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Lip Man 1
01-14-2013, 09:24 AM
To the WBC.

Santiago leaning against it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0114-white-sox-chicago--20130114,0,3754866.story

Good. The Sox don't need the issues with their rotation. (or with anybody else for that matter on the roster...)

Lip

Foulke You
01-14-2013, 09:51 AM
To the WBC.

Santiago leaning against it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0114-white-sox-chicago--20130114,0,3754866.story

Good. The Sox don't need the issues with their rotation. (or with anybody else for that matter on the roster...)

Lip
Agreed Lip. I cringe whenever an important Sox player participates in the WBC. I was not pleased to read that Jesse Crain will be pitching for team Canada. It is especially troubling when you consider that Crain struggled with health issues last season. I hope there aren't many more Sox players in it:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130112&content_id=40942584&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

russ99
01-14-2013, 10:00 AM
Good deal.

Can't believe that more players can't get how useless Bud's World Baseball Craptacular is, and how it can affect their overall health in the season to follow.

SephClone89
01-14-2013, 10:02 AM
Good deal.

Can't believe that more players can't get how useless Bud's World Baseball Craptacular is, and how it can affect their overall health in the season to follow.

1) I like the WBC and wish more big leaguers would take it seriously, though considering Sale's case I'm fine that he's not participating.
2) Is there quantitative data to support this?

Noneck
01-14-2013, 10:06 AM
I dont have a problem with position players playing in this but pitchers are a no no in my book.

moochpuppy
01-14-2013, 10:06 AM
I wish they would move the WBC to after the season but that will never happen since they would be competing against the NFL.

DumpJerry
01-14-2013, 10:18 AM
Good deal.

Can't believe that more players can't get how useless Bud's World Baseball Craptacular is, and how it can affect their overall health in the season to follow.
So, do you know for a fact that it has not increased the interest in Baseball in other countries? That's the main purpose of the WBC, after all.

My only grips with it is how is messes up the MLB post season schedule with the World Series coming after the first snowfall in some cities.

doublem23
01-14-2013, 10:26 AM
My only grips with it is how is messes up the MLB post season schedule with the World Series coming after the first snowfall in some cities.

They've fully integrated the WBC schedule to work with the MLB schedule now, haven't they? The MLB regular season ends on September 29 this year, which is about the same as normal.

amsteel
01-14-2013, 10:57 AM
Because throwing 70 pitches in a WBC game is different than throwing 70 in a ST game.

beasly213
01-14-2013, 11:20 AM
Because throwing 70 pitches in a WBC game is different than throwing 70 in a ST game.

I would say it is. The games have a lot more intensity than a lazy spring training game where guys sometimes only throw 1 or 2 types of pitches their whole outing. They might be working on command or location where as in these WBC games pitchers are actually trying to get outs as they would in a regular game.

Bucky F. Dent
01-14-2013, 11:28 AM
Thank goodness.

TDog
01-14-2013, 11:47 AM
1) I like the WBC and wish more big leaguers would take it seriously, though considering Sale's case I'm fine that he's not participating.
2) Is there quantitative data to support this?

I too like the WBC. I like the idea of an international baseball competition. I haven't made up my mind yet whether I'll see any games in San Francisco, though.

At the same time, I have no problem with White Sox players not participating, not becuse I believe the competition will render them less effective, but becuase there is always a chance that something could go wrong. There's always that chance, whether it's baseball or tarp sliding or whatever. Pete Ward became a lesser player after riding in a car.

Really, I don't know that participating in the WBC puts players, especially pitchers at a greater risk of performing well in the season than playing deep into the previous postseason.

russ99
01-14-2013, 11:51 AM
So, do you know for a fact that it has not increased the interest in Baseball in other countries? That's the main purpose of the WBC, after all.

Riiight... And it has nothing to do with all the TV money and marketing and memorabilia sales that go along with it. The idea of Bud doing anything altruistic is pretty naive.

Falstaff
01-14-2013, 12:14 PM
I too like the WBC. I like the idea of an international baseball competition. I haven't made up my mind yet whether I'll see any games in San Francisco, though.

At the same time, I have no problem with White Sox players not participating, not becuse I believe the competition will render them less effective, but becuase there is always a chance that something could go wrong. There's always that chance, whether it's baseball or tarp sliding or whatever. Pete Ward became a lesser player after riding in a car.

Really, I don't know that participating in the WBC puts players, especially pitchers at a greater risk of performing well in the season than playing deep into the previous postseason.

Ask Mike Sirotka about that. Dude did not get proper rest following 2000 season pitched winter ball and his arm (torn labrum) just about fell off, no more MLB career. Bet he like to have those 70 pitches back!

Lip Man 1
01-14-2013, 12:46 PM
Falstaff:

Mike actually hurt the arm originally the last week of the regular season (against Boston I think) then got the OK from team doctors to participate in the series in Japan where he hurt it again.

Lip

DumpJerry
01-14-2013, 12:47 PM
Riiight... And it has nothing to do with all the TV money and marketing and memorabilia sales that go along with it. The idea of Bud doing anything altruistic is pretty naive.
I'm sorry, where did I say Bud was being altruistic? Do you know the meaning of the word?

He's expanding the market for MLB through the WBC.

thomas35forever
01-14-2013, 03:30 PM
Way to go, Chris. That thing is a joke anyway. Plus, given your arm issues in the past, you don't need one more way to jeopardize your health.

mzh
01-14-2013, 06:19 PM
Way to go, Chris. That thing is a joke anyway. Plus, given your arm issues in the past, you don't need one more way to jeopardize your health.
Why is this such a common misconception? Sale has literally never had any arm troubles in his college or professional career thus far, other than what ended up being routine soreness back in May. I suppose the concern about his delivery having the potential for injury has been beaten so thoroughly that we forget that he's rarely been anything but healthy.

DumpJerry
01-14-2013, 07:16 PM
Why is this such a common misconception? Sale has literally never had any arm troubles in his college or professional career thus far, other than what ended up being routine soreness back in May. I suppose the concern about his delivery having the potential for injury has been beaten so thoroughly that we forget that he's rarely been anything but healthy.
The WSI medical staff is the most knowledgeable of its type anywhere in the world of professional sports.

Lip Man 1
01-17-2013, 06:10 PM
Only two Sox name players on WBC rosters, Rios (PR) and Crain (Canada).

Overall not that bad.

Lip

DonnieDarko
01-17-2013, 07:02 PM
I was actually kinda hoping that he'd compete in the WBC.

Oh well, there's always 2017.

DumpJerry
01-17-2013, 09:55 PM
Only two Sox name players on WBC rosters, Rios (PR) and Crain (Canada).

Overall not that bad.

Lip
The email the Sox sent out tonight said there are five Sox players in the WBC: Rios, Andy Gonzalez, Santiago (all Puerto Rico), Crain (Canada), and Andre Rienzo (Brazil).

doublem23
01-17-2013, 10:34 PM
The email the Sox sent out tonight said there are five Sox players in the WBC: Rios, Andy Gonzalez, Santiago (all Puerto Rico), Crain (Canada), and Andre Rienzo (Brazil).

Hope they eventually get the Brazilian jerseys on MLB Shop because I would definitely buy a Rienzo one.

shingo10
01-17-2013, 11:15 PM
The email the Sox sent out tonight said there are five Sox players in the WBC: Rios, Andy Gonzalez, Santiago (all Puerto Rico), Crain (Canada), and Andre Rienzo (Brazil).


Andy Gonzalez? The same one who made 3 errors in one inning? Hmm. Missed his return.

doublem23
01-17-2013, 11:44 PM
Andy Gonzalez? The same one who made 3 errors in one inning? Hmm. Missed his return.

He signed as a minor league free agent on December 21

Lip Man 1
01-18-2013, 01:01 AM
Dump:

I don't consider Gonzales and the kid from Brazil a meaningful contributor this year and Santiago in the Tribune story said he is still leaning towards saying, 'no' to Puerto Rico.

Lip

aryzner
01-18-2013, 07:31 AM
Andy Gonzalez

I know he will have nothing to do with the big league club this year but just the very mention of this name makes me

:bundy

doublem23
01-24-2013, 07:55 AM
Santiago officially declines the WBC, staying in Glendale to focus on earning a spot in the starting rotation if John Danks is not ready to roll by Opening Day

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/post/_/id/13119/santiago-takes-a-pass-on-wbc

Lip Man 1
01-24-2013, 11:15 AM
Very good news.

Lip

thomas35forever
01-24-2013, 01:49 PM
What to say except Hector's got his head on straight?

Risk
01-24-2013, 04:54 PM
I know he will have nothing to do with the big league club this year but just the very mention of this name makes me

:bundy

Andy Gonzalez is the worst MLB player I have ever had the misfortune of watching in person.

Risk