunter to even get close to making a play on it.

I agree, but it seemed as the ball went past his glove that he always caught the ball in games against the White Sox during his Twins years. Maybe in the Metrodome, with the nature of the wall there, he would have made the catch.

I was reminded that the Red Sox before the 2011 season signed Carl Crawford to play left, and consensus was that it would help make the Red Sox unbeatable. They missed the 2011 wild card by one game, giving up two in the ninth while protecting a one-run lead on the last day of the season. The run that knocked them out of the postseason came on a line drive that many believed Crawford should have caught. That, though, was a routine play, not what would have been an I-don't-believe-what-I-just-saw play not completed by the free agent the Tigers signed before the season to put them over the top.

Of course, after not making the great play to end the inning and preserve a four-run lead, the Tigers lost the game through incompetent play. An infield single has the effect of a leadoff double because of an ill-advised throw to a first baseman who couldn't keep the ball from skipping past him. Then a wild pitch and the first baseman missing a popup in the stands, a routine popup compared to some of the aggressive in-the-stands catches made in the postseason in recent years, and then a ground ball through the drawn-in infield from the batter with new life.

The Tigers didn't lose many games because of their defense this year (a loss against the White Sox when Jackson had a bad day in center comes to mind), certainly not as many as they did in 2012. And teams that win a lot of games win games that they cold have lost if other teams had made the plays. It isn't so much luck. For one thing, the Red Sox put runs on the board Monday when they stopped striking out. But the Red Sox do seem to have capitalized on Scherzer coming out after seven. In the postseason, pitch counts should be irrelevant. If you are counting pitchers to save pitchers work for when it might matter most, this is what you've been saving them for. Ozzie Guillen didn't taken any chances with what he might have gotten out of the bullpen when his starters were rolling in the 2005 ALCS.

The upshot is, Tigers starters have no-hit their opponents through at least the first five innings of their last three games and it feels like the Red Sox are on a roll after the last two. The Tigers certainly could bounce back. Not that the Ortiz grand slam was as important as the three-run two-out eighth-inning Bernie Carbo home run in 1975, but the Red Sox lost the next night -- in Fenway -- after winning one of all-time great World Series games. Still after those last two innings in Fenway, the Tigers collectively have to feel they don't want this series to return to Boston.

SBSoxFan
10-14-2013, 02:58 PM
Talk about ruining my morning. Years back a couple of prominent posters regularly trashed Rowand's fielding ability and started the criticism that Rowand is lousy defensively and takes bad routes to the ball. Since Rowand left the team the Sox have had trouble filling his shoes in CF. The one guy who had more natural ability than him didn't always bring his A game at bat and in the field for whatever reasons. As for the bad routes thing I remember a Sox outfielder, noted for his speed that would on occasion charge a ball that was clearly hit over his head. That is taking a bad route to a fly ball. Sometimes all an outfielder gets is a fraction of a fraction of a second to judge height, speed and trajectory. Last night Hunter admitted that he briefly lost the ball in the lights. The really good outfielders make those instantaneous adjustments that enable them to make difficult catches. That was a great effort by Torii Hunter. He deserves applause and credit not armchair scorn.

I didn't mean to ruin your morning. I used the Rowand reference precisely because, as you noted, posters here regularly trashed Rowand's fielding ability. Perhaps I should have teal-ed it.

For whatever reason (lost it in the lights), he did not take a "proper" route to the ball, and he ended up overrunning the ball, a ball that was very catchable. My opinion is somewhat biased, however, and I'm being overly judgmental because I will never ever give Detroit applause for anything. :D:

slavko
10-14-2013, 06:01 PM
I didn't mean to ruin your morning. I used the Rowand reference precisely because, as you noted, posters here regularly trashed Rowand's fielding ability. Perhaps I should have teal-ed it.

For whatever reason (lost it in the lights), he did not take a "proper" route to the ball, and he ended up overrunning the ball, a ball that was very catchable. My opinion is somewhat biased, however, and I'm being overly judgmental because I will never ever give Detroit applause for anything. :D:

He overran it, the video just showed me. Maybe it was hit so hard it was "knuckling" like liners sometimes do.

Rowand's only problem, to me, was breaking back sometimes on balls hit in front of him.

lpneck
10-15-2013, 12:08 AM
But the Red Sox do seem to have capitalized on Scherzer coming out after seven. In the postseason, pitch counts should be irrelevant. If you are counting pitchers to save pitchers work for when it might matter most, this is what you've been saving them for. Ozzie Guillen didn't taken any chances with what he might have gotten out of the bullpen when his starters were rolling in the 2005 ALCS.

Scherzer threw 108 pitches. There is no way he is finishing the game, and even if he gets through the 8th you have set him up to throw 125 pitches or so at the end of the year with a huge potential game six start in 4 days. The bullpen has to hold a 4-run lead.

Ozzie and the 2005 ALCS starters are not relevant to the argument as none of the starters were in the same situation. Buehrle threw 99 pitches- he would have come out for the 10th if it had stayed tied. Garland 118, Garcia 116, and Contreras 114. Garland threw the most pitches, and he was at 91 after seven, not 108. Contreras was at 95 after 7 innings in a 3-3 game, and I remember thinking he would not finish. But the Sox scored in the 8th and he had an 8 pitch inning to allow him to have the chance to pitch the 9th.

TDog
10-15-2013, 06:00 AM
Scherzer threw 108 pitches. There is no way he is finishing the game, and even if he gets through the 8th you have set him up to throw 125 pitches or so at the end of the year with a huge potential game six start in 4 days. The bullpen has to hold a 4-run lead.

Ozzie and the 2005 ALCS starters are not relevant to the argument as none of the starters were in the same situation. Buehrle threw 99 pitches- he would have come out for the 10th if it had stayed tied. Garland 118, Garcia 116, and Contreras 114. Garland threw the most pitches, and he was at 91 after seven, not 108. Contreras was at 95 after 7 innings in a 3-3 game, and I remember thinking he would not finish. But the Sox scored in the 8th and he had an 8 pitch inning to allow him to have the chance to pitch the 9th.

Of course the bullpen should have been able to hold a four-run lead, but if Scherer show no signs of tiring, his pitch count was irrelevant.

SCCWS
10-15-2013, 08:34 AM
Of course the bullpen should have been able to hold a four-run lead, but if Scherer show no signs of tiring, his pitch count was irrelevant.

Not that it was applicable in this situation since Scherzer cruised but Dennis Eckersley has an interesting take on pitch count. He says you have to factor in stress pitching as part of total pitches. His point, which I found interesting , was a pitcher who is forced to pitch out of jams in a game will expend more energy than one who has an easier game but may throw more pitches.

SI1020
10-15-2013, 09:15 AM
Scherzer said "I was done." Or was he trying too hard to convince us?

http://www.macombdaily.com/sports/20131014/leyland-scherzer-was-spent

SephClone89
10-15-2013, 01:40 PM
I agree, but it seemed as the ball went past his glove that he always caught the ball in games against the White Sox during his Twins years. Maybe in the Metrodome, with the nature of the wall there, he would have made the catch.

I was reminded that the Red Sox before the 2011 season signed Carl Crawford to play left, and consensus was that it would help make the Red Sox unbeatable. They missed the 2011 wild card by one game, giving up two in the ninth while protecting a one-run lead on the last day of the season. The run that knocked them out of the postseason came on a line drive that many believed Crawford should have caught. That, though, was a routine play, not what would have been an I-don't-believe-what-I-just-saw play not completed by the free agent the Tigers signed before the season to put them over the top.

Of course, after not making the great play to end the inning and preserve a four-run lead, the Tigers lost the game through incompetent play. An infield single has the effect of a leadoff double because of an ill-advised throw to a first baseman who couldn't keep the ball from skipping past him. Then a wild pitch and the first baseman missing a popup in the stands, a routine popup compared to some of the aggressive in-the-stands catches made in the postseason in recent years, and then a ground ball through the drawn-in infield from the batter with new life.

The Tigers didn't lose many games because of their defense this year (a loss against the White Sox when Jackson had a bad day in center comes to mind), certainly not as many as they did in 2012. And teams that win a lot of games win games that they cold have lost if other teams had made the plays. It isn't so much luck. For one thing, the Red Sox put runs on the board Monday when they stopped striking out. But the Red Sox do seem to have capitalized on Scherzer coming out after seven. In the postseason, pitch counts should be irrelevant. If you are counting pitchers to save pitchers work for when it might matter most, this is what you've been saving them for. Ozzie Guillen didn't taken any chances with what he might have gotten out of the bullpen when his starters were rolling in the 2005 ALCS.

The upshot is, Tigers starters have no-hit their opponents through at least the first five innings of their last three games and it feels like the Red Sox are on a roll after the last two. The Tigers certainly could bounce back. Not that the Ortiz grand slam was as important as the three-run two-out eighth-inning Bernie Carbo home run in 1975, but the Red Sox lost the next night -- in Fenway -- after winning one of all-time great World Series games. Still after those last two innings in Fenway, the Tigers collectively have to feel they don't want this series to return to Boston.

I think you have the most distinctive posting style I've ever seen on a forum.

#1swisher
10-15-2013, 03:21 PM
Pregame 2:30 with A.J. Pierzynski

3:07 pm FOX
Game 3 - Boston at Detroit

Lackey v Verlander


http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/10/15/4841168/alcs-2013-tigers-red-sox-game-3-lineups

SephClone89
10-15-2013, 03:39 PM
Pregame 2:30 with A.J. Pierzynski

3:07 pm FOX
Game 3 - Boston at Detroit

Lackey v Verlander


http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/10/15/4841168/alcs-2013-tigers-red-sox-game-3-lineups

Actually, you have a pretty distinctive posting style as well. :redneck Always informative.

#1swisher
10-15-2013, 04:48 PM
Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier (https://twitter.com/alexspeier) The scoreboard is out. The lights are in the process of turning back on.


Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier (https://twitter.com/alexspeier)
Delay - Red Sox are walking off the field.

UPDATE:
Alex Speier ‏@alexspeier (https://twitter.com/alexspeier) 3m (https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/390219561074561024) Lights are back on, for what it's worth. Red Sox heading back on the field.

slavko
10-15-2013, 06:24 PM
Don't miss this classic pitcher's duel for the ages. Don't go home after work but stop at a friendly tavern with the TV's on.

RockJock07
10-15-2013, 06:25 PM
This is playoff big boy pitching. Lackey and Verlander have been dominate.

amsteel
10-15-2013, 06:33 PM
The Cardinals think Napoli's double high five after the home run was unprofessional.

amsteel
10-15-2013, 07:18 PM
I could definitely get used to seeing Miguel Cabrera striking out in big spots.

WhiteSox5187
10-15-2013, 07:24 PM
I could definitely get used to seeing Miguel Cabrera striking out in big spots.

He hasn't been the same player since he got hurt. What should be unnerving for Detroit is how useless Prince Fielder has looked since Cabrera has been hurt.

thomas35forever
10-15-2013, 07:56 PM
http://s.quickmeme.com/img/bf/bf1618d1bbf985caad5d1fe01fcd960c61868ac3c7debf2127 59d8ddfc933bf6.jpg
(http://www.quickmeme.com/caption#id=226344552&ext=jpg)

amsteel
10-15-2013, 08:39 PM
http://s.quickmeme.com/img/bf/bf1618d1bbf985caad5d1fe01fcd960c61868ac3c7debf2127 59d8ddfc933bf6.jpg
(http://www.quickmeme.com/caption#id=226344552&ext=jpg)

<3 This

SephClone89
10-15-2013, 09:11 PM
http://s.quickmeme.com/img/bf/bf1618d1bbf985caad5d1fe01fcd960c61868ac3c7debf2127 59d8ddfc933bf6.jpg
(http://www.quickmeme.com/caption#id=226344552&ext=jpg)[/URL]

<3 This

This tremendous feat has been achieved twice...but never in the same inning. Twice the White Sox have struck out Cabrera to end an inning, and then struck out Fielder to start the next one.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA201204140.shtml (http://www.quickmeme.com/caption#id=226344552&ext=jpg)
[url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET201207200.shtml

SBSoxFan
10-16-2013, 06:58 AM
Scherzer threw 108 pitches. There is no way he is finishing the game, and even if he gets through the 8th you have set him up to throw 125 pitches or so at the end of the year with a huge potential game six start in 4 days. The bullpen has to hold a 4-run lead.

Ozzie and the 2005 ALCS starters are not relevant to the argument as none of the starters were in the same situation. Buehrle threw 99 pitches- he would have come out for the 10th if it had stayed tied. Garland 118, Garcia 116, and Contreras 114. Garland threw the most pitches, and he was at 91 after seven, not 108. Contreras was at 95 after 7 innings in a 3-3 game, and I remember thinking he would not finish. But the Sox scored in the 8th and he had an 8 pitch inning to allow him to have the chance to pitch the 9th.

And Verlander threw 120 last night.

Scherzer said "I was done." Or was he trying too hard to convince us?

http://www.macombdaily.com/sports/20131014/leyland-scherzer-was-spent

Leyland said the same thing in the post-game comments. Maybe Scherzer didn't pitch enough during the regular season.

happydude
10-16-2013, 01:05 PM
He hasn't been the same player since he got hurt. What should be unnerving for Detroit is how useless Prince Fielder has looked since Cabrera has been hurt.

He wasn't playing up to his contract even before Miggy got hurt; his numbers are down across the board. He's going through a divorce and there has been speculation that that is the cause of his less than stellar season.

#1swisher
10-16-2013, 02:34 PM
7:07pm FOX
Game 4 - Boston at Detroit

Peavy v Fister

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/815647709.jpg?1381944912

jdm2662
10-16-2013, 03:25 PM
He wasn't playing up to his contract even before Miggy got hurt; his numbers are down across the board. He's going through a divorce and there has been speculation that that is the cause of his less than stellar season.

My brother used to live on the same floor as Prince many years ago. He seemed close to his family. Such instances always messes with your head.

amsteel
10-16-2013, 10:59 PM
Nice to see Peavy bulldog his way to 7 ER in 3IP in the biggest start of his career.

Huisj
10-16-2013, 11:03 PM
Nice to see Peavy bulldog his way to 7 ER in 3IP in the biggest start of his career.

Back on track to his playoff norm after his unusual decent start against TB.

SOX ADDICT '73
10-16-2013, 11:20 PM
At least Tigers fans now have a reason to be happy about trading away Avisail Garcia.

slavko
10-17-2013, 12:13 AM
Somebody got a hit and he started aiming the ball, trying to hit corners, lost his radar, had to take something off his already diminished stuff to throw strikes. We've seen it all before.

Big hat, no cattle, at least tonight.

#1swisher
10-17-2013, 06:59 PM
7PM FOX

Game 5 Boston at Detroit

Lester v Sanchez


Tarp is off at Comerica Park, where the rain stopped a while ago. Cloudy and cold, but dry.

amsteel
10-17-2013, 08:31 PM
That's up there with the worst call third base coach calls of all time

If this is the NFL Cabrera is assessed a 15 yard penalty for a blow to the head on Napoli for that elbow. What an *******.

amsteel
10-17-2013, 08:35 PM
Napoli's HR practically landed in Windsor

slavko
10-18-2013, 01:05 AM
The umpire interference didn't affect the game, thank heaven. A fine game it was, too.

happydude
10-18-2013, 03:24 AM
That's up there with the worst call third base coach calls of all time

If this is the NFL Cabrera is assessed a 15 yard penalty for a blow to the head on Napoli for that elbow. What an *******.

Yep. He did put up the stop sign immediately afterwards but Miggy kept going. Who the hell would wave Cabrera around from second on a single to left in any circumstance? Even without the groin and abdominal issues he's overweight and slow. The guy was out by a country mile; what a rally killer.

SBSoxFan
10-18-2013, 08:56 AM
The umpire interference didn't affect the game, thank heaven. A fine game it was, too.

Or Fielder's bad throw; it depends on your perspective.

voodoochile
10-19-2013, 10:51 PM
Heck of a job to pitch out of that by Scherzer. That K pitch to Napoli would have rung up 95% of the batters in the league and the ones who it wouldn't have would only be because they were two frozen to swing.

Brian26
10-19-2013, 11:29 PM
Damn. That's probably game. Rematch of the 2004 WS.

102605
10-19-2013, 11:31 PM
brutal...I can't stand STL or Boston. Not going to be able to watch that.

Bucky F. Dent
10-19-2013, 11:33 PM
I feel like Dean Wormer after the Deltas trashed the homecoming parade.

Brian26
10-19-2013, 11:35 PM
I cannot believe I feel bad for Detroit, LOL.

asindc
10-19-2013, 11:36 PM
Well, one thing is for sure: Scherzer twice failed to pitch well enough to win in this series.

mahagga73
10-19-2013, 11:37 PM
brutal...I can't stand STL or Boston. Not going to be able to watch that.

Can't imagine why any White Sox fan would have anything against the Cardinals.

ZombieRob
10-19-2013, 11:37 PM
Hahaha Poor Illitch maybe next year

ZombieRob
10-19-2013, 11:38 PM
Can't imagine why any White Sox fan would have anything against the Cardinals.
Yea they are the Model franchise. I'd love the Sox to emulate them

mahagga73
10-19-2013, 11:41 PM
Fielder has no RBI in last 85 postseason AB or something, now that is brutal, wow.

Soxman219
10-19-2013, 11:42 PM
Go Cards GO!

I love it! Tigers spend, spend, and spend and still haven't won a World Series. I hope their fans are devastated and sad.

Zakath
10-19-2013, 11:42 PM
Except for two grannies, Detroit might be hosting Game 1 on Wednesday.

Sucks to be them. Lose the ALCS AND have to call Detroit home...

mahagga73
10-19-2013, 11:45 PM
Leyland will not let Scherzer go past 7 ever and it's cost them 2 slams and a trip home.

Brian26
10-19-2013, 11:46 PM
Hahaha Poor Illitch maybe next year

I've been joking that Illitch is crazy enough to go sign McCann and Cano this winter.

DSpivack
10-19-2013, 11:47 PM
I've been joking that Illitch is crazy enough to go sign McCann and Cano this winter.
Or as I saw on twitter, offer Mariano $260 million to pitch in 2014. :tongue:

Brian26
10-19-2013, 11:51 PM
Or as I saw on twitter, offer Mariano $260 million to pitch in 2014. :tongue:

:rolling:

mahagga73
10-19-2013, 11:55 PM
Leyland and his overmanaging are going to be the goat of this series.

ZombieRob
10-19-2013, 11:56 PM
I've been joking that Illitch is crazy enough to go sign McCann and Cano this winter.
I wouldn't doubt it. If he was any other team owner I'd root for him. I just detest Detroit

Brian26
10-20-2013, 12:04 AM
LOL, is Matt Thornton even on the playoff roster? WAGS on the field now.

Soxman219
10-20-2013, 12:12 AM
I've been joking that Illitch is crazy enough to go sign McCann and Cano this winter.

And they would lose in the Divisional Round. It's hilarious how Detroit has spent over 400 million (I think) the last few years and still haven't won a World Series.

amsteel
10-20-2013, 12:27 AM
Congrats Detroit Tigers on the 2014 AL Central title.

If I could sum up this series with one made up word it would be LOLTigersBullpen. If I'm a Tigs fan I'm PISSED. It's been obvious for 2 years that the bullpen is their weakness and it cost them. Again.

slavko
10-20-2013, 01:08 AM
Scherzer had thrown enough pitches to be pulled, 110. I have been raving about Veras's stuff all post-season but he threw one too many curve balls in a row. I can't say I'm unhappy about this series outcome since I'm not a BoSox hater.

If we want Detroit to ever get their WS, we'd all better send out for pizza right now. :smile:

StillMissOzzie
10-20-2013, 01:30 AM
Scherzer had thrown enough pitches to be pulled, 110. I have been raving about Veras's stuff all post-season but he threw one too many curve balls in a row. I can't say I'm unhappy about this series outcome since I'm not a BoSox hater.

If we want Detroit to ever get their WS, we'd all better send out for pizza right now. :smile:

If Scherzer didn't get ****ed in the ass on that missed strike 3 call to Bogaerts (sp?) this game might have been a lot different. But he was, and it is not.

SMO
:gulp:

voodoochile
10-20-2013, 01:35 AM
Except for two grannies, Detroit might be hosting Game 1 on Wednesday.

Sucks to be them. Lose the ALCS AND have to call Detroit home...

In the end their offense and starting pitching weren't enough to overcome their defensive deficiencies and their mediocre bullpen...

happydude
10-20-2013, 03:53 AM
In the end their offense and starting pitching weren't enough to overcome their defensive deficiencies and their mediocre bullpen...

Bottom line. Even Iglesias ****ed up with the glove. I was pulling for the Tigers but the Red Sox, like the Cardinals, just keep coming. I'll be pulling for them in the Series; I just can't stand the Cardinals unless they're playing the Cubs.

harwar
10-20-2013, 10:45 AM
If Scherzer didn't get ****ed in the ass on that missed strike 3 call to Bogaerts (sp?) this game might have been a lot different. But he was, and it is not.

SMO
:gulp:

Yea, he made the perfect pitch right there, but didn't get the call .. i've seen Greg Maddux get that call a thousand times, but then again, Max Scherzer isn't Greg Maddux..

harwar
10-20-2013, 10:50 AM
In the end their offense and starting pitching weren't enough to overcome their defensive deficiencies and their mediocre bullpen...

I never expected the black hole that, Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder became, to happen .. i realize that Cabrera is hobbled, but he looked Adam Dunnish up there, and Fielder was just lost .. i don't really care though, don't like the red sox or the tigers so..

WhiteSox5187
10-20-2013, 01:33 PM
Yea, he made the perfect pitch right there, but didn't get the call .. i've seen Greg Maddux get that call a thousand times, but then again, Max Scherzer isn't Greg Maddux..

Scherzer wasn't getting a lot on the outside corner but the Red Sox certainly were. Either way, the Tigers just sucked at every aspect of the game besides starting pitching. Prince Fielder especially looked abysmal.

Hitmen77
10-20-2013, 05:25 PM
ESPN must be ecstatic. Another World Series featuring either New York or Boston. I guess the World Series is relevant again this year.