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Fastball23
07-09-2013, 10:16 AM
I can't wait to see the firesale start. My prediction it will be Jeff Keppinger.

sox1970
07-09-2013, 10:26 AM
If the Red Sox really want Matt Thornton, it could happen this week for relatively nothing. It would basically be a salary dump for a low-level minor leaguer.

SoxSpeed22
07-09-2013, 10:27 AM
I would go with Thorny for the first guy traded. He can still get lefties out, but the Red Sox have too much leverage, so I'm not expecting much of a return.

SCCWS
07-09-2013, 11:22 AM
Thornton to Boston for Curt Shilling's bloody sock and a Carlton Fisk jersey.

cws05champ
07-09-2013, 12:28 PM
Jesse Crain....I know he is on the DL but I think he will go first.

russ99
07-09-2013, 12:31 PM
No poll?

My vote is Rios, shortly after the all-star break.

DumpJerry
07-09-2013, 12:51 PM
I hear the Churros vendor has been checking out real estate in Boston.....

Tragg
07-09-2013, 01:06 PM
Lindstrom

KingXerxes
07-09-2013, 02:09 PM
I hear the Churros vendor has been checking out real estate in Boston.....

Hopefully he can take a certain announcer with him to so as to reunite said announcer with his beloved Carmines.

hawkjt
07-09-2013, 03:59 PM
In order:

1. Thornton- he is healthy.
2. Lindstrom- take longer because he is worth haggling over.
3. Rios- another guy who should fetch something.
4. Keppinger- please.
5. Alexei- its time.
6. Crain- when he is off the dL.
7. Peavy- see above.
8. Dunn....desperate times calls for desperate moves by a contender.

Boondock Saint
07-09-2013, 04:01 PM
I hear the Churros vendor has been checking out real estate in Boston.....

Even that guy's been ****ing up. Churros have been stale as hell.

billyvsox
07-09-2013, 04:08 PM
The way this organization is going, they will probably trade Sale and Phegley first

eriqjaffe
07-09-2013, 04:12 PM
The way this organization is going, they will probably trade Sale and Phegley firstThey'll trade Phegley to, say, Toronto for a no-talent AAAA player, and then trade Sale to the Jays 3 days later to get Phegley back.

RCWHITESOX
07-09-2013, 04:15 PM
How about Ventura? He is still probably their best position player { retired ] that can actually hit and field.

tstrike2000
07-09-2013, 04:37 PM
Rios, Thornton, or Crain, any of those three could be dealt first.

BigKlu59
07-09-2013, 04:51 PM
Knowing the Sox... Peavy, Beckham, Rios, TCM and Tank for a bag of peanuts, 6 AAAAA Flopects and a bat weight..

Thorton would look good in Carmines... He would also increase the dent count in the Green Monster by a couple hundred dinks.. Of course the BoSox would trade us a seafood platter in return..

BK59

soxfanreggie
07-09-2013, 06:35 PM
Thornton because Crain isn't healthy.

Hartman
07-09-2013, 06:55 PM
My prediction is absolutely nothing will happen. Not one player will be moved.

Noneck
07-09-2013, 07:42 PM
My prediction is absolutely nothing will happen. Not one player will be moved.

Thats a 1000-1 shot prediction. They will trade or basically just dump for salary purposes.

Harry Potter
07-09-2013, 08:49 PM
It should be DeAza - rather DFA'd after yet another head up his ass play on the basepaths tonight :angry:

Fastball23
07-09-2013, 08:52 PM
It should be DeAza - rather DFA'd after yet another head up his ass play on the basepaths tonight :angry:

I hope Wise gets DFA

Wedema
07-09-2013, 09:03 PM
Gimenez

Fastball23
07-09-2013, 09:04 PM
This would be a perect time to trade Rios.

SBSoxFan
07-09-2013, 10:03 PM
How about Danks - John not Jordan?

Will the Sox move forward with 4 lefties in the starting rotation?

PorkChopExpress
07-10-2013, 08:41 AM
Viciedo.

beasly213
07-10-2013, 09:14 AM
Ramirez will be traded first

voodoochile
07-10-2013, 09:26 AM
Peavy.

RCWHITESOX
07-10-2013, 12:15 PM
Reed

Tragg
07-10-2013, 01:42 PM
How about Danks - John not Jordan?

Will the Sox move forward with 4 lefties in the starting rotation?

Salary is too high to move Danks and get a good return. I think we need to move one of the lefties, though, and any of them should bring a good return. I'd look to Quintana. He's the most consistent, he isn't Sale, and he's cheap.

insp
07-11-2013, 03:34 AM
I can't wait to see the firesale start. My prediction it will be Jeff Keppinger.


Are you not aware that in a "firesale" the seller receives less than the maximum value? Instead of a fire sale, why not wish for no more than one or two trades for maximal value?

MarksBrokenFoot
07-11-2013, 07:21 AM
I don't understand why anybody cares about the 4 lefties situation. 3 of them have an era under 4. I don't care if our starters pitch with their feet, if they keep their era under 4, they are welcome to stay.

Frater Perdurabo
07-11-2013, 07:31 AM
Are you not aware that in a "firesale" the seller receives less than the maximum value? Instead of a fire sale, why not wish for no more than one or two trades for maximal value?

Why not wish for maximum return for every veteran dealt?

Paulwny
07-11-2013, 11:06 AM
I don't understand why anybody cares about the 4 lefties situation. 3 of them have an era under 4. I don't care if our starters pitch with their feet, if they keep their era under 4, they are welcome to stay.


Agree, if a pitcher is able to get batters out that should be the only thing that matters,.

russ99
07-11-2013, 11:49 AM
In order:

1. Thornton- he is healthy.
2. Lindstrom- take longer because he is worth haggling over.
3. Rios- another guy who should fetch something.
4. Keppinger- please.
5. Alexei- its time.
6. Crain- when he is off the dL.
7. Peavy- see above.
8. Dunn....desperate times calls for desperate moves by a contender.

Nobody is going to take Dunn, at least not until this time next year when his remaining salary wouldn't be hard to swallow.

Replace him with Viciedo. Someone else can pay top dollar for power potential, a good arm in LF and little else, and give us a quality prospect in or two in return.

#1swisher
07-11-2013, 12:06 PM
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DSpivack
07-11-2013, 12:08 PM
Nobody is going to take Dunn, at least not until this time next year when his remaining salary wouldn't be hard to swallow.

Replace him with Viciedo. Someone else can pay top dollar for power potential, a good arm in LF and little else, and give us a quality prospect in or two in return.

Viciedo sucks. I'll be surprised if he's in the majors next year, anywhere.

TDog
07-11-2013, 12:24 PM
Are you not aware that in a "firesale" the seller receives less than the maximum value? Instead of a fire sale, why not wish for no more than one or two trades for maximal value?

Many sports journalists lack the language skills that other communications job demand (note how teams down 2-0 or 3-0 in a best of 5 or 7 series can be "literally looking down the barrel of a loaded gun" when the consequences of losing rarely involves ballistics). The term "fire sale" was coined by sports journalists to apply to teams dumping veterans for prospects to improve their team and repeated by sports journalists who didn't take time to understand what the term meant. It gets repeated often enough and picked up by fans who don't take the time to understand what words actually mean (i.e., a UFO is an unidentified flying object, mostly likely not an extraterrestrial space craft). The same thing happened with the old abbreviation for no-hit-no run games to the point where people commonly refer to non-shutout no-hitters as no-nos, thinking that it's a cute and informal abbreviation.

If it were a true fire sale, a retail term applying to huge discounts on smoke-damaged merchandise and merchandise that must be moved immediately for lack of storage space, fans would not welcome it. They want to see other teams overpay for the flawed players and they don't want the players that could still help the team dumped for lesser talent.

If the White Sox are trying to improve their team, they wouldn't trade any starting pitching. They wouldn't trade anyone performing at a high level, vastly over-performing a salary with the team controlling them for at least a couple more years. That is, you don't want to see Sale traded for someone who possibly could be Sale in 1-3 years in return. Sale is not a drain on the team payroll. He is not headed into free agency. And if you get a future Sale in return, He is probably going to get injured anyway, or at least that's what some say. I don't see Peavy bringing much anyway considering his continued injury issues.

You shouldn't want to trade any of your young relievers who appear to have potential unless they are part of a package. For contending teams trying dealing prospects to improve in the here and now, young relief pitchers tend to have little trade value, especially at deadline. Reed has had as many problems this year as closers for contenders that some commentators believe are in need of a closer upgrade. Giving up 5 runs while protecting a 5-run extra-inning lead as the last reliever in the bullpen looms large in his legend. If you're going by his stuff and potential, Jones has better stuff, although this season has brought Jones's potential in question. Reed isn't a salary dump, he isn't bound for free agency and he isn't going to bring back much in return.

The one intriguing exception to the above might be Santiago, although I don't know what he might bring in return.

Thornton and Crain seem likely to be traded. Dunn is a real possibility because he is hitting at a higher level than he has since coming to the White Sox, and he has been playing in the field, although not terribly well. He could even be dumped on waivers the way the White Sox dumped Rios. Rios might demand more, but Rios has contract issues similar to Dunn, and he is performing at a higher level. I wouldn't want to see Dunn or Rios traded if the White Sox were picking up either salary.

The same applies for Keppinger, a free-agent signing that seemed strong in the off-season. The White Sox offered Keppinger more than other teams did in the off-season. His value has not increased. Maybe the Giants, who are in need of offense while facing injury issues, might want him back. They traded for Keppinger at the trade deadline a couple of years ago for a minor league relief pitcher who doesn't appear to have been called up by the Astros yet.

There could be more trades. There could be a lot of trades. But it could turn out to be trades that more closely match the fire-sale metaphor, leaving fans more angry and alienated that the play of the White Sox in the first half of the season.

TheVulture
07-11-2013, 02:23 PM
The same applies for Keppinger, a free-agent signing that seemed strong in the off-season. The White Sox offered Keppinger more than other teams did in the off-season. His value has not increased. Maybe the Giants, who are in need of offense while facing injury issues, might want him back.

You're thinking of Gillaspie, Keppinger came from the Rays.

DSpivack
07-11-2013, 02:31 PM
You're thinking of Gillaspie, Keppinger came from the Rays.

No, he's not. Keppinger was a July 2011 acquisition for the Giants, then he signed with Tampa before 2012.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/keppije01.shtml

MountainCur
07-30-2013, 01:40 PM
Seems like all the trade talk has died except for Peavy.

I really thought we coulld get something for Rios and maybe even Alexei.

Guess there is still a shot given that I was not hearing much chatter about Crain until a deal was (sort of) done.

MountainCur
07-30-2013, 02:12 PM
of course right after i post this i read that the pirates are very close to taking rios if the sox can cover a good deal of salary.

35th and Shields
07-30-2013, 02:12 PM
Seems like all the trade talk has died except for Peavy.

I really thought we coulld get something for Rios and maybe even Alexei.

Guess there is still a shot given that I was not hearing much chatter about Crain until a deal was (sort of) done.

Check out What's The Score. Things are starting to heat up for Rios and others.