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MUsoxfan
01-14-2013, 05:56 PM
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8844122/interpreters-able-approach-mound-help-foreign-born-pitchers-sources-say


New balk rule. No more "fake to 3rd, throw to 1st"

Mr. Jinx
01-14-2013, 06:50 PM
But what will fans boo now??

amsteel
01-14-2013, 07:32 PM
But what will fans boo now??

In Washington? Everything.

TDog
01-14-2013, 07:39 PM
I don't believe the fake-to-third-throw-to-first will be considered a balk if the pitcher is not in contact with the rubber because if you're not on the rubber, you're even allowed to fake to first or second. I don't know how the play ever became legal for pitchers who were in contact with the rubber, but sometime in the 1970s or '80s, umpires stopped calling balks on the play.

Bucky F. Dent
01-14-2013, 07:45 PM
But what will fans boo now??

The opposing pitcher throwing over two first.

Foulke You
01-16-2013, 12:02 PM
But what will fans boo now??
Don't forget intentional walks

cub killer
01-16-2013, 04:18 PM
Talking intricacies of the game such as balk rules, make me miss it more.

Only 1 more month till P&C report! And the WBC shortly after that! :bandance:

SaltyPretzel
01-16-2013, 04:41 PM
But what will fans boo now??

:walkoff:

voodoochile
01-27-2013, 09:17 PM
This sucks...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/rule-change-third-first-fake-pickoff-move-now-033809715--mlb.html

TheVulture
01-27-2013, 10:18 PM
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it's not just the 3rd to 1st move, but any fake throw to third by the pitcher. This seems like a horrible idea to me. Fake pickoffs to third are a part of the game for a reason, runners are going to be running wild in first and third situations. The pitcher is already at a disadvantage having to hold two runners from advancing.

DSpivack
01-27-2013, 10:26 PM
Mark Grace's reaction, "Damn you, Sean Lowe!"

34rancher
01-30-2013, 06:57 AM
Maybe it's me getting old, but whenever I see this move done, I think of Blackjack. He seemed pretty good at it.
So basically if you're a runner at first, as soon as the arm motion goes to third, take off for second? Seems to me this will reward teams with speed and aggressive base running. Sounds like a good fundamental to practice in spring training.

johnnyg83
01-31-2013, 06:30 PM
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it's not just the 3rd to 1st move, but any fake throw to third by the pitcher. This seems like a horrible idea to me. Fake pickoffs to third are a part of the game for a reason, runners are going to be running wild in first and third situations. The pitcher is already at a disadvantage having to hold two runners from advancing.

I am in full agreement.

Falstaff
02-05-2013, 02:43 AM
I am in full agreement.
There they go watering down the game again to the detriment of pitching, anything to pump the scoring now that PEDs on the way out. Honestly I wish they'd put the height of the mound back up where should be too. That fake 3rd pick off is thriller when it works. Once I was pitching,pulled that move, but the 1st baseman was fooled and was not expecting the throw to come to him, 2 runs scored, oh no. So it has its risks too.

WhiteSox5187
02-05-2013, 02:56 AM
I was watching Dan Pleasac and someone else discuss this on MLB Network a few weeks ago and Pleasac pointed out that prior to 1986ish the fake to third go to first move WAS a balk, so this isn't that big of a rule change.

Nellie_Fox
02-05-2013, 12:14 PM
I was watching Dan Pleasac and someone else discuss this on MLB Network a few weeks ago and Pleasac pointed out that prior to 1986ish the fake to third go to first move WAS a balk, so this isn't that big of a rule change.I'm not sure he's correct. I remember when Drysdale was doing Sox games, whenever somebody would try it, he'd say "that hasn't worked since the big flood" so it was apparently legal when Drysdale was with the Sox (82-87)

Chez
02-05-2013, 12:38 PM
I was watching Dan Pleasac and someone else discuss this on MLB Network a few weeks ago and Pleasac pointed out that prior to 1986ish the fake to third go to first move WAS a balk, so this isn't that big of a rule change.

Didn't Rick Sutcliffe use this move multiple times per start back in 1984? I think it's been legal for a long time.