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Lip Man 1
05-19-2013, 12:46 PM
Is being given the lifetime achievement award from the Chicago Sports Hall of Fame this September. Talks about the Chicago sports-talk radio scene. Brings up many of the same points I've seen posters comment on here at WSI:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/20181411-419/mcgrath-chet-coppock-still-within-broadcast-range.html

Here is my interview with him where he discusses a lot, the sports-talk radio genre:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=11&id=3585

Lip

Brian26
05-19-2013, 02:48 PM
I could not agree with him more on his rundown of local radio and tv. He's correct. How a guy like Laurence Holmes is on television in a market like Chicago in unbelievable. 20 years ago, Holmes would be lucky to have a job in Evansville, Indiana.

Lip Man 1
05-19-2013, 03:08 PM
I could not agree with him more on his rundown of local radio and tv. He's correct. How a guy like Laurence Holmes is on television in a market like Chicago in unbelievable. 20 years ago, Holmes would be lucky to have a job in Evansville, Indiana.

Brian:

This is not meant to be a political comment so I hope no one takes it as such, just a comment on the reality of the situation as opposed to say 35 years ago when I started. (and even then it was coming into play...)

Ethnic diversity as well as sexual diversity plays a big part in shaping who gets hired, who gets on the air today. For good or bad that's the way it is. I've always strongly believed the most talented people should get the media jobs...period. If that means they are all female... so be it, all Hispanic...so be it, all male caucasians...so be it. I don't care...I want the best people because as an owner of a station I'd figure the most talented people will bring me more listeners...more viewers. That will bring in more advertisers...which means more money for me.

I agree, you see in all markets individuals who have trouble speaking clearly, writing, putting coherent thoughts together and you ask yourself how in the world are they in radio? in TV??

That's part of the reason why. Not saying if that attitude is good or bad, simply telling you that's the way it is.

In 1975 at the national association of broadcasters convention Walter Cronkite, the key note speaker, ripped apart his medium for doing some of the issues that have come into play today. In fact he went farther than that blistering the medium for hiring people on the basis of looks as well in addition to as he put it, "telling people what they want to hear" from a news stand point instead of "telling them what they need to know."

Whenever this stuff comes up I immediately think of Sid Garcia who worked at WGN-TV in the late 80's, early 90's. He was flat out terrible. I'd watch him in Louisiana and think 'this guy is in the #3 market in the country?' He stumbled, he mumbled, he was scared to death on the air and because of that fear would, some shows, literally use the same catch phrase "check it out..." three or four times! in the same three or four minutes. It was comedically bad.

I actually wrote the WGN-TV news director expressing my thoughts on him. The news director wrote back and said (paraphrasing) that Sid was hired in part because he scored the highest in audience recognition tests. When I read that I wrote the guy back again and said "the reason he scored the highest was because he's so bad folks remember it. Is that the reason you hire people...because they are bad??"

I never got a reply from the news director to that comment. LOL.

Lip

dickallen15
05-19-2013, 03:57 PM
Brian:

This is not meant to be a political comment so I hope no one takes it as such, just a comment on the reality of the situation as opposed to say 35 years ago when I started. (and even then it was coming into play...)

Ethnic diversity as well as sexual diversity plays a big part in shaping who gets hired, who gets on the air today. For good or bad that's the way it is. I've always strongly believed the most talented people should get the media jobs...period. If that means they are all female... so be it, all Hispanic...so be it, all male caucasians...so be it. I don't care...I want the best people because as an owner of a station I'd figure the most talented people will bring me more listeners...more viewers. That will bring in more advertisers...which means more money for me.

I agree, you see in all markets individuals who have trouble speaking clearly, writing, putting coherent thoughts together and you ask yourself how in the world are they in radio? in TV??

That's part of the reason why. Not saying if that attitude is good or bad, simply telling you that's the way it is.

In 1975 at the national association of broadcasters convention Walter Cronkite, the key note speaker, ripped apart his medium for doing some of the issues that have come into play today. In fact he went farther than that blistering the medium for hiring people on the basis of looks as well in addition to as he put it, "telling people what they want to hear" from a news stand point instead of "telling them what they need to know."

Whenever this stuff comes up I immediately think of Sid Garcia who worked at WGN-TV in the late 80's, early 90's. He was flat out terrible. I'd watch him in Louisiana and think 'this guy is in the #3 market in the country?' He stumbled, he mumbled, he was scared to death on the air and because of that fear would, some shows, literally use the same catch phrase "check it out..." three or four times! in the same three or four minutes. It was comedically bad.

I actually wrote the WGN-TV news director expressing my thoughts on him. The news director wrote back and said (paraphrasing) that Sid was hired in part because he scored the highest in audience recognition tests. When I read that I wrote the guy back again and said "the reason he scored the highest was because he's so bad folks remember it. Is that the reason you hire people...because they are bad??"

I never got a reply from the news director to that comment. LOL.

Lip

Sid Garcia actually reported on fights that were at least 10 years old and were broadcast on ESPN Classic as happening that day on his sports report.......twice.

Lip Man 1
05-19-2013, 04:34 PM
Sid Garcia actually reported on fights that were at least 10 years old and were broadcast on ESPN Classic as happening that day on his sports report.......twice.

Are you serious??????????????? :o::o::o::o::o:

Just found this by the way, it's hilarious:

http://www.noozebox.com/?p=4374

Lip

Viva Medias B's
05-19-2013, 05:16 PM
Are you serious??????????????? :o::o::o::o::o:

Just found this by the way, it's hilarious:

http://www.noozebox.com/?p=4374

Lip

He overrates Jon Kelly. He was horrible!

DSpivack
05-19-2013, 05:31 PM
Are you serious??????????????? :o::o::o::o::o:

Just found this by the way, it's hilarious:

http://www.noozebox.com/?p=4374

Lip

Giangreco #2? One of my least favorite Chicago media people. Smug, obnoxious, and often unprofessional. I can't stand him.

Noneck
05-19-2013, 06:04 PM
When I saw you interviewed Coppock, I was thinking it would be at least a 2 page interview, the way he can go on and on.

Good job again Lip.

Lip Man 1
05-19-2013, 07:02 PM
Noneck:

Actually the vast majority of the 60 or so interviews I've done are all at least five pages. I think Jack McDowell may hold the 'record'...we spoke for four hours on consecutive days.

Lip

Golden Sox
05-19-2013, 07:17 PM
Does Chet Coppock no longer have a full time Chicago radio job because of his age? Being 64 years old does not actually fit into the young demographics these stations are looking for today. Steve Dahl, Mike North and Chet Coppock were big time radio stars in Chicago at one time. It looks like their days of being stars in this market are over. I always thought Coppock leaving Chicago for New York hurt his career. He was at the top when he was here and was basically a Chicago guy. His Chicago act didn't go over in New York, and when he came back here he was basically forgotten about.

Noneck
05-19-2013, 07:30 PM
Lip,

I can just imagine the tangents BlackJack went off on.

slavko
05-19-2013, 08:04 PM
Giangreco #2? One of my least favorite Chicago media people. Smug, obnoxious, and often unprofessional. I can't stand him.

Nor I. But his qualities resemble Chet's qualities and that may have affected Chet's ratings. The piece is a discussion starter, that's all. He's right on for some and puzzling for others. And if he liked Jon Kelley so much he should have spelled his name right. Jon was clean-cut, professional and seemed to not understand the words he was reading.

Chet thinks his age is a problem all right. Why else would he get a face lift and a hair transplant? Too bad for Chet that he can't get a "refuses to take calls from listeners" transplant. That, IMO, is his main problem.

Lip Man 1
05-19-2013, 08:42 PM
Noneck:

Read Jack's interview yourself and decide:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=11&id=2085

Lip

Noneck
05-19-2013, 11:24 PM
Lip,

I have already read it and his blog, so thats why I mentioned what I did.

Brian26
05-20-2013, 12:20 AM
Chet thinks his age is a problem all right. Why else would he get a face lift and a hair transplant? Too bad for Chet that he can't get a "refuses to take calls from listeners" transplant. That, IMO, is his main problem.

Chet used to take calls. It wasn't the entire focus of his show, but he would definitely take calls. A young Brian26 called him a handful of times back in the day when he was on WMAQ. Chet also used to do "Friday Night Fights" where to callers would square off on a particular topic.

Lip Man 1
05-20-2013, 11:53 AM
Brian:

Correct. Chet would take some from time to time but not often. His focus was on guests providing information and at times breaking news.

Lip

SOXPHILE
05-20-2013, 02:15 PM
Nor I. But his qualities resemble Chet's qualities and that may have affected Chet's ratings. The piece is a discussion starter, that's all. He's right on for some and puzzling for others. And if he liked Jon Kelley so much he should have spelled his name right. Jon was clean-cut, professional and seemed to not understand the words he was reading.

Chet thinks his age is a problem all right. Why else would he get a face lift and a hair transplant? Too bad for Chet that he can't get a "refuses to take calls from listeners" transplant. That, IMO, is his main problem.


Pretty much this. He may be right or wrong on some of these thoughts, but it really doesn't matter. He hasn't been relevant in a while. He was, and still is a vain, arrogant, smug person, to put it nicely. He made some laundry list like this a couple years ago too about the radio and TV sports personalities. I remember him opining that one of the female anchors should be back home doing laundry, or something to that affect. This just looks to me like another "Hey, look at me ! I'm still here ! Pay attention to me !!!" ploy. Maybe him and Mike North can start a Webio show together. Oh, wait.......

bestkosher
05-21-2013, 04:19 PM
in the Trib story I love this quote, "Why is Dan Bernstein so hateful? In his heart of hearts, I think he wants to be Jay Mariotti." Either he is pandering to Hawk, or that sound bit that Boers and Bernstein play is a reflection of reality not mockery.

BainesHOF
05-22-2013, 09:08 PM
Always dug Chet. It's a crime he's not on the air.

Can anyone explain Mike Adamle? It's mindboggling he's been on TV in this market, or any market, for so long. He's the worst media member I've ever seen in Chicago by far.

RKMeibalane
05-22-2013, 09:33 PM
I could not agree with him more on his rundown of local radio and tv. He's correct. How a guy like Laurence Holmes is on television in a market like Chicago in unbelievable. 20 years ago, Holmes would be lucky to have a job in Evansville, Indiana.

Who the **** would want a job in Evansville, Indiana? I'm embarrassed to say that I was born there (which I had no control over, of course).

DSpivack
05-22-2013, 10:10 PM
Always dug Chet. It's a crime he's not on the air.

Can anyone explain Mike Adamle? It's mindboggling he's been on TV in this market, or any market, for so long. He's the worst media member I've ever seen in Chicago by far.

Adamle might not be the best in the business but he also strikes me as at least a halfway decent human being, unlike Giangreco or many on sports talk radio.

BainesHOF
05-24-2013, 08:38 PM
Adamle might not be the best in the business but he also strikes me as at least a halfway decent human being, unlike Giangreco or many on sports talk radio.

I don't know Adamle off the air so I can't say either way, but I vaguely recall a reported incident where he showed up to a station drunk and even did some damage.

ChicagoG19
05-25-2013, 12:42 AM
I could not agree with him more on his rundown of local radio and tv. He's correct. How a guy like Laurence Holmes is on television in a market like Chicago in unbelievable. 20 years ago, Holmes would be lucky to have a job in Evansville, Indiana.

I don't get the comment about Holmes. I really enjoy listening to him on the radio and I think he is okay on television. Is he doing something poorly on television that I am just missing?

WhiteSox5187
05-25-2013, 01:47 AM
I don't know Adamle off the air so I can't say either way, but I vaguely recall a reported incident where he showed up to a station drunk and even did some damage.

I don't know if you mean the time he was pulled over for a possible DUI and they later found out that he hadn't any alcohol but did have some sort of seizure disorder or something that contributed to his erratic driving.

gobears1987
05-25-2013, 10:15 AM
I could not agree with him more on his rundown of local radio and tv. He's correct. How a guy like Laurence Holmes is on television in a market like Chicago in unbelievable. 20 years ago, Holmes would be lucky to have a job in Evansville, Indiana.
The better question is how two morons like B&B are the afternoon show.

thomas35forever
05-25-2013, 03:20 PM
Had a run-in with Chet a few years ago when interviewing for an internship at Chicago Sports Webio before it went under. He asked a very personal question that I won't mention here, but let's just say I could make a case that would allow me to collect money from him.

MarySwiss
05-26-2013, 05:15 PM
pretty much this. He may be right or wrong on some of these thoughts, but it really doesn't matter. He hasn't been relevant in a while. he was, and still is a vain, arrogant, smug person, to put it nicely. he made some laundry list like this a couple years ago too about the radio and tv sports personalities. I remember him opining that one of the female anchors should be back home doing laundry, or something to that affect. This just looks to me like another "hey, look at me ! I'm still here ! Pay attention to me !!!" ploy. Maybe him and mike north can start a webio show together. Oh, wait.......

+1

sullythered
05-27-2013, 06:46 PM
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that I firmly disagree with Coppock on every one of his assessments. He is, was, and likely always will be an arrogant boob. Lawrence Holmes is more amiable, informed, and less buffoonish than that knucklehead Chet ever was.

Mr. Jinx
05-27-2013, 09:57 PM
Always dug Chet. It's a crime he's not on the air.

Can anyone explain Mike Adamle? It's mindboggling he's been on TV in this market, or any market, for so long. He's the worst media member I've ever seen in Chicago by far.

American Gladiators. It was ****ing awesome.

That's really all I've got.

SOXPHILE
05-28-2013, 12:11 AM
Larry Holmes is a phony. Phony tough guy. Phony ladies man. Phony friend and insider with Bears players like Lance Briggs. Annoying fake laugh/cackle. Tries too hard to emulate and kiss Dan Bernsteins ass. He belongs nowhere near tv or radio, especially in the 3rd largest market in the country. High school radio shows are better than anything he does.

ComiskeyBrewer
06-03-2013, 06:11 AM
Larry Holmes is a phony. Phony tough guy. Phony ladies man. Phony friend and insider with Bears players like Lance Briggs. Annoying fake laugh/cackle. Tries too hard to emulate and kiss Dan Bernsteins ass. He belongs nowhere near tv or radio, especially in the 3rd largest market in the country. High school radio shows are better than anything he does.

I've noticed a lot of the younger guys on the score are like that. I drive into work around 11pm, so i often hear Joe O, Conner McKnight and some of the other younger guys on. They often mock the listeners in a very Berstein manner. Just last night i heard jay zawaski break out into the "meatball bears fan" voice when talking to a guy about the Blackhawks. My guess is they see Bernstein has the prime afternoon slot, makes(what i assume is) good money and think "this is the way to the top here".

I actually think a lot of the younger guys are pretty talented, but when they start breaking out the BB show style stuff, i generally turn it off.