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Marqhead
09-03-2013, 10:49 PM
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=330903108&teams=pittsburgh-pirates-vs-milwaukee-brewers

First non-losing season in 20 years. My oh my.

Railsplitter
09-04-2013, 08:09 AM
Arr, 'tis good to see the Pirates winning. :wink:

Moses_Scurry
09-04-2013, 08:23 AM
Now win the World Series!!

Hitmen77
09-04-2013, 09:56 AM
It's a shame that a franchise with such a rich, winning history during the Clemente/Stargell era has had to endure such a long stretch of futility.

I'm glad to see them succeed this year.

BleacherBandit
09-04-2013, 11:22 AM
Now they just have to make the playoffs.

happydude
09-04-2013, 05:57 PM
I've still got a soft spot in my heart for the Bucs from the 1979 "We Are Family" team that won it all. Absent what would amount to a monumental collapse they'll get in the playoffs; hopefully as the division winner. In fact, its highly likely the top 3 in that division will get in...

chicagowhitesox1
09-04-2013, 07:18 PM
They actually went on a pretty long drought without making the postseason from 1928 until 1960. The 1925 and 1927 Pirates have gotta be one of my favorite non whitesox teams though.

HomeFish
09-04-2013, 08:09 PM
The only thing keeping me from jumping onto this feel-good story is the knowledge in the back of my mind that many Pirates fans are also Steeler fans.

StillMissOzzie
09-05-2013, 02:08 AM
I hope that they run away with the division title. An then some...

SMO
:gulp:

Ex-Chicagoan
09-05-2013, 07:33 AM
I remember winning seasons...

Mr. Jinx
09-06-2013, 08:47 AM
the only thing keeping me from jumping onto this feel-good story is the knowledge in the back of my mind that many pirates fans are also steeler fans.

+1

I hope they fall apart and miss the playoffs.

Zakath
09-06-2013, 09:13 AM
Now they just have to make the playoffs.

All three of the NL Central leaders are going to get in; it just depends on the order.

Pirates open a HUGE 3-game series in St. Louis tonight, the last time they see them this season, and have to follow that up with 3 in Texas, who is in their own dogfight, again, with Oakland in the AL West. After that, they come home for 4 with the Cubs, 4 with the Padres, and 3 with the Reds before finishing on the road with 3 in Chicago and 3 in Cincinnati.

Cardinals follow the Pirates with 3 at home vs. Milwaukee and 3 vs. Seattle, before they go to Colorado for 4 and Milwaukee for 3. They finish at home with Washington for 3 and the Cubs for 3. Must be nice at this point in the season to only have 7 road games left.

The Reds, who still have a shot at this, host the Dodgers and Cubs for 3 each, go to Milwaukee, Houston, and Pittsburgh for 3 each, before finishing at home with the Mets and Pirates for 3 each.

Schedule advantage definitely goes to the Cards, who won't see a playoff team the entire last two weeks of the season.

As far as tiebreakers go, the Pirates will win the tiebreaker with St. Louis (they're up 10-6 now and can be no worse than 10-9) and right now lead the tiebreaker with Cincinnati (7-6 with 6 to play). St. Louis wins the tiebreaker with Cincinnati (11-8).

Hitmen77
09-06-2013, 10:35 AM
The only thing keeping me from jumping onto this feel-good story is the knowledge in the back of my mind that many Pirates fans are also Steeler fans.

By that logic, I suppose I should hate the Bears, Bulls, and Blackhawks because most of their fans are Cubs fans.

doublem23
09-06-2013, 10:36 AM
By that logic, I suppose I should hate the Bears, Bulls, and Blackhawks because most of their fans are Cubs fans.

Steeler fans are worse than Cubs fans. Way worse.

Bobby Thigpen
09-06-2013, 11:27 AM
The 1925 and 1927 Pirates have gotta be one of my favorite non whitesox teams though.
How exactly do you determine which teams that there's really no chance you ever saw play are your "favorites"?

Bobby Thigpen
09-06-2013, 11:28 AM
Steeler fans are worse than Cubs fans. Way worse.
Meh. Went to a Bears/Steelers game a few years ago and Steelers fans were in no way any more annoying than Bears fans.

doublem23
09-06-2013, 12:24 PM
Meh. Went to a Bears/Steelers game a few years ago and Steelers fans were in no way any more annoying than Bears fans.

I would guess the portion of Steelers Nation that can afford a ticket to an NFL game represents the distinct minority of that group of trashbags

MeteorsSox4367
09-06-2013, 12:59 PM
Steeler fans are worse than Cubs fans. Way worse.

Painting with a broad brush, Doub. I've been a Steelers fan since I was a little kid and I'm not that big a scumbag.:D:

Hitmen77
09-06-2013, 01:03 PM
Steeler fans are worse than Cubs fans. Way worse.

I'll agree with that when I start hearing Steelers fans talk crap to me on a regular basis about attendance numbers, curses, scapegoats, how "nobody cared" when my team won the championship, etc.

I would guess the portion of Steelers Nation that can afford a ticket to an NFL game represents the distinct minority of that group of trashbags

On the other hand, I have to wonder how many Steelers fans are really big time Pirates fans. Lots of football fans don't give a **** about baseball. Plus, the Steelers have a national following and plenty of their fans aren't even from Pittsburgh.

Yes, there's some overlap, but I just think it's silly to hate the Pirates because of Steelers fans being total jackasses.

MeteorsSox4367
09-06-2013, 01:19 PM
On the other hand, I have to wonder how many Steelers fans are really big time Pirates fans. Lots of football fans don't give a **** about baseball. Plus, the Steelers have a national following and plenty of their fans aren't even from Pittsburgh.

Yes, there's some overlap, but I just think it's silly to hate the Pirates because of Steelers fans being total jackasses.

I guess I would be an exception to the rule. I've been a Steelers fan since I was a little kid and the Pirates are my favorite NL team. I remember some about Clemente, but it was the Stargell - "We Are Family" era that drew my interest.

Even though I'm a lifelong Chicagoan, I've always liked the Pittsburgh teams. The Pirates will never replace the Sox atop my list, nor the Penguins instead of the Hawks, but I just like Pittsburgh teams.

chicagowhitesox1
09-06-2013, 01:28 PM
Pittsburgh only averaged 17,722 fans when they last won a World Series in 1979. The Whitesox averaged 16,622 in 1979. I can't say I feel to sorry for most Pirate fans. The Pirates during the 1970's never even averaged 20.000 fans and they won two World Series and 6 NL East Championships. The Whitesox with zero Pennants at least averaged 20,000 fans in 1977. It's nice to see them win but i'd rather see the Yankee's or Redsox win than have some football town with a bunch of fair weather baseball fans win.

Moses_Scurry
09-06-2013, 01:28 PM
I'll agree with that when I start hearing Steelers fans talk crap to me on a regular basis about attendance numbers, curses, scapegoats, how "nobody cared" when my team won the championship, etc.



On the other hand, I have to wonder how many Steelers fans are really big time Pirates fans. Lots of football fans don't give a **** about baseball. Plus, the Steelers have a national following and plenty of their fans aren't even from Pittsburgh.

Yes, there's some overlap, but I just think it's silly to hate the Pirates because of Steelers fans being total jackasses.

I'd guess it's pretty likely that 99% of Pirates fans are also Steeler fans though, which was Homefish's point in the first place.

doublem23
09-06-2013, 01:32 PM
Pittsburgh only averaged 17,722 fans when they last won a World Series in 1979. The Whitesox averaged 16,622 in 1979. I can't say I feel to sorry for most Pirate fans. The Pirates during the 1970's never even averaged 20.000 fans and they won two World Series and 6 NL East Championships. The Whitesox with zero Pennants at least averaged 20,000 fans in 1977. It's nice to see them win but i'd rather see the Yankee's or Redsox win than have some football town with a bunch of fair weather baseball fans win.

Chicago was almost 7x more populous than Pittsburgh during the post-WWII Industrial heyday

chicagowhitesox1
09-06-2013, 01:45 PM
Chicago was almost 7x more populous than Pittsburgh during the post-WWII Industrial heyday

Cincinnati and Kansas City probably have comparable populations to Pittsburgh and thier fans showed up during the 70's.

Hitmen77
09-06-2013, 03:37 PM
Pittsburgh only averaged 17,722 fans when they last won a World Series in 1979. The Whitesox averaged 16,622 in 1979. I can't say I feel to sorry for most Pirate fans. The Pirates during the 1970's never even averaged 20.000 fans and they won two World Series and 6 NL East Championships. The Whitesox with zero Pennants at least averaged 20,000 fans in 1977. It's nice to see them win but i'd rather see the Yankee's or Redsox win than have some football town with a bunch of fair weather baseball fans win.

I don't think we really can blame today's fans for attendance numbers from 35 years ago. How old are those fans from 1977 today? 60? 70? It was a different era and essentially a different generation of fans.

I also vaguely remember that the AL and NL counted attendance differently back then. I might be wrong about this, but I want to say the AL counted ticket sales while the NL only counted the number of people who went through the turnstyles.

Even if 1970s ticket sales were relevant, as fans who have had the "attendance" issue waved in our face by stupid Cubs fans over the years, I'm not interested in throwing the attendance issue at the Pirates.

I'd guess it's pretty likely that 99% of Pirates fans are also Steeler fans though, which was Homefish's point in the first place.

...and, as I said earlier, based on that logic, I should hate the Bears because it's pretty likely that 90% (or whatever) Cubs fans are also Bears fans.

At any rate, I guess I'm not NFL-centric like most people are and I feel like I can root for the Pirates (or whatever other MLB team) without worrying about what football team is from the same city.

Can we just make this thread about the Pirates and baseball instead of making everything revolve around the NFL? :shrug:

HomeFish
09-06-2013, 10:21 PM
I'm not trying to make things about the NFL. Baseball is my #1 sport, NFL is a very distant #3 (behind college football). But the Steelers are just a fanbase I've found unbearable, perhaps because the area I currently live in is the bandwagon Steelers fan capital of the world. Also, I was on the Cardinals bandwagon for that one playoff run where the Steelers finally beat them.

Mr. Jinx
09-07-2013, 07:43 AM
Steeler fans are worse than Cubs fans. Way worse.

Yeah, they aren't even comparable. Most obnoxious POS fans around.

Zakath
09-07-2013, 11:06 PM
Pirates drop the first two games in St. Louis to hand the division lead back to the Cardinals, and the Reds are now only 1 1/2 out of first after taking the first two from the Dodgers.

Bucs really need a win on Sunday to stop the bleeding.

cub killer
09-08-2013, 08:44 PM
Yeah, they aren't even comparable. Most obnoxious POS fans around.Nah, cub fans are way worse. Steeler fans at least have the hardware to back up their trash talking. cub fans have nothing since 1908. Worst streak in all sports.

Steeler fans can swag all they want, they did work when they had to.

happydude
09-09-2013, 11:14 AM
Nah, cub fans are way worse. Steeler fans at least have the hardware to back up their trash talking. cub fans have nothing since 1908. Worst streak in all sports.

Steeler fans can swag all they want, they did work when they had to.

Absolutely.

happydude
09-09-2013, 11:20 AM
The Bucs look like the third best team in this three team race to the finish right now after the disastrous weekend in St. Louis. Its a very common type of slump, initiated by abysmal starting or relief pitching. In their case, they have no starter on that staff they seem to be able to turn to right now to get going again. They're having trouble just getting a few innings out of these guys.
And now they gotta go to Texas. Gulp...

doublem23
09-09-2013, 11:31 AM
Nah, cub fans are way worse. Steeler fans at least have the hardware to back up their trash talking. cub fans have nothing since 1908. Worst streak in all sports.

Steeler fans can swag all they want, they did work when they had to.

Oh god please, fans don't "earn" anything, it's all a matter of luck (or in the case of many Steeler fans, just being a bandwagon frontrunner).

If I was stuck on a desert island with a Cub fan and a Steeler fan and had a gun with two bullets, I'd shoot the Steeler fan twice. And probably pistol whip him a little bit for good measure.

doublem23
09-23-2013, 11:46 PM
By virtue of a 2-1 win over the Cubs tonight, the Pirates have clinched at the very least an NL Wild Card berth and round out the NL playoff field. Pittsburgh and Cincinnati both trail the Cardinals by 2 games and all that's left is to see which of these three win the division and which 2 will meet in the NL Wild Card Game. But another 21-year drought ends.

MUsoxfan
09-23-2013, 11:49 PM
I'm a full-on Pirates fan for the rest of the year. I think it's a great story. Plus, that ballpark deserves playoff games

Zakath
09-24-2013, 06:46 AM
By virtue of a 2-1 win over the Cubs tonight, the Pirates have clinched at the very least an NL Wild Card berth and round out the NL playoff field. Pittsburgh and Cincinnati both trail the Cardinals by 2 games and all that's left is to see which of these three win the division and which 2 will meet in the NL Wild Card Game. But another 21-year drought ends.

With the Cardinals finishing up with the Cubs and the Pirates and Reds playing each other in Cincinnati, it's hard to see how St. Louis blows this (but, stranger things have happened).

aryzner
09-24-2013, 08:22 AM
I am now officially rooting for an A's-Pirates World Series.

PaleHoser
09-24-2013, 10:13 AM
How fitting that the Pirates clinched their post-season spot with a play at the plate. Take that Sid Bream!

thomas35forever
09-24-2013, 11:57 AM
Way to go, Bucs. You've given all underdog rooters someone to pull for this postseason.

SOXSINCE'70
09-25-2013, 08:36 AM
Way to go, Bucs. You've given all underdog rooters someone to pull for this postseason.

:thumbsup::yup:

Hitmen77
10-01-2013, 11:00 PM
The Pirates advance to the NLDS to face the Cardinals.

Noneck
10-01-2013, 11:06 PM
When I see Pittsburgh I think of the blind squirrel that will eventually find a buried acorn.

Soxman219
10-02-2013, 06:25 PM
That crowd was awesome!

Zakath
10-04-2013, 03:17 PM
Even up heading back to Pittsburgh.

Actually thinks it hurts the Cardinals (as well as the Red Sux) being the top seed and having to see a division opponent in the divisional round.