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#1swisher
08-16-2013, 02:09 PM
Comcast SportsNet ‏ (https://twitter.com/CSNPhilly)
Sources tell @JSalisburyCSN (https://twitter.com/JSalisburyCSN) Charlie Manuel's out as Phillies manager.

http://CSNPhilly.com (http://t.co/WS3BeA3E8O) will stream 2:30 presser http://ow.ly/nZXDG (http://t.co/7Aph9utFMJ)

JIM BOWDEN ‏ (https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm)
[/URL][URL="https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm/status/368430219385778176"] (https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm) Jim Salisbury of http://CSNPhilly.com (http://t.co/Y93e5oxjQ2) reports Phillies will fire manager Charlie Manuel....who else is on hot seat? http://insider.espn.go.com (http://t.co/YTLAF0FyLJ)

thomas35forever
08-16-2013, 02:16 PM
Surprised it took them this long. Might be another year or two before Philly is competitive again.

Tragg
08-16-2013, 02:16 PM
The Phillies will probably take (one of the guys who should be considered for) our next manager.

I found this an interesting statement.

"Dipoto is one of the bright young minds in the game. The problem is that he hasnít been able to carry out his vision for the Angels because most of his moves have backfired."

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-gms-office/post?id=7473

Hmmm

eriqjaffe
08-16-2013, 02:31 PM
The Phillies will probably take (one of the guys who should be considered for) our next manager.Rumors are around that the Phils will hand the reins to Ryne Sandberg.

Vernam
08-16-2013, 02:59 PM
Rumors are around that the Phils will hand the reins to Ryne Sandberg.

Good call: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-phillies-manuel-ryne-sandberg-20130816,0,4578290.story

Tragg
08-16-2013, 03:42 PM
Rumors are around that the Phils will hand the reins to Ryne Sandberg.
Exactly.

ohiosoxfan
08-16-2013, 04:06 PM
"Dipoto is one of the bright young minds in the game. The problem is that he hasnít been able to carry out his vision for the Angels because most of his moves have backfired."

"That's gold, Jerry; GOLD!" said Kenny Bania

Wedema
08-16-2013, 04:23 PM
Couldn't read the rest of the hot seat list-- wonder if Robin was on it?

mrfourni
08-16-2013, 04:30 PM
With his connections to the 1990's era Indians, I would expect Charlie Manual to manage the White Sox next year. Jerry/Kenny are running out of people from that organization to hire.

DSpivack
08-16-2013, 04:46 PM
I don't think Manuel was the problem there, Ruben Amaro is. Perhaps not too unlike the White Sox of the recent past, they're holding on to a core that is increasingly older, more expensive, and on the decline. The difference being that their core was both better and thus much more expensive to maintain.

JB98
08-17-2013, 12:26 AM
Couldn't read the rest of the hot seat list-- wonder if Robin was on it?

No. Redmond and Gibbons.

I don't think Ventura's seat is hot.

mzh
08-19-2013, 01:02 PM
I don't have any objections to Robin at this point, but even so, I would LOVE to see Charlie Manuel managing the White Sox.

JB98
08-19-2013, 03:12 PM
I don't have any objections to Robin at this point, but even so, I would LOVE to see Charlie Manuel managing the White Sox.

Only if we had a veteran team. Manuel is 69 years old. He might be the right short-term fix for a team that is looking to win it all in 2014. Maybe the Nationals. The Sox will probably be fielding a younger group next year. It will likely be a transitional season. Robin is probably a better fit to manage a group like that than the team we've had the past two years.

mzh
08-19-2013, 04:06 PM
Only if we had a veteran team. Manuel is 69 years old. He might be the right short-term fix for a team that is looking to win it all in 2014. Maybe the Nationals. The Sox will probably be fielding a younger group next year. It will likely be a transitional season. Robin is probably a better fit to manage a group like that than the team we've had the past two years.
This is true, but then again, Jack McKeon did a hell of a job with the 2003 Marlins and he was no spring chicken either. But yes, I think Robin will be fine with the type of team we'll be fielding in the near future.

Noneck
08-19-2013, 04:09 PM
I don't have any objections to Robin at this point, but even so, I would LOVE to see Charlie Manuel managing the White Sox.

The only managers with MLB experience under this ownership were Torborg and Fregosi, both were on the cheap. Charlie Manuel will cost, it wont happen.

Brewski
08-19-2013, 09:30 PM
The only managers with MLB experience under this ownership were Torborg and Fregosi, both were on the cheap. Charlie Manuel will cost, it wont happen.

If the Phillies are going young and didn't want Manuel, why would we? That said, I would prefer Sandberg to Ventura, or at least I would have 2 years ago.

Noneck
08-19-2013, 11:32 PM
That said, I would prefer Sandberg to Ventura, or at least I would have 2 years ago.

Maybe but something still stinks about sandberg. A HOFer that started at the bottom, worked his way up, did a good job at every level and cant get a managers job yet at the age of 53. Something just doesnt jive.

Brewski
08-20-2013, 10:15 AM
Maybe but something still stinks about sandberg. A HOFer that started at the bottom, worked his way up, did a good job at every level and cant get a managers job yet at the age of 53. Something just doesnt jive.

He was out of baseball for a long time after his playing days. He never managed until he was age 47 when he started in A ball with the Cubs organization and rapidly climbed the ladder until he was poised to get the ML job but Quade who had turned the club around after Lou wandered off got the job instead.

So he had to restart the clock with the Phillies and it's only been 3 years there and he has the ML job, albeit on an interim basis.

But you're correct in that he could have been nabbed by some other team at any time and wasn't.